Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[Natirasha]

Yes, the players I target cannot be roleblocked. I was on Pie nights 1-3 and last night I was on Pyro.

[Titus]

I played a scum 1-shot dayvig
Subject: Mini 1419: First Time Mafia (Game over!)

Welcome to

Mini 1419: First Time Mafia

, PeregrineV!

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You are a

Mafia Day 1 Dayvig

.

You have the following special abilities:
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Converse

: When allowed, you may speak with the other members of your faction in your private QuickTopic.
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Kill

: During the Night, any one member of your faction may target a player with this ability to kill them.
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Daykill

: During Day 1 only, you may target any one player to kill them by posting

Daykill: <player>

in thread. You may not use this ability if the battery deadline is below 50%. If successful, the votecount will be reset.

Your Win Condition is as follows:
>>> You win if at least one

Mafia aligned

player is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

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You must confirm by replying to this PM.

The game thread is here. Good luck, and have fun!

That game was deliberately ridiculous roles. Everyone was town power. Dayvig was required for balance.

Here we have enough suitless people to where giving scum a dayvig is damn near gamebreaking.

The mod hasn't put deliberately ridiculous roles in this, and I doubt he's going for gamebreaking.

[Pyrotechnics]

This is a bus post!

mod I fucked up my bold tAgs before, but I'm v/la until the 23rd.

Not mu h new to say.

Town: nat. Kanye

Pro Stowe: Titus, beli, prrev

If one is scum the other is town: etl/ Levi (not sold on Sakura town thing though)

That leaves agar, Td & nacho.

Lets lynch nacho.

[AGar]

Nati is a roleblock preventer. So what? NAR has Nati dead.

Scum target Nati.
Scum block Pyro.
Pyro protects Nati.
Nati protects Pyro.

Step 1 resolve actions that are not impacted by others.

Here, that's kill on Nati. Nati's dead. Then Pyro tries to protect but can't because he's blocked.

I know NAR. Kills don't resolve first in NAR.

That game was deliberately ridiculous roles. Everyone was town power. Dayvig was required for balance.

Here we have enough suitless people to where giving scum a dayvig is damn near gamebreaking.


The mod hasn't put deliberately ridiculous roles in this, and I doubt he's going for gamebreaking.

Vanilla-less isn't "ridiculous roles." Nothing in that setup was way out of the ordinary.

We had a JOAT that refreshed shots and had a vanilla-izer shot.

You're claiming an "anytime vig," which is - imo - more ridiculous of a stretch than a 1-shot dayvig.

Also, your explanations are getting to the point of ridiculousness. Occam's razor. Nothing you provide is simple and straightforward. Everything you pull out to justify the game's happenings or what you've done require ridiculously unique sets of coincidental circumstances. I'm not buying that SO many coincidences have occurred.

[Titus]

Anytime vig is not ridiculous if I am town. My explanation IS simple. Yours is bordering on ridiculousness. As town, I'm straightforward and say what I do and why I do it. Nothing's changed. Your explanation requires a lot of assumptions, guesswork and innuendo. Occam's Razor favors me.

[Titus]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29725

That game had an anytime vig. Mine just has a limitation.

[TiphaineDeath]

Goddammit titus, stop being so scummy when I think you're town :/.

[PeregrineV]

@TD

- Go ISO Sakura, Levi, and Especially, then come back and report.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

hi

[PeregrineV]

You mean beyond quoting your entire posts?

Your logic:

a) Concludes Titus knew Stal was a doc (which he wasn't).

Scum motivation for pointing out thinking a doc exists and then not shooting it.

b) That scum would find a doc in a slot that was pretty possible lynchbait or a possible target for Pie's shot as a valuable target.

The slot has had 4 players, there has never been more than 2 votes on him at a time. Why would you think he's lynchbait?

c) That because one player wasn't able to dictate a scumkill, that confirms him as town.

Who is this referring to?

Also, why are you not voting Levi? (373)

[Titus]

This is a bus post!

mod I fucked up my bold tAgs before, but I'm v/la until the 23rd.

Not mu h new to say.

Town: nat. Kanye

Pro Stowe: Titus, beli, prrev

If one is scum the other is town: etl/ Levi (not sold on Sakura town thing though)

That leaves agar, Td & nacho.

Lets lynch nacho.

I doubt you are claiming scum here Pyro? What is a bus post?

[PeregrineV]

This is a bus post!

mod I fucked up my bold tAgs before, but I'm v/la until the 23rd.

Not mu h new to say.

Town: nat. Kanye

Pro Stowe: Titus, beli, prrev

If one is scum the other is town: etl/ Levi (not sold on Sakura town thing though)

That leaves agar, Td & nacho.

Lets lynch nacho.

I doubt you are claiming scum here Pyro? What is a bus post?

Phone post while riding the bus?

[Pyrotechnics]

Pere has it. I was on the bus on my way to the airport.

[Titus]

Have fun on your trip. Will you be vla?

Etl, care to comment on anything that has happened?

