NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[BROseidon]

I think there was one that was like "Putting a vig in the game lowers town win rate." I remember it being more explicit.

[Bert]

ah, Cabd can find that! <3

[goodmorning]

Regarding the Mason claim, I'd like an explicit claim from GoodMorning stating that you are Masons with MC and MC alone just to be safe.

Explicitly, I am masons with MC. The number of masons is something more sharable upon one of our deaths, I would think.

More reading, I kinda lean Town on SAD.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Greetings,

Nacho is really bugging me for a more overall reads list, and all I've been doing are isos and spot reads.

Someone explain a wagon they're on, I want to get a take on it.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Regarding the Mason claim, I'd like an explicit claim from GoodMorning stating that you are Masons with MC and MC alone just to be safe.

This is kind of a weird way to ask the question. Why did you add the "MC alone" part?

[Casso the King of Seals]

So, we're on a Mason claim...I'm almost tempted to leave that vote there just for the amusement but..

Unvote: MC
Vote: MafiaSSK

I know this was one Nacho and I agreed on when last we talked - also biggest wagon is big and therefore probably win.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Actually, we haven't discussed Mafia in like...forever.
Meh, if he has a town read than just call it hydra dissonance and lulz, but I'm happier being on the big wagon anyway.

[goodmorning]

Thor is around. I've taken full control of posting because it was closer to how Thor wanted this hydra to function and I've had time to do it.

Actually, we haven't discussed Mafia in like...forever.
Meh, if he has a town read than just call it hydra dissonance and lulz, but I'm happier being on the big wagon anyway.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Nacho is really bugging me for a more overall reads list, and all I've been doing are isos and spot reads.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Unless you think by 'Mafia' I meant the game of Mafia as opposed to 'MafiaSSK'
I meant 'MafiaSSK'
Pay attention to my vote.

[Casso the King of Seals]

I know this was one Nacho and I agreed on when last we talked

Actually, we haven't discussed Mafia in like...forever.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Interact with me!

[Bert]

I brought cupcakes! Enjoy.

They are full of sugary sweetie goodness. <3

In an effort to consolidate, this is my ultimate content post of the day! Later!

[geists]

Interact with me!

What are your thoughts about the SSK wagon?

[Norlkaz]

I hate to spend time on this, but: Some vig stats
Vigs contribute more to winrate than cops in even number start games (like this one) and break about even with cops in 3:10.
You can construct situations where the cop is stronger, but most of the time the vig wins because a lynch must be consumed to remove a copguilty while a vig's action is confirmable / still works if the vig is shot.
I've always found it weird that Llamafluff champions the anti-vig movement since he's an engineer and should know better, but I think he's had some bad personal experiences.
If you want to talk about vigs vs cops postgame that's fine; I won't be mentioning it further before then. Vigs being protown isn't up for discussion though.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Interact with me!

What are your thoughts about the SSK wagon?

That it's probably not big enough.

What are your thoughts?

[geists]

Interact with me!

What are your thoughts about the SSK wagon?

That it's probably not big enough.

What are your thoughts?

That it's a good wagon, but I don't want the day to end yet.

What did you think of SSK's protect choices?

[Casso the King of Seals]

I had to look up who he claimed for today.

With that answer I presume he's actually got a decent chance to not be a Mafia Doc and did target BRO with something. So I'd say BRO is confirmed town unless Mafia flips mafia doc, in which case BRO is who I'd lynch next.
That seems a pretty boring question.

What are we doing with this day if not lynching Mafia?

[geists]

I had to look up who he claimed for today.

With that answer I presume he's actually got a decent chance to not be a Mafia Doc and did target BRO with something. So I'd say BRO is confirmed town unless Mafia flips mafia doc, in which case BRO is who I'd lynch next.
That seems a pretty boring question.

The question was for context. I couldn't tell how well you're plugged into the current game state based on your recent posts.

What are we doing with this day if not lynching Mafia?

Ent Moot apparently.

[Casso the King of Seals]

The question was for context. I couldn't tell how well you're plugged into the current game state based on your recent posts.

