NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[KoreanBBQ]

GIF, stop feeding the troll.

It's ok. Trolls don't bite obvtowns like us.

[KoreanBBQ]

Tell that to Uncle Charlie!

[Bert]

I don't bite humans!

[KoreanBBQ]

I don't bite humans!

We got a confirmed troll here!
Thank god we were a universal backup!

[Sakura Hana]

I'm just gonna move this discussion into the "never happened" side of my mind and continue suspecting Bert like I was.

[KoreanBBQ]

I'm just gonna move this discussion into the "never happened" side of my mind and continue suspecting Bert like I was.

10/10

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I skimmed through Norlkaz/Lllamarble's meta. I haven't finished yet but I'll post the links for easy reference.

TOWN: Mafia in #YOLOville, Revolution Mafia, Abarat, Mini 1412, Mini 1410
SCUM: TM 2012 White Flag, Outwitted, A uPick of Ice and Fire

Also, note that Empire used some of the same games in YOLOville to get a read on him. He was wrong there initially and I haven't read to see if he changed his mind, but the thing that struck out to me most was his description of scum-Llamarble as "tossing reads out of nowhere." It seems he is doing exactly that here.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Nacho, I want to hear updates on your reads and your thoughts about the plan to lynch someone besides SSK. I'd also like your opinion on my POE analysis and who you think we should lynch today?

[BROseidon]

So, I've been thinking about this and re-evaluating my thoughts. Why not lynch a different player than SSK today? SSK as scum is harmless to us since we already lost the vig. I doubt it makes much difference whether we lynch him now or later. The key reason I feel this way is that as time goes on the skill of the town deteriorates as the competent townies get killed. We should lynch the best scum (the ones capable of talking themselves of out trouble) while the competent townies are still alive. That way, we ensure they don't come up with a crazy way to wiggle their way out of lynches later on. On the other hand, SSK can be lynched anytime. I found it interesting he didn't claim to be roleblocked or anything but scumclaimed right away. Anyone can lynch him anytime. It is a foregone conclusion. On the other hand, the best scum players are usually only lynched when the best townies are still alive and they are far more of a threat. ffery, what are your thoughts about this? Also, Sakura's responses were meh. I didn't really find anything that made me go "well, that explains everything." It is still a matter of weighing whether she genuinely believed in that tell enough to outweigh her ignoring it in two other games.

SSK likely not scum doc.

Would rather lynch the confscum so that he stops posting about cheese.

This town isn't weak enough for attrition to cause too much damage.

[BROseidon]

Can we stop voting ssk now so ffery and i can talk? i dont even care if everyone else prod dodges until we're done.

I'm gonna take you up on that kthx.

[BROseidon]

SCUMMIEST: Cephrir > Arthur > Norlkaz > zMuffin > Sakura > BRO :TOWNIEST

Generic, Pieguyn, and Bert read very town and KBBQ and Casso get a pass for today. The others are confirmed. So, I'll probably start doing the interaction analysis with SSK starting with Cephrir.

wtf why does Casso get a pass.

*someone* counterwagoned him yesterday on scum, and I'm still gonna bet that it was scum.

[BROseidon]

Ffery/cabd have your goddamn convo so we can put an end to this god forsaken day.

[geists]

Ok I lied, going to bed soon, tomorrow afternoon-evening is a date, ffery/.

Oh and also light scumread on norlkaz right now.

How about now?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

SCUMMIEST: Cephrir > Arthur > Norlkaz > zMuffin > Sakura > BRO :TOWNIEST

Generic, Pieguyn, and Bert read very town and KBBQ and Casso get a pass for today. The others are confirmed. So, I'll probably start doing the interaction analysis with SSK starting with Cephrir.

wtf why does Casso get a pass.

Spoiler: He has this

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Would rather lynch the confscum so that he stops posting about cheese.

Fyi this is a really scummy statement regardless of whether it is meant to be a joke or not.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

SAD I'm pretty sure is scum! Cephrir too! Also don't like Pie still! That's it!

I like those enlightening statements that overflow with compelling reasons.

[BROseidon]

Would rather lynch the confscum so that he stops posting about cheese.

Fyi this is a really scummy statement regardless of whether it is meant to be a joke or not.

Your definition of "scummy" is bad and you should feel bad.

In a game with this much noise, the last thing we need is more noise. The "we need strong townies pushing better lynches" argument is invalid in a game with reasonable depth (like this one)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Looking over the players left alive, I think every single player in the game is very competent. But I'd rather have conftown involved in as many lynches as possible. It is ultimately up to Geists. If they want to be involved in another lynch, I'll support that. If not, that's their choice. I'd like to hear their thoughts about the merits of this proposal.

[MC Maraca]

@ffery, I'm around.

@falcon what am I; chopped liver?

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

What are your thoughts about it?

[MC Maraca]

I disagree with the notion of leaving scum alive on principle knowing the vig is already gone. I am however willing to listen to a good case made for acting otherwise.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I originally got the idea from here. ISO them to read the next several posts. There are a few key differences though the main one being the competency of the playerlist. But still, competence is relative. The more good townies we have, the better our lynches will go.

[Bert]

It's really sad because if SSK had started today seriously, we would have doubts about him and whether his lynch is right for today.

I've never been in a real game where scum was confirmed and gave up before lynch. You see new things every day.

Such is life.

Bert

[Cephrir]

....that makes bert town right

im not just imagining things right

[Empire]

Bump.