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Post Post #4000 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:54 pm

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We tend to throw weird ideas at each other to see what sticks. It's always a good time.
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Post Post #4001 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:49 pm

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Fair points, Shanba.

Like I said though, Spear in this deck would mainly be to either stop midrange/aggro from attacking you unless they want to lose a guy, or to occasionally be useful as a +1 for Stormbreath to dodge Mortars (or to make Reckoner more threatening). I'd at least try out one over a Heliod.

Maybe run that Ratchet Bomb MB over Helix (switch the two)?

Flare is okay, I don't like Phoenix in this deck though.

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Post Post #4002 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:32 pm

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I dont know why you would ever run wretched bomb main deck? That card is just very bad except in all but the most narrow situations. IT DOESNT EVEN ANSWER PACKRAT FOR GODS SAKES.
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Post Post #4003 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:43 pm

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dont all the tokens of packrat count as having 2 cmc?
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Post Post #4004 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:43 pm

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I mean they count for devotion so Im pretty sure
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Post Post #4005 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:44 pm

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it is pretty bad to have maindeck except in U/X control though I think
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Post Post #4006 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:22 pm

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Yeah all Pack Rat Tokens are 1B.
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Post Post #4007 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:22 pm

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So yes, Ratchet Bomb deals with the Rats.
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Post Post #4008 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:32 pm

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If you pump it to 2

I think the idea is that Ratchet Bomb usually just deals with 0 cmc tokens and with Ratchet Bomb it deals with them after 3 turns of being on the field
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Post Post #4009 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:20 pm

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-v ... big-670529

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Post Post #4010 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:32 pm

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the fact that nobody actually involved with MtG is involved in the film's production is a bad sign
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Post Post #4011 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:46 pm

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Post Post #4012 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:47 pm

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I'm more concerned with the massive card counterfeiting ring that was just exposed in china. but whatever.
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Post Post #4013 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:18 pm

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Post Post #4014 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:24 pm

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In post 4012, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm more concerned with the massive card counterfeiting ring that was just exposed in china. but whatever.
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Post Post #4015 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:04 pm

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http://www.starcitygames.com/article/27 ... Cards.html

I feel like Rosewater is massively underselling the issue (as, I'm sure you'll realize, he has a pretty huge incentive to do)

The issues for legacy are especially problematic.
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Post Post #4016 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:25 pm

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"In Raleigh, NC, there is an ongoing police investigation into this matter and whether or not any of the dealers are complicit."

Shit I remember seeing something about this
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Post Post #4017 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:42 pm

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I think Xenegos the god trumps any news about the possible end of Magic's value


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Post Post #4018 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:43 pm

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tbf i'd welcome a secondary market crash on the principle that I hate the high dollar entry point into certain formats

I get the points made against it that certain retailers couldn't survive if the secondary market crashed, and it's a valid point. But perhaps it's a good thing.
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Post Post #4019 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:45 pm

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I don't see it. Maybe getting devotion will be easier than I think.
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Post Post #4020 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:18 pm

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http://www.theatlantic.com/past/issues/ ... amond1.htm
An interesting counterpoint - being a market where artificially high valuations are propped up by convincing people
not
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But seriously, I'm having a hard time understanding how the counterfeiters intended to make any money off their operation if they were selling the cards just slightly above cost (even if they were selling in bulk). If people are willing to pay $100 for one Polluted Delta, you don't turn around and sell them 1000 Polluted Deltas for $10. Not only is it leaving rent on the table, it's rushing the market towards a state where all you
can
do is sell at cost.

Smart counterfeiters (which they appeared to be before this incident) want the same thing Wizards wants: a healthy market from which to skim a steady stream of profits. Their participation would alleviate supply shocks caused by the fact that Wizards rarely supplies cards in quantities relative to their demand (good) and generally cut into profits elsewhere in the Magic world (bad, if you believe the sob story about tanking LGSs and starving R&D). I suspect in this case, they knew the jig was up and tried to dump their stock, either to squeeze the last few pennies out of the operation or just out of spite.
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Post Post #4021 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:59 am

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Don't get the point of counterfeiting when you can print proxies of any card.
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Post Post #4022 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 4016, xRECKONERx wrote:"In Raleigh, NC, there is an ongoing police investigation into this matter and whether or not any of the dealers are complicit."

Shit I remember seeing something about this
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Post Post #4023 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:40 am

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In post 4021, PeregrineV wrote:Don't get the point of counterfeiting when you can print proxies of any card.
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Post Post #4024 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:04 pm

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In post 4021, PeregrineV wrote:Don't get the point of counterfeiting when you can print proxies of any card.
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