Dota 2 Thread: REBORN SOURCE 2 HYPETRAIN NOBRAKES

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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:21 am

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Oh dear Ace! I totally understand how you feel and believe me i have had those moments.
At the begining of Dota career, I was doing okay and later i turned out to be more than okay. I have had KDA like 31/2/14 once. So, I thought i don't have to turn back and dota is way too easy. I started partying with much more experienced players (ex: somelike Molla & Katsuki) then I realised that Dota as game is much more than what I knew about it especially things like early farming, good laning, support, etc. I have lost so many games, so many games my win rate has come down to 47% and i am assuming it may get worse, but this all thought me so much about Dota that i didn't knew before, alot of experienced players trying to teach me about many stuff (especially on creep auto attacking early of ta game) but i was too noob to understand it at that point of time which resulted me many losts and each time i lost a game, I usually join others and call out the bad players of that group and if was the bad player. I stay quite but i realized its not just about one player who join ruins a game its everyone in game responsible for game loose at some level except i call out that on someone who played bad in the group, if it was me.. I just stay quite. This all made me realize that Dota community has itself built a behavior that everyone around always look for to blame someone else when they loose a game instead accounting their own mistakes that may have changed game's win condition or at least thinking that other team have played better than them.

Thanks to new Ranking match making system, that shows me where i stand as individual. I dont care if that is accurate or not but now i have some number that judges me which makes me nervous more each game i play in future.

I always play for fun, but now i want to play improve myself. I am practising last hits, effective laning, ganking techinque by watching other games and reading through several guides. Suprisingly there haven't been any remarkable development. I am still loosing games in usual way but this time I am only looking at the wrongs i have did instead of blaming the feeder in a game and moving on with no regret. I started being open about how much I suck at DOTA. So, All my advice is to you... If you're loosing. Its a good thing. Its a chance for you to learn and become better and you have that potential. I have seen your play and you sure know how to play. Alll you just have to do is focus a bit more on serious gaming and in no-time you will become better, at least we think better. I call anything as acheivement.

Btw, I my current RMM solo rating is 1800. It was 2200 and it came to 1800 after loosing 6 games in row.
so do you all got your solo RMM rating?
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:25 pm

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I had a conversation with somebody in game today

and I learned something

I.
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Play for fun.
And I never have in anything I do. that's probably why people don't play pick up basketball with me anymore.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:51 pm

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If you want to play to win, you could watch pro games to start to understand this game on a whole nother level.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:23 am

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If your sole focus is to win then that is the only thing that will make you happy, and things will bother you a lot more. If you play for fun you will never be disappointed. :)

I am going to Arizona for a month starting Sunday, so I'll be on way less.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:39 am

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Playing for fun is how I played this game for 90% of the time I've played it.

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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:08 pm

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diff personality types. I feel like almost a cheater if I'm not playing to win.

losing is okay if I actually got beat.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:20 pm

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In post 1454, BBmolla wrote: "Can I find some way to jungle with Antimage? Let's find out."
I'm guilty of having done this multiple times before, though I do my job of rotating, rune checking etc.
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:33 pm

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i lioke to try really hard to win.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:05 pm

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4313 solo rating is that good

Pros are 5000 - 6000 so I think that makes me better than most \o/
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:46 am

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ive just started playing.

help
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:29 am

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In post 1458, BBmolla wrote:4313 solo rating is that good

Pros are 5000 - 6000 so I think that makes me better than most \o/
jerax is like 6k from playing exclusively earth...

i think the other pros are around the 5.2k+ mark. A lot of pubstompers up around there too.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:55 am

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srsly got raped by bots plz help
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:23 am

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In post 1459, Kcdaspot wrote:ive just started playing.

help
I thought that was you but was like "Nah he don't play this game."

I have to go off to family's today, later this week I'm down to help you out.

http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-d ... rswofRDsz8

Try this maybe?

If you can be more specific on what you need help with I can explain. The tough thing about bots is that the 5 bots work together and your 4 bots work together, often without you.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:24 am

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I know my friend played a few weeks worth of bot games before he'd try real games XD

He read up on guides and everything.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:24 am

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In post 1460, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1458, BBmolla wrote:4313 solo rating is that good

Pros are 5000 - 6000 so I think that makes me better than most \o/
jerax is like 6k from playing exclusively earth...

i think the other pros are around the 5.2k+ mark. A lot of pubstompers up around there too.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:34 am

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lol I've dropped 100 in the past few days. :P
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:32 pm

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sorry :P
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:08 pm

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dont worry you had no effect on it, we talking about solo mmr.

My party MMR i think is around 4.2k or lower haha, wonder what itll be after calibration

as an aside, finally won a team MMR game earlier today, but apparently it didn't get counted because of server problems... fuck that had an awesome LC game too.
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:01 pm

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Is it only me feeling this or an individual MMR is completely depend on win/loss ration despite how successfully you played your part in a game?
I played a game where I solo did 13/4/9 KDA which is fairly okay for a carry hero. We did lost that game because the bottom fed to Anti and bara while top and mid lane are just doing okay. i did my best ganking at bottom as i could but they were too fat already especially anti. so it was gg but my MMR still shows -27 after that game..

and another game i played, i hardly played properly but we won becuz we had better players, I was like 6/9/4 ratio. and for that game i got like +25 in mmr

So do you think even this so called ranking match making system is broken???

ISn't the purpose of rank match making is based on solo individual performances such as (last hits, denies, KDA etc) why it is connected with Win/Loss of a game. i am annoyed becuz it doesn't matter how much i try i am going back to poor rating because most the times i play, i end up with feeders a whole lot of feeders in my game.
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:16 pm

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In post 1468, ArcAngel9 wrote:So do you think even this so called ranking match making system is broken???
I'm not sure yet, but the dev said it still depends on win or lose. I'm too lazy to read that. (Me and my friend just discussed about it :])
In post 1468, ArcAngel9 wrote:ISn't the purpose of rank match making is based on solo individual performances such as (last hits, denies, KDA etc) why it is connected with Win/Loss of a game.
Yeah, maybe they still develop about this. My friends talked about ranked a lot. (I never ranked because what I heard)
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:16 pm

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In post 1468, ArcAngel9 wrote: ISn't the purpose of rank match making is based on solo individual performances such as (last hits, denies, KDA etc)
It's not. Dota is about winning.

If stats were the case, no one would risk their lives to protect others when they should (support saving a carry or multiple teammates in exchange for their lives for example). Also it would encourage ks'ing and last-hitting heroes, at times letting enemy heroes get away because people were too selfish in wanting the hero kill.

No one cares about how well you played, only whether you win or not. Look at dendi in game 5 of the TI3 finals.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:10 pm

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party mmr of 4334, gg no re.
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:48 pm

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I played a game with a great lineup recently.

We had a CK tide CM safelane, BH solo off, and pudge mid.

We lost, but only cause our BH had never played the hero before and pudge faced an OD. Our lane was awesome. And I think that replaceing pudge with Puck would make that a great team no?
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:52 pm

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It's a fine lineup, but the opponents lineup is important here too

Depending on their tri, or if they were dueling, you could have aggressive trilaned.
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:53 pm

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Pudge/Puck are pretty interchangeable there as long as Tide gets blink, and depending on who you're against (Obviously if they have Storm Spirit or QOP or something, Puck is preferable)
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