Micro 273: There is Trouble in Paradise (Game Over)

Citizen M · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:52 pm

What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.

Citizen M · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:52 pm

In post 247, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 581, Tarhalindur wrote: <12> Don't drink and post, lest ye receive Public Humilitation.

That is not in my rule set.... As long as everyone plays nicely and does not do personal attacks or other things that may cause issues, I am fine with a bit of frivolity.

Thanks Rach!

Kagami · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:55 pm

@Rach: Even in Tar's games, the rule was just a joke. He would just add a mod message saying "Public Humiliation!" to posts that refer to the poster drinking.

Thanks for clarification, that game was well before my time, and I was not familiar with it, will take a closer look when I have time, looks like it was a fun game.

Kagami · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:59 pm

In post 250, Citizen M wrote:What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.

I do believe that meta stats are valuable, but I'm not going to go crazy until everyone has posted enough to be worth analyzing. In any case, Wisdom is the only person I could expect a high level of accuracy on using the analytical approach I've been working on. Nobody else here has enough games.

Kagami · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:00 pm

That game was even more well before my time and kaze's as well. I'm surprised he knew about it.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:01 pm

In post 250, Citizen M wrote:What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.

Last I checked, Kagami isn't a robot.

I could be wrong about that, possibly. The point is that this angle is bad. Reminds me of people jumping on fferyllt whenever she doesn't metadive people immediately. It's null.

Didn't you say not long ago that you don't meta? Now you're using it?

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:02 pm

In post 254, Kagami wrote:That game was even more well before my time and kaze's as well. I'm surprised he knew about it.

I like to read.

Citizen M · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:04 pm

In post 255, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 250, Citizen M wrote:What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.
Last I checked, Kagami isn't a robot.

post 390 this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=375

Citizen M · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:06 pm

i was in that game which is why i know about it, lol

YellowKingValley · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:51 pm

Delta lurked while the wagon is on him... hmm... not planning to defend himself? Did he plan to lurk the wagon off?

I think Jason is intentionally lurking.

Katarina LeBlanc · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:53 pm

Delta backed off immediately and parroted me once I stepped in. Cute.

Wisdom · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:57 pm

In post 260, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Delta backed off immediately and parroted me once I stepped in. Cute.

And you saw that just now..?

YellowKingValley · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:57 pm

In post 202, Wisdom wrote:As scum, the best thing to do is either comment on such a wagon in a townish way to leave a first good impression, many times even join it in order to look like you are helping gathering information (therefore you are being pro-town). Not every scum is skilled enough to know that though, so sometimes scum will just avoid the wagons altogether, as to avoid leaving telling reactions. The thing is that doing that is a telling reaction in itself.

Of course, there is always the chance that a townie will also ignore the wagon and just do what someone is supposed to do in RVS - random vote. Which is why you cannot be completely sure someone is scum just from that and you need to further explore such a player. But it's a place to start.

Please tell me how to react to a wagon as town so that I don't make a mistake and get lynched. Thanks.

Wisdom · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:00 pm

Nah, I like you being lynchbait. You've won me two scumgames. <3

Wisdom · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:02 pm

Anyway, I don't like Citizen either. But his play could be just a fucked up way to play town, so eh.

YellowKingValley · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:06 pm

In post 263, Wisdom wrote:Nah, I like you being lynchbait. You've won me two scumgames. <3

I'm carefully building my reputation as a lynch bait so that I will never be killed at night. And apparently they don't really policy lynch here. Fufufu.

Alright stop dodging. Anyway I'll get an answer from you later. When you are L-1.

Citizen M · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:06 pm

In post 264, Wisdom wrote:Anyway, I don't like Citizen either. But his play could be just a fucked up way to play town, so eh.

You don't like me because you're my top scumread.

I have done nothing scummy in this game

you are scum

vote: Wisdom

YellowKingValley · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:07 pm

In post 261, Wisdom wrote:
In post 260, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:Delta backed off immediately and parroted me once I stepped in. Cute.
And you saw that just now..?

Her post is weed-motivated.

YellowKingValley · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:08 pm

In post 266, Citizen M wrote:I have done nothing
scummy
in this game

Citizen M · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:08 pm

Wisdom · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:08 pm

Citizen M wrote: I have done nothing scummy in this game

You are in no position to judge whether you appear scummy or not to others. Trust me, you do.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:21 pm

In post 265, YellowKingValley wrote: Alright stop dodging. Anyway I'll get an answer from you later. When you are L-1.

I likely won't be participating in such a wagon. Good luck with that, though.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:21 pm

In post 266, Citizen M wrote: You don't like me because you're my top scumread.

I have done nothing scummy in this game

you are scum

vote: Wisdom

You must still be drunk.

Wisdom · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:23 pm

Kaze what do you think about Citizen?

JasonWazza · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:25 pm

In post 259, YellowKingValley wrote: I think Jason is intentionally lurking.

And why do you think this exactly?

And even if i am, does that mean anything to my alignment?

Citizen M wrote:
In post 255, Kazekirimaru wrote:
In post 250, Citizen M wrote:What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.
Last I checked, Kagami isn't a robot.

post 390 this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=375

I can back this up, a quick ISO of her will show how meta based she is.

Kagami wrote:
In post 250, Citizen M wrote:What?? Isn't Mini 622 just some random game??

What bugs me is Kagami hasn't been relying on statistics in this game. Kagami is a crazy person who believe that meta stats is the key to finding scum. Nothing of that this game.
I do believe that meta stats are valuable, but I'm not going to go crazy until everyone has posted enough to be worth analyzing. In any case, Wisdom is the only person I could expect a high level of accuracy on using the analytical approach I've been working on. Nobody else here has enough games.

... really?

You seemed fine meta diving me last game so what's the difference here?

The only explanation i had, was that you actually considered what we said post game, but with this i have to think there is another motive behind you not metadiving out the ass.

VOTE: Kagami