Micro 273: There is Trouble in Paradise (Game Over)

[PhDScar]

"I'm very stubborn. Correct me quickly if I say things that are flawed. I will insist on them forever if you don't.
Also, I'm known to hard tunnel on people. Very hard. And usually it's on town. Though I think that I'm starting to control it."
That is a quote from your own Wiki.

[YellowKingValley]

unreasonably WKing my scumread

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You never told us the other one.

[YellowKingValley]

Prod Citizen M
Prod Jason

[Kazekirimaru]

I will stand by calling Kaze's play as opportunistic.

Sigh. This female.

My play has most certainly not been opportunistic - that would imply I'm going for any lynch I can get. Truth is I'm only down for two lynches at this moment: you and Delta. The two people I've been calling scum this whole entire game. I've been saying it over and over that it's you two. Vehemently. That's about as far as you get from opportunistic as I've locked myself into scumreading you two this whole game. If I were scum, this would be a horridly stupid play as I have zero flexibility and zero outs.

As far as the events go: I read delta as scum, pushed his wagon. You came along somewhere around that time and I found you to be scum, as well. Pushed the Delta wagon to a claim, I still wanted a lynch, but it fell apart. I could see it was going nowhere today and decided I'd push you instead since you're my other scumread and there was already support for the wagon by a townread of mine. I still think Delta is scum and I hope the rest of the town will have the sense to lynch him with me tomorrow, but I'll happy lynch my other scumread in you today as a compromise. If there's anything illogical in my play this game thus far, I sure don't see it.

[Citizen M]

Sup guys I'm going to Paris

See you soon I hope! Good luck!

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I will stand by calling Kaze's play as opportunistic.

Sigh. This female.

Are you trying to get yourself killed, punk!?

[Kazekirimaru]

You gonna be the one to make it so? ;D

[YellowKingValley]

You gonna be the one to make it so? ;D

Nah. She will ask me to kill you and then kill me.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

You gonna be the one to make it so? ;D

Nah. She will ask me to kill you and then kill me.

Oh my..


Just make sure to keep you mouth shut when I do.

[Kazekirimaru]

No idea who that girl is from.

So, Kat, I'm scum, huh?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

No idea who that girl is from.

So, Kat, I'm scum, huh?

Blood mages have red hats and your avatar has one.

[Kazekirimaru]

Only because I got it Christmas-itized ;_;

Everyone knows I main the priest/cleric/WHM class, anyway.

[Wisdom]

"I'm very stubborn. Correct me quickly if I say things that are flawed. I will insist on them forever if you don't.
Also, I'm known to hard tunnel on people. Very hard. And usually it's on town. Though I think that I'm starting to control it."
That is a quote from your own Wiki.

So what did I say that was flawed?

[Wisdom]

unreasonably WKing my scumread

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You never told us the other one.

Prod Citizen M
Prod Jason

These two, though not quite as strong as Kat. Which I've already said.

[Deltabacon]

Kaze, I wouldn't see you as opportunistic if you elaborated your read on me. As it is, we've gone 24 pages without you putting anything behind it other than your vote and a call for others to follow.

Just throw us a bone here and say -WHY- I'm so scummy to you still.

[Wisdom]

Kat is kinda town, but I don't have much reasoning beyond the fact that they aren't Kaze, YKV or Citizen.

If you accepted that kaze is stubborn town, YKV is VI town, and citizen is useless town, would you see Kat as scum?

[Wisdom]

Also remind me what your read on Jason is.

[Deltabacon]

I'm still not sold on Kat. I've ISO'd her a few times, and I'm just not getting anything from it. Nothing has popped out at me as overtly scummy.

My gut feeling says that Jason is town. His outburst directed at YKV seemed quite convincing and whilst that's weak reasoning at best , I do feel like he's town. Needs to post a fucktonne more, but town.

[Deltabacon]

It seems like quite a few people want her gone, but I'm not seeing it. I'm still working that out from the basis that there are scummier people than her, not that she's overtly town.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, that doesn't answer my question. To word it differently, what happens if kaze, YKV and citizen are all town?

[Deltabacon]

I look through the thread at all the remaining players. That much should be obvious - what's with the question?

[Wisdom]

So what would that look tell you?

[Deltabacon]

If you mean who I would suspect next, probably one of Kat or Kagami - I heartily dislike Kagami's fear of being attacked and this 'metaputor' or whatever it is, but again they've done nothing overtly scummy that leaps out at me as yielding much if anything with a push.

Ninja'd: Wisdom, I'm not going to re-read the entire thread at your request just because you think I'm wrong. I think I'm right, and until I decide otherwise you can deal with it. If I do get proven wrong, then shit I'll hold my hands up and concede that, but stop acting as if you've got information that the rest of us haven't.

Like seriously, you're acting quite aloof and patronising there.

[Wisdom]

Nope.

You are reading people based on reads you have on others. This is a completely wrong thing to do. You don't even know why Kat or Jason are town yet you're stating townreads on them as if your suspects have flipped scum.

[Deltabacon]

I'm not allowed to have a gut feeling about Jason? Sure, I'm doing that for Kat but that's because I'm going for the people who I feel are more likely to be scum. And also because I completely don't see the case on them, but that's beside the point.