My recent posts pretty much said 'I'm not plugged in and it's peeving off Nacho, so I'm trying to plug in again' ...but, sure, you have accurately noted that I'm not plugged in as well as I should be, I hope that clarifies things for you.

I've spent a lot of the time in the QT talking about Desp, frankly, and building cases thereupon. I also spent some time telling Nacho how dumb DOMO's case on us was when he asked me for my advice on getting DOMO to chill - as far as I'm aware he didn't post any of my responses whisch were mostly 'DOMO is a raging lackwit and here's why - et al'

He's also filled me in on a few happenings and asked my opinion and I've done a bit of VCA and a pile of sort of mindless growling about how much I hate the game, the playstyle, and a number of the actions as I feel everyone is making the game about four times as big and complicated as it has any right to be at this stage. I also keep encouraging him to just lulzhammer people but he seems opposed to that idea as well, such is my fate.

Ent Moot apparently.

The book or the movie version? Because one made sense and the other really didn't.

Conversation is currently dead because we have no scum flips nor any exciting night actions.
Let's lynch someone and get more night actions and then maybe stuff will get exciting again.
The other option is people can at least come in here and bounce some of their thoughts off me for about two days and then we lynch someone.
I can't think of a third acceptable plan, but am willing to hear it.
Any comments of "use our time" will be met with the derision they deserve.

[Bert]

Yes, Thor, this game hasn't been the most exciting! I'm ready to shoot someone's brains and call it a day! <3

What do you say, Colonel?

[geists]

The question was for context. I couldn't tell how well you're plugged into the current game state based on your recent posts.

My recent posts pretty much said 'I'm not plugged in and it's peeving off Nacho, so I'm trying to plug in again' ...but, sure, you have accurately noted that I'm not plugged in as well as I should be, I hope that clarifies things for you.

I've spent a lot of the time in the QT talking about Desp, frankly, and building cases thereupon. I also spent some time telling Nacho how dumb DOMO's case on us was when he asked me for my advice on getting DOMO to chill - as far as I'm aware he didn't post any of my responses whisch were mostly 'DOMO is a raging lackwit and here's why - et al'

He's also filled me in on a few happenings and asked my opinion and I've done a bit of VCA and a pile of sort of mindless growling about how much I hate the game, the playstyle, and a number of the actions as I feel everyone is making the game about four times as big and complicated as it has any right to be at this stage. I also keep encouraging him to just lulzhammer people but he seems opposed to that idea as well, such is my fate.

Ent Moot apparently.

The book or the movie version? Because one made sense and the other really didn't.

Conversation is currently dead because we have no scum flips nor any exciting night actions.
Let's lynch someone and get more night actions and then maybe stuff will get exciting again.
The other option is people can at least come in here and bounce some of their thoughts off me for about two days and then we lynch someone.
I can't think of a third acceptable plan, but am willing to hear it.
Any comments of "use our time" will be met with the derision they deserve.

Book version.

I want to talk reads with players and leave my thoughts in the game for day 4. I think Nati feels the same way.

Have you and Nacho talked about F-16's suggestion to scumhunt elsewhere today and lynch SSK day 4?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Book version.

That's the one that makes sense...hurm...

I want to talk reads with players and leave my thoughts in the game for day 4. I think Nati feels the same way.

I await with baited breath.

Have you and Nacho talked about F-16's suggestion to scumhunt elsewhere today and lynch SSK day 4?

We have not. I'll offer a deeper opinion on that one after he answers my question, but my initial commentary is 'meh'. If his theory is that Mafia is telling the truth, then that means scum had some way (roleblocker seems likely, though I suppose Strongman is an option) to ensure their kill could go through. At that stage, what working theory makes him think they just wouldn't do the same tonight if the goal was to arrange a mislynch? I don't get it.

[Casso the King of Seals]

So, we're on a Mason claim...I'm almost tempted to leave that vote there just for the amusement but..

Unvote: MC
Vote: MafiaSSK

I know this was one Nacho and I agreed on when last we talked - also biggest wagon is big and therefore probably win.

Voting confirmed scum isn't the worse vote you could make, true.

[Casso the King of Seals]

worst*