Micro 276 Peek a Boo! Mafia GAME OVER

Majiffy · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:58 am

Om and I are discussing.

We're particularly interested in poking and prodding the Jingleberry.

Jingle · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:11 am

The Jingleberry is awaiting your prodding attempts.

Wisdom, explain to me again how the mod error confirms Nati as not the shooter. From what I can tell, he didn't get a No Results. He should have gotten a No Results. That is the extent of his mod error as far as I can tell.

Both the shooter and someone with a track investigation should have gotten a No Results PM according to rule 24, so I'm not sure how that confirms him.

Please let me know if I'm missing anything, as frankly Nati seems the scummiest to me right now.

Wisdom · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:32 am

The shooter wouldn't get a no results since their action succeeded?

Jingle · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:38 am

All players get a No Result or their results according to rule 24 in the rules list. I take that to mean the shooter would also get a No Result, as I have never seen a shooter get a result message for shooting.

Majiffy · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:44 am

I'm not sure that's quite how it works.

Jingle · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:50 am

In fact if anything it makes me suspect Nati even more for his not receiving a result, but I'm trying not to let that influence my thoughts as it was mod caused.

Other reasons I have to believe Nati is scum:

1. The immediate hammer of the No Lynch while admitting that he didn't read through the little bit of conversation that did happen. Admittedly only scummy if he knew his alignment.

2. The quick 180 about the second half of the plan after forcing the first half to go through. Without the second half, Jiffy is right that we should have lynched yesterday.

3. The instigation of the mass-claim, which wasn't part of my plan for today. This is also all WIFOM-y as it is possible that he just didn't read my plan correctly, but I feel that someone who was scum would be less likely to read through all plans and weigh the consequences than someone who was unsure.

Nati, care to respond?

Jingle · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:52 am

Easy enough to find out.

@MafiaSSK- If a successful Night Kill is submitted, does the player who submitted it get a No Results Role PM?

My assumption that they do is based slightly on the fact that I got a No Results PM for my shot at Om, but as it was an invalid action I'm not 100% sure.

Jingle · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:54 am

Anything you want to ask me, Jiffy? This poking and prodding session of yours is really boring.

Majiffy · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:57 am

In post 655, Jingle wrote:I feel that someone who was scum would be less likely to read through all plans and weigh the consequences than someone who was unsure.

Your feels are wrong.

(I didn't read shit)

In post 657, Jingle wrote:Anything you want to ask me, Jiffy? This poking and prodding session of yours is really boring.

Om isn't online as far as I can tell, so no, not yet.

Jingle · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:02 pm

Out of curiosity, did he tell you what power I gave him?

Om of the Nom · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:06 pm

I am here. Jiffy what do you want?

Majiffy · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:28 pm

Yes, he did, actually.

Om, QT.

Jingle · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:29 pm

I believe he wants to Powwow with you in your neighbor-thread about how awesome I am. Then he would like to engage in a rousing round of poke the Jingle until he's satisfied he can read me. I am in full support of this plan.

PEdit: Om, you a bad boy. If Jiffy's scum, they now know what power I gave you.

Majiffy · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:33 pm

If I was scum, I would have just claimed a guilty report (tracker, or alignment cop) on Om by now and won by mislynch.

But that's probably beyond you.

Wisdom · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:35 pm

Yeah because we would totally believe you

MafiaSSK · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:36 pm

In post 656, Jingle wrote:Easy enough to find out.

@MafiaSSK- If a successful Night Kill is submitted, does the player who submitted it get a No Results Role PM?

My assumption that they do is based slightly on the fact that I got a No Results PM for my shot at Om, but as it was an invalid action I'm not 100% sure.

Nah, for their results PM they get that their action was successful.

Jingle · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:40 pm

You assume we would have believed you... Which yeah given Thor's ML in Antihero is a good point, but I wouldn't have gone for a lynch today unless SSK himself told me who scum was. With that said, I'm currently looking at Nati and {uct, Wisdom}. If one of you two is scum, I think both are, and I've made my thoughts on that clear.

Jingle · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:46 pm

About 665, the mod error of he was supposed to get a PM but didn't is still valid regardless of which PM it was supposed to be.

@SSK- If you run this again I would suggest using No Result for the killer as well to allow for the possibility that someone else had also submitted a NK against that target and they were the ones who killed him, just to add to the alignment mystery.

Wisdom · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:57 pm

I don't think they're both scum. Majiffy probably is though.

Wisdom · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:59 pm

And you're right about the error, I guess the mod could just have forgotten to send the successful kill pm, still an error.

Natirasha · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:16 pm

I actually didn't realize we werent mass claiming today. I assumed that was the purpose the whole time?

Jingle · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:26 pm

I said nothing either way about massclaim yesterday. I suggested everyone open their role PM's today in order to actually have their abilities to use tonight. We have already massclaimed though, so whether it is a good idea is moot.

Majiffy · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:03 am

What are we doing now? Twiddling thumbs?

Natirasha · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:49 am

Well, how did the neighborhood talks go?

Jingle · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:24 pm

Apparently the neighborhood is very silent. Any reasons on your Jiffy read, Wis?