Micro 281 - Masons and Mafia [Game Over]

Klick · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:16 pm

Because the person who got shot is town. If we find the person who got shot, we get a town, which makes it hard for scum to win.

Also I recently reread that Fire and Ice game, it was a good read.

Venrob · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:22 pm

Scuse me, figuring out who he shot has only scum motivation.

Venrob · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:23 pm

And then there was another page. We can only hope scum shoot same again.

Klick · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:31 pm

See: the post right above yours.

InflatablePie · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:39 pm

we could also lynch Klick

it saves me the trouble of deciphering the little bit of interaction on page 1 between him and Bert

Wisdom · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:37 am

Vote Count 2.1

RedCoyote (1)

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InflatablePie

InflatablePie (1)

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Malakittens

Not Voting:

Klick, Lincolm, RedCoyote, Venrob

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2014-01-07 23:35:00).

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Lincolm · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:24 am

Looking for Bert's target is advantage for both alignment, but in this condition I don't think it is give advantage for scum. He is alone and I don't think he want to shoot now. (Hey, I ever felt this felling)

In post 29, InflatablePie wrote:we could also lynch Klick

it saves me the trouble of deciphering the little bit of interaction on page 1 between him and Bert

I don't get it. What do you mean by "deciphering" when there is one scum left?

Venrob · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:57 am

Just did maths. We have 2 ml's, factoring in scum hitting a mason. If scum shoots accurately, 2 mislynches! Everyone get posting and forming reads.

Lincolm · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:29 am

In post 32, Venrob wrote:Everyone get posting and forming reads.

Klick is town. Venrob and Mala probably town.

Oh yes, I won't taking out my eyes from Klick because this (which I agree a lot), but he is town.

Venrob · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:35 am

If you wish to meta me, you can see i never really get reads going until night has passed or at least there are a few deaths, and since nightless... my reads might need some time. I can agree on klick town though.

InflatablePie · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:05 am

In post 31, Lincolm wrote:
In post 29, InflatablePie wrote:we could also lynch Klick

it saves me the trouble of deciphering the little bit of interaction on page 1 between him and Bert
I don't get it. What do you mean by "deciphering" when there is one scum left?

I'm not sure if the interaction between them was Klick-town and scum-Bert or Klick-scum and scum-Bert and I don't feel like figuring it out.

InflatablePie · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:13 am

1. Klick - dunno
2. Lincolm - scum prob, post 11 seems weird, slight fencesitting in 31 (re: Bert target) and 33 (re: Klick)
3. Malakittens - town prob
4. RedCoyote - scum, post 12 rubs me the wrong way.

5. Bert

6. Venrob - dunno
7. InflatablePie - town duh

mala: why are you voting me?

Malakittens · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:39 am

I felt like it and it was worthy of a sniff so to speak.

Lincolm · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:52 am

In post 35, InflatablePie wrote:
In post 31, Lincolm wrote:
In post 29, InflatablePie wrote:we could also lynch Klick

it saves me the trouble of deciphering the little bit of interaction on page 1 between him and Bert
I don't get it. What do you mean by "deciphering" when there is one scum left?
I'm not sure if the interaction between them was Klick-town and scum-Bert or Klick-scum and scum-Bert and I don't feel like figuring it out.

Heh... How lynch Klick can help you then, seriously?

In post 36, InflatablePie wrote:2. Lincolm - scum prob, post 11 seems weird, slight fencesitting in 31 (re: Bert target) and 33 (re: Klick)

In post 36, InflatablePie wrote:4. RedCoyote - scum, post 12 rubs me the wrong way.

Comparing this two, why you prefer RedCoyote over me?

InflatablePie · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:48 pm

Not the answer I was expecting, Mala.

Lincolm, if you're asking why my vote's on RC when I outlined more scummy things about you... well, RC only has one post. Klick lynch would help me because then I don't have to WIFOM his Bert-related conversations in LYLO.

Klick · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:35 pm

I have an idea, let's lynch the scum BEFORE lynching me because of WIFOM.

The scum's between Mala and RC. I'm fine with either of those votes.

Lincolm · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:58 pm

In post 39, InflatablePie wrote:Lincolm, if you're asking why my vote's on RC when I outlined more scummy things about you... well, RC only has one post

I don't see you pushing lynch like Klick (which I know what idea he is going to do), but why keep your vote on RC? If RC is active, or maybe later (unfortunately, or I should say to myself fortunately, he doesn't have keyboard to type now) you're going to vote me anyway.

In post 39, InflatablePie wrote:Klick lynch would help me because then I don't have to WIFOM his Bert-related conversations in LYLO.

What WIFOM is in that conversations? Why you don't get information about Klick by yourself? Why you don't ignore the conversation if you can't find information in it?

In post 40, Klick wrote:I have an idea, let's lynch the scum BEFORE lynching me because of WIFOM.

You know I won't vote you. Not until you do something strange, though... but I doubt it after you said this. What WIFOM anyway seriously... Moreover no one claimed as VT or Mason.

