Micro 274 OVER!

[Peabody]

Hm. GM's crumb of townreading me does help his case.

[Peabody]

Roleblocker, tracker, and universal makes way more sense than tracker, rolecop and universal backup.

I'm kind of afraid of a quickhammer if I vote though if we are in lylo.

[RachMarie]

I think you are most likely an RB
And based on the town prs we have, a scum RB makes far more sense




PEDIT

no if you let her kill me that works out, even if you mislynch me we still can win, just do not lynch Peabody or Yates

And DO lynch GM

[RachMarie]

She is not the one who cleared you Peabody I did

And I would be fine with going one on one with GM I am that sure she must be the othere scum and their PR.

[goodmorning]

RB makes far more sense as a scum PR.

And if you were RBing Peabody how the he double hockey sticks show up in my investigation eh? I should have gotten a no result

You think 2 town investigatives makes more sense than an investigative and a blocking? Bullshit.

Also, RB =/= JK.

But if you're a rolecop, then the result you would get is roleblocker, which isn't in any way indicative of my alignment so I'm not quite sure why Town-you would even bring it up?

wow it is interesting how you dodge people's questions and all

[goodmorning]

@AP: What result would a rolecop get on an SK?

[Yates]

@AP: What result would a rolecop get on an SK?

You would get serial killer. That's how role cops work.

[Yates]

She is not the one who cleared you Peabody I did

Which means if RM is a scum cop then Peabody is probably her partner.

But that would also mean Peabody didn't do any of the kills if GM is telling the truth.



I feel like scum role cop makes more sense than scum RB. If GM is a scum RB and they had outed the tracker yesterday, why not just keep RBing him and try hitting a potential doc? At that point, the tracker would be useless. That's how I'd play it anyway.

[Yates]

Or Peabody is being set up by RM.

Damnit!

[RachMarie]

Feel free to look at my scum games and see how often I play a fake PR claim as scum. Not too often.

The lovely part is, the odds of a SK or 3 mafia in a 9 player game would be so scum sided even with heavy PRs.

So if you lynch one of us and track the other should be a win win. I am willing to go down to take scum with me one is already down so one more to go.

[RachMarie]

2 Newbie games

1222 one of the scum faked JK and when Hiplop flipped Doc, and I knew I was Cop I knew dude was scum even though I had not yet gotten a cop guilty on him yet. They No Lynched and I died that night happily knowing it would prove dude was scum when I flipped cop.

Then there was the one where Bae very successfully got them to NL when I was the JK by saying she was a tracker. She was lying scum and I knew it, but I could not convince them of it and again a No Lynch. Scum won that round.

I know if I die town still can win, GM does not have the same luxury here she has to keep it on me because now she is solo now that her scum bud is gone.

[RachMarie]

How is clearing him setting him up?

I posted my results, and unless you think it is role madness and all the townies have PRs then some have to be VTs.

So yeah Peabody and Yates are cop cleared.

[goodmorning]

@AP: What result would a rolecop get on an SK?

You would get serial killer. That's how role cops work.

I realize rolecops get the role name, but the alignment as well sounds iffy.

That's why I asked. I am attempting to ascertain whether an SK is likely.

I feel like scum role cop makes more sense than scum RB. If GM is a scum RB and they had outed the tracker yesterday, why not just keep RBing him and try hitting a potential doc? At that point, the tracker would be useless. That's how I'd play it anyway.

Well, then Wake would have told everyone that some sort of blocker existed, but we already knew based on setup spec that scum had some sort of PR so telling us what kind would probably not do much harm to them in the long run.

[Aegor]

SK would probably flip nothing, just like scum flips nothing.

[Yates]

Feel free to look at my scum games and see how often I play a fake PR claim as scum. Not too often.

The lovely part is, the odds of a SK or 3 mafia in a 9 player game would be so scum sided even with heavy PRs.

So if you lynch one of us and track the other should be a win win. I am willing to go down to take scum with me one is already down so one more to go.

Yeah. This is not flailing scum Rach. Like. At all.

What's bothering me is Rach is too smart to claim role cop for no reason. If she wanted to out me and signal her partner, I feel like she would just put me first on her "most likely to be scum" list in case she died or claim "I hope a vig shoots Yates" or something like that.

And I am also having a hard time believing there would be two scum left. Which makes me wonder what the utility of a RB would be.

Finally, I don't know why, but 562 just raised the hairs on the back of my neck. "I realize rolecops get the role name, but the alignment as well sounds iffy??" Would we assume "Town" Serial Killer for some reason?

And finally, defending the scum kill sounds terribad.

After careful consideration, a good night's sleep, and a morning pewp - I'm ready to do this:

VOTE: goodmorning

If I'm wrong, lynch RM tomorrow and this has been a fun game. Catch you all on the FLIP side.

[Yates]

Crap...

Vote: Unvote

Let me think this through a little more...

[Peabody]

Yates, think about the BALANCE here.

A tracker with 2 lives (via universal backup) and a roleblocker is believable.

But think about a tracker with two lives and a rolecop???

That makes no sense. It makes the town overpowered. I am not a serial killer either.

If anyone is lying, it is RachMarie.

I'm just afraid to vote at the moment.

[Yates]

Yates, think about the BALANCE here.

I know. Which is why I keep going back to RM-scum. I just can't wrap my head around it and feel like I keep thinking myself in circles.

[Peabody]

Screw it. This is the only thing that makes sense to me.

Here's to hoping I'm right.
VOTE: RachMarie

[Peabody]

The setup speculation from RachMarie (which strikes me as a 'need' stemming from pressure to post content) and her case on GM based mainly on VCA and DBK's WIFOM readings, this is feeling better to me.

[goodmorning]

Finally, I don't know why, but 562 just raised the hairs on the back of my neck. "I realize rolecops get the role name, but the alignment as well sounds iffy??" Would we assume "Town" Serial Killer for some reason?

What?

I'm saying a rolecop investigation of an SK could potentially give both a role and a third party alignment. I'm saying that sounds a little broken to me.

I don't think Rach is likely to be lying about her role. This means that I do not think we are dealing with an SK, unless their full role name is something like "Vanilla SK" or "1-shot bulletproof SK".

THAT means that I'm wondering if Tracker-Blocker-Backup vs Rolecop-Goon is balanced.

I don't know.

And finally, defending the scum kill sounds terribad.

I didn't realise that playing devil's advocate was no longer a thing people actually do?

The setup speculation from RachMarie (which strikes me as a 'need' stemming from pressure to post content) and her case on GM based mainly on VCA and DBK's WIFOM readings, this is feeling better to me.

Particularly considering that her VCA case on me applied better to her.

Also, not sure why you've handed me the hammer, because I've studied Saki in the art of quickhammering and Cabd in the art of not letting people wriggle away when you've got them, so

Vote: Rach

Let's hope I'm right.

[Peabody]

That wasn't the hammer.

[Peabody]

UNVOTE: RachMarie

I'm going to reapply my vote, but I want you to answer this:

Let's hope I'm right.

Why wouldn't you be right? What is the other scenario?

[goodmorning]

The other (albeit very unlikely) scenario would be Aegor and you, rc-rb-tracker-backup is too strong not to have a 3-man team.

Pretty sure it was the hammer though, Aegor didn't unvote that I can see.

[Peabody]

Oh, you're right, that was the hammer.

The fact that you took the time to explain tells me you either aren't scum or this isn't lylo. ^_^