TD, I look scummy as town, especially when I think I am conftown. Look at Death's Diner. It took me attaching a bomb to your back and I still was pushed as scum for awhile. I am lynchbait but I work on it.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Titus not sure what to say. Hard for me to read most of these people. I looked over kanye's iso and i like it better than i did before so i'm sheeping him for now until either i die or the playerlist is shorter. I also am completely unfamiliar witg the theme so when you guys talk about theme stuff i'm lost.

[Titus]

Titus not sure what to say. Hard for me to read most of these people. I looked over kanye's iso and i like it better than i did before so i'm sheeping him for now until either i die or the playerlist is shorter. I also am completely unfamiliar witg the theme so when you guys talk about theme stuff i'm lost.

I admit I am lost, so I am sheeping Beli regarding flavor to see if the links are plausible. The notmafia might be linked to each other but that would be gamebreaking.

I am linked with Empking. I think my dayshot reset his abilities.
Pyro is linked with Pie.
Talah is linked with Majiffy.
Etl and Levi are linked.

Of course, this goes against my Levi Nacho Kanye scumteam which seems obvious to me.

[kanyeknowsbest]

tammy at least nacho has the decency to acknowledge that hes caught scum, we can clean him up tomorrow. titus on the other hand has been aggressively scummy and seriously needs to get lynched. can you reconcile what i pointed out in these posts

I had one day kill. The rest are at night. I shot Talah. I have one more.

We already have one fake vig (Pie) claiming vig when not is suicidal.

ETL, I didn't push Kanye because PIE NEEDED TO DIE!

reminder that titus believed all game long that pie needed to be dead and never tried to shoot him. reminder that titus has been harping about dividing the town over the pie issue and presented herself as trying to mediate between the two sides and never tried to shoot him. reminder that titus is fucking scum and needs to die.

did everyone forget that titus spent pages and pages goin "lets compromise guys lets just make this work out lol im not trying to push any agenda here" when the entire time she had the power to just go "nope im forcing yall to get along" if she really wanted to.

can yiou see the disconnect between stated intent and actual intent here ? i hiope you can : ]

cus lijke that shit is as solid scum as it gets for me short of bungling a fakeclaim or outright claiming scum.

[kanyeknowsbest]

Goddammit titus, stop being so scummy when I think you're town :/.

can you explain to me the various reasons why you think titus is town that do not rely on "there has never been a scum dayvig in the history of all mafia games ever played in the world"

[Titus]

tammy at least nacho has the decency to acknowledge that hes caught scum, we can clean him up tomorrow. titus on the other hand has been aggressively scummy and seriously needs to get lynched. can you reconcile what i pointed out in these posts

I had one day kill. The rest are at night. I shot Talah. I have one more.

We already have one fake vig (Pie) claiming vig when not is suicidal.

ETL, I didn't push Kanye because PIE NEEDED TO DIE!

reminder that titus believed all game long that pie needed to be dead and never tried to shoot him. reminder that titus has been harping about dividing the town over the pie issue and presented herself as trying to mediate between the two sides and never tried to shoot him. reminder that titus is fucking scum and needs to die.

did everyone forget that titus spent pages and pages goin "lets compromise guys lets just make this work out lol im not trying to push any agenda here" when the entire time she had the power to just go "nope im forcing yall to get along" if she really wanted to.

can yiou see the disconnect between stated intent and actual intent here ? i hiope you can : ]

cus lijke that shit is as solid scum as it gets for me short of bungling a fakeclaim or outright claiming scum.

So basically because I am not a prick and desire group consensus and follow group consensus, I must be scum. Good to know that vigs must

[Titus]

*vigs must be assholes.

[TiphaineDeath]

No, I can't. VOTE: titus.

[Titus]

Really TD, you think this is my scum game? We are hosed if I am lynched. I highlight the scum team and they've planned a perfect mislynch. Take out anyone who would know I am town and run circles around anyone else.

Majiffy would be yelling I am town. Who dies, Majiffy... Big shock.

Kanye should be dead if I was scum. There is no simple narrative for me being scum. None.

[Kdub]

Day 5 - Vote Count #16

kanyeknowsbest (1)

- Titus

Belisarius (0)

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AGar (0)

-

PeregrineV (0)

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leviathan93 (3)

- Belisarius, PeregrineV, NachoKoopa

TiphaineDeath (0)

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Pyrotechnics (0)

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EspeciallyTheLies (0)

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NachoKoopa (2)

- Pyrotechnics, EspeciallyTheLies

Natirasha (0)

-

Titus (4)

- AGar, Natirasha, kanyeknowsbest, TiphaineDeath

No lynch (0)

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Not voting (1)

- leviathan93

11 votes available
6 votes needed to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-20 22:11:04)

V/LA: Pyrotechnics (12/23)

NachoKoopa has been prodded.

[NachoKoopa]

I wanna hammer it.

Disassociative language. Good fucking lord. God damn it. Now they lynch me when I am this close to finding the scum and ending this. Ugh.

Levi - Kanye - Nacho. Signed sealed delivered.

I don't know what language is but ok.

[NachoKoopa]

also titus is town, just saying.

Okay thanks Levi