In post 40, Klick wrote:The scum's between Mala and RC. I'm fine with either of those votes.

How InflatablePie is town?

Lincolm · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:08 pm

Non related game

: I should thanks to InflatablePie so I noticed that L4D2 is free in Steam. Thanks.

Klick · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:32 pm

In post 41, Lincolm wrote:
In post 40, Klick wrote:I have an idea, let's lynch the scum BEFORE lynching me because of WIFOM.
You know I won't vote you. Not until you do something strange, though... but I doubt it after you said this. What WIFOM anyway seriously... Moreover no one claimed as VT or Mason.

In post 40, Klick wrote:The scum's between Mala and RC. I'm fine with either of those votes.
How InflatablePie is town?

I was speaking from IP's point of view. He's worried because he can't read my interactions with Bert; I'm telling him to focus on other people so we can get the scum lynched without having to worry about that.

He's town because I don't see him bringing up the idea of voting me right now as scum. He's thinking all about who to vote for, rather than what he looks like.

Lincolm · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:52 pm

In post 43, Klick wrote:I was speaking from IP's point of view. He's worried because he can't read my interactions with Bert; I'm telling him to focus on other people so we can get the scum lynched without having to worry about that.

Nice point.

In post 43, Klick wrote:He's town because I don't see him bringing up the idea of voting me right now as scum. He's thinking all about who to vote for, rather than what he looks like.

I kinda doubted with this read now, although I used this before, after Buldermar proved he had kind of this play and got townread faster before everyone knew it (and he never got lynched when I played with him, as scum), but this is good point for now condition, though.

Malakittens · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:53 pm

Not scum this game, sorry bros.

I could be okay with a RC lynch.

Klick can be in my town pile for now. Lincolm too.

Waiting for more content from Venrob though. He's not so lurky so possible town too.

VOTE: RC

Venrob · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:26 am

Yeah sorry. Holiday stuff.... speaking of, sadly,

Starting tomorrow I will be V/LA to approximately the start of the new year. Visiting family in NY, not sure how much access i will get. Will try to get on on my new smartphone, but it is such a pain in the ass to type on there so dont excpect any real content posts during that time.

Anyways, i will try not to lurk although unless other people start posting things that give me something to talk about i dont have much to say right now.

Venrob · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:11 am

In post 46, Venrob wrote:
Starting tomorrow I will be V/LA to approximately the start of the new year.
Visiting family in NY, not sure

Fixed tag.... *facepalm*
too tired to b postin

RedCoyote · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:50 am

Klick 15 wrote:The reaction I was trying to goad here was a scum trying to encourage me to claim Mason.

This just doesn't sound realistic to me. I guess it's a better way to start the game than randomly voting though. I can't really think of a scum motivation for doing this either.

Klick 15 wrote:This one's pretty wacky and has a ton of WIFOM, so crazy stuff tends to work here, for both sides.

I'll agree to disagree. This setup, while unique and fun sounding, doesn't sound particularly complex. That's what appeals me. I generally don't play in games with too much going on or crazy roles or whatever. Additionally, I'd say that there's no more WIFOM here than in any given game of Mafia. But, like I said, I don't really sense anything sinister in what you're doing or trying to do.

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IP 17 wrote:fun fact: I don't think I've actually played M&M on the forums. so there's that.

Well, neither have I. But like I was telling Klick, I don't really see the potential for scum trying to sneakily advise Masons to claim publically. Logically that doesn't sound like an effective strategy, especially given that I am aware enough of the player list that I consider everyone here able of seeing through something like that.

Do you think I'm giving us too much credit?

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Klick 22 wrote:So I think Bert shot Lincolm. Thoughts?

The only person Bert interacted with was you, so I think you should be the odds on favorite. Mala was the least likely person that could've been shot at given that she hadn't posted yet.

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Venrob 26 wrote:Scuse me, figuring out who he shot has only scum motivation.

How so? You realize there's no night kill, right?

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IP 29 wrote:we could also lynch Klick

it saves me the trouble of deciphering the little bit of interaction on page 1 between him and Bert

That sounds pretty lazy. I have a strong townread of Klick. Who do you think Bert tried to shoot at?

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Lincolm 33 wrote:Venrob and Mala probably town.

IP 36 wrote:3. Malakittens - town prob

How in the heck do you two have Mala townreads? She asked one question that she didn't follow up with and voted IP in the single post she had when y'all two made these posts.

VOTE: Venrob for a weak attempt at pushing Klick. I'm also suspicious of Mala jumping on me without any interaction or explanation.

Venrob · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:41 am

Err i didnt push klick, and that was not my intention... i was pointing out that what he was doing was dumbassed. Except if i said it was dumbassed and he ended up being scum it would be wrong. So saying it has only scum motivation is "dumbassed if your town, too obvious if your scum".

The hope is that other scum shoots same person. If you see my previous play of this setup (which was the larger version) 2 of the scum shot the same person. Klick is 99% chance town imo. mainly because he was the focus of page one, and there was a shot.... so since its already been said and its too late to stop, i think klick was probs shot (meaning town).