Micro 279: Uncommon Mafia - OVER

[BBmolla]

Votecount 2.03

Alduskkel - 1 - Bicephalous Bob,
PhDScar - 1 - implosion,

Not Voting: Alduskkel, PhDScar, Klick, Mac, yessiree

Deadline: (expired on 2014-01-23 22:19:00)

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I don't think Klick and Aldi are scum together.

That's a little odd considering Greater Idea Mafia (which this game's role PMs are based on, see post 2) contains neither a Firefighter nor an Arsonist.

what was the point of this post

why the vote on Aldi?

still not convinced aldi is town

not if the faction doesn't have a vanilla nk

But the kind of mafia vig aldi was talking about *does* have a vanilla nk:

Imagine having a Mafia Vigilante who can use their action in addition to the factional kill.

In addition: how did Alduskkel's name start being abbreviated to Aldi?

so your point is that the arsonist can't be alien because there can't be a mafia vig in vanilla micro games

that's not very solid

the nickname is probably my fault

[yessiree]

I don't think Klick and Aldi are scum together.

why is Klick included in the pair, since you just confirmed Klick cannot be scum

what kind of reasoning is this

[Bicephalous Bob]

well I could be insane or there could not be aliens at all or the aliens have a redirection thing or they have a godfather

but I didn't get the feeling klick and aldi are scum together from the way aldi claimed

[Bicephalous Bob]

there might be no aliens at all is what I was trying to say

[Alduskkel]

But you still said the Captain was probably an Alien...?

[Alduskkel]

Aldi, what did you know about my role before my claim?

I knew you had to follow my orders.
I knew that if you targeted yourself you would get No Result (which makes your Millerness weird but I think that's a remnant of the Conspiracy Theorist role).
I knew that you investigated for Aliens.

That's it.

[Alduskkel]

By the way, you're currently targeted onto PhDScar. I can change that any time before the hammer, and I can also say stuff like "if PhDScar is lynched then investigate X instead."

[Bicephalous Bob]

But you still said the Captain was probably an Alien...?

I just said that to make claiming scarier for you. I figured you were more likely to refrain from claiming as scum if I pretended to think the captain is alien.

The only thing that doesn't sit right with me is the "firefighter isn't a greater idea role" comment. Captain doesn't even make sense as a greater idea role. Why did you say that?

[Bicephalous Bob]

BB, could you prod Klick, PhD and Mac?

[yessiree]

okay, so from all of this set up speculation,

7:1:1 sound plausible? with 2 anti-town factions being an alien and an arsonist

[Bicephalous Bob]

no that's barely mafia

we either have alien arsonists or either my or bert's role is useless

[BBmolla]

BB, could you prod Klick, PhD and Mac?

Yep.

[Alduskkel]

The only thing that doesn't sit right with me is the "firefighter isn't a greater idea role" comment. Captain doesn't even make sense as a greater idea role. Why did you say that?

Conspiracy Theorist and Aliens are in Greater Idea, I just derped and forgot that Captain wasn't.

Honestly, I'm expecting 7-2 or 6-2-1. Scum may or may not be Aliens, if there's a third party it probably is an Arsonist.

[PhDScar]

Okay does anyone actually have a scum/town suspect based on posting? Because it just seems like you're all making assumptions about whose who based on set up theory.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I think yessirree and implosion are town based on posting. I don't think Aldi and Klick are scum together. This means at least one of you and mac is scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mac

[PhDScar]

but why?

[Mac]

Yo I'm here.

I still don't think I buy Klick's claim mainly because we have all these alien searching roles, captain, firefighter - compulsive visitor just sounds a bit lame really. otherwise I need to read up a bit more so that will come tomorrow

[Alduskkel]

I kind of want yessiree to full claim so that we can get a better idea of whether or not Klick's claim is legitimate. The less powerful yessiree is the more I'm inclined to disbelieve Klick's claim because Klick is basically claiming Miller except for Trackers/Watchers/whatever instead of Cops. If yessiree's role is powerful enough to *warrant* a role to reduce its power, then maybe I'll think about believing Klick. If it's something lame then Klick is probably lying.

[Bicephalous Bob]

massclaim

Mac -> PhD -> yessirree -> implosion

[PhDScar]

Bob answer my question. Why are those people listed town and why are other people you listed scum?

[yessiree]

okay, lemme make this clear

9 players, likely 7:2

flipped fire-fighter -> indicates existence of arsonist
claimed visitor -> indicates tracker/watcher
claimed loyal conspiracy theorist -> indicates captain and aliens

I treat Klick's claim with more credibility than all of this alien crap because his role, in conjunction with mine, strongly indicates the existence of an arsonist, which is further reinforced by Bert's flip.

But fucking aliens?

[yessiree]

I kind of want yessiree to full claim so that we can get a better idea of whether or not Klick's claim is legitimate. The less powerful yessiree is the more I'm inclined to disbelieve Klick's claim because Klick is basically claiming Miller except for Trackers/Watchers/whatever instead of Cops. If yessiree's role is powerful enough to *warrant* a role to reduce its power, then maybe I'll think about believing Klick. If it's something lame then Klick is probably lying.

I investigate for action types, as in {investigative, killing, protective, misc}

Klick's action type was misc, which I thought could include dousing someone in gas. But just by visiting someone plainly does fall under the misc category as well.

[Bicephalous Bob]

Role name?

[Bicephalous Bob]

why does your role indicate the existence of an arsonist

are those the only categories