Song Contest U-Pick - GAME OVER

[50 Shades of Purple]

Spy, your play improved after your wagon lost steam. Also, you're right and 50 is the best lynch for today. But if Garruk is going to try to pull something (and wanting his claim to be last to disguise a faked night action), that's seriously suspicious and I don't want that to happen.

What exactly do you think he's going to pull? Please run me through your thought process.

[50 Shades of Purple]

So, let's see... He's going after T-Bone, SpyreX, and Pecan. The only reason claiming after them matters marginally for Garruk as scum is so he doesn't engage in a 1v1 with them by claiming an impossible Roleblock result on one of them, but that's incredibly easy to avoid by not claiming a Roleblock result on them.

Why aren't you voting me?

[50 Shades of Purple]

We need to set the record straight so that there are no false assumptions about the night results, particularly the night 1 results.

1. We are town x-shot bp
2. We don't get notification when a vest is used

Prior to the day 3 claims and seeing how many different (and very plausible) protections as well as our bp might have accounted for the lack of a night 1 kill, we thought that we were pretty likely to have been targeted on night 1. After those claims, not so much. And I am concerned that the possibility of nachomollie being targeted on night 1 has been discounted due to our claim.

I wasn't shot N1 if Garruk is telling the truth.

[Garruk Relentless]

I don't understand how scumGarruk doesn't block FF and kill SpyreX, and I don't understand how scum with a blocker don't block FF and kill SpyreX. That seems incredibly obvious to me.

Someone who is actually thinking!

The fact is, I'm completely willing to die over this. You get my results on my terms or not at all.

[Generic]

vote t bone

[mykonian]

unvote vote purple

[50 Shades of Purple]

No we're getting somewhere!

[Mastermind of Sin]

For every juvenile criminal there are always one or more adult delinquents—people of mature years who either do not know their duty, or who, knowing it, fail. Garruk, you are an adult delinquent. Or scum. Please do something helpful to prove me wrong on both counts.

Hey MoS, do you think that I'm a scumbuddy of Porkens when I have a WEREWOLF GUILTY on me and he flipped MAFIA? This seriously isn't that difficult to figure out.

Touche. That's what I get for posting right after waking up. =P

We need to set the record straight so that there are no false assumptions about the night results, particularly the night 1 results.

1. We are town x-shot bp
2. We don't get notification when a vest is used

Prior to the day 3 claims and seeing how many different (and very plausible) protections as well as our bp might have accounted for the lack of a night 1 kill, we thought that we were pretty likely to have been targeted on night 1. After those claims, not so much. And I am concerned that the possibility of nachomollie being targeted on night 1 has been discounted due to our claim.

You forgot to follow this up with any actual substance. What effect does this information have on your read of the Shades/T-Bone situation?

The existence of a second scumteam has like a <10% probability at this point, but still I'm worried. There are way too many roles that can stop kills in this game. Something still isn't adding up.

Still, lynching T-Bone seems like the right play here. The way nights have played out is completely ridiculous otherwise.

Those voting Shades; what makes you think the multiball scenario is more likely?

[pieceofpecanpie]

UNVOTE: Garruk

Just goddamn claim already, Garruk, it's not that hard and there's really no reason why you should be going last.

VOTE: 50 Shades

So this is 50/50 for me. If Shades doesn't flip scum then we can lynch T-Bone immediately with impunity, unless someone wants to start entertaining the notion of framers? Here's my rambly rundown:

- T-Bone's timing with the claim does not make a lick of sense as a scum gambit, unless he was trying to take heat off Porkens? I dunno, seems far fetched. On the other hand the claim is a serious wtf moment for either alignment
- 50 Shades has been vote hopping like mad the whole game, perhaps its just their schtick, or it's a good way to hide scummy behaviour. By contrast T-Bone seemed more measured, especially Day 2 and early Day 3, which plays better in my eyes and also makes me want to give the claim some credence
- To entertain this as a scum gambit we need to consider what they stand to benefit. A 1 for 1 trade at best? On a VT was it?
- Despite all this the claim is suspect, since this implies we've got a multiball with the best docs/blockers I've seen. Or we've got a half mad T-Bone lying through their teeth

That's kind of how I'm toing and froing on this one. At this stage I'll go with the claim and see where it leads, mostly because I don't know any better. So I'll cautiously believe it because if it was a scum gambit to get us off Porkens then it failed and as an attempt to take out 50 Shades it only barely scrapes out a 1 for 1 trade. That seems an extremely reckless move as scum, so I've decided to believe this was T-Bone waiting around all yesterday for 50 Shades to come back to the thread so he could awkwardly claim onto him.

[T-Bone]

Morph is not a werewolf. 50 Shades still is.

Vote: 50 Shades

That's it really.

[Formerfish]

Why would you check morph and not one of the shady fucks?

[T-Bone]

Like? You? Spyrex? Pecan? Desp? Everyone else? I have so many fucking choices at this point. With Morph's claim I decided he was least likely to die last night, and thus a positive result would be most useful.

[Formerfish]

Or Garruk since he has had people openly question him, or pecan because his claim doesn't make the most sense, or pasch because he's been useless all game and is likely not town. Yet you pick someone who obviously is coming back town to look at, and surprise surprise they aren't a werewolf. Thank God we figures that one out.

[T-Bone]

Well if I let "obvious towness" dictate my investigations 50 Shades and company would be trouncing this game without any resistance. So excuse me if I trust my reads more than anyone else.

[50 Shades of Purple]

Well if I let "obvious towness" dictate my investigations 50 Shades and company would be trouncing this game without any resistance. So excuse me if I trust my reads more than anyone else.

this is a weird way to say you got a cop guilty from the gm

anyways I am back what the hell am I right in reading correctly that there is a question of multiball when evidence clearly indicates otherwise other than t-bone's werewolf guilty on us?

am I reading this correctly?

and there are people who...believe him?

I have no words.

[Garruk Relentless]

Morph is not a werewolf. 50 Shades still is.

Vote: 50 Shades

That's it really.

Andddd that's a lie.

SSK here. We blocked T-Bone last night. We were waiting for him to claim so that we could catch this scummy scum in his trap.

VOTE: T-Bone

[T-Bone]

Well you didn't block cause I got a result. Sorry.

[Garm-on-Mollie]

Well you didn't block cause I got a result. Sorry.

so you got a cop guilty on us, yeah?

[50 Shades of Purple]

Well you didn't block cause I got a result. Sorry.

so you got a cop guilty on us, yeah?

[pieceofpecanpie]

I was blocked last Night... again

pedit: Waaa?

[pieceofpecanpie]

Quick thought, is T-Bone pulling a super hard bus on a scumbuddy?

And does me being blocked twice suggest that Garruk's lying or that there's a scum roleblocker? I'd go the latter, as Garruk does not seem inherently scummy, just a bit derp about his earlier plays. Although this still begs the question, why wouldn't scum block a doc and kill the other? Did they outguess themselves or is there much much more lying going on?

[50 Shades of Purple]

~*~ london bridge is falling down, falling down ~*~

[pieceofpecanpie]

UNVOTE: 50 Shades

VOTE: T-Bone

Werewolf/Not Werewolf is the most plausible flavour text for the seer in this game. Otherwise I don't understand how our roles gel. T-Bone gets innocents on non-werewolf scum? I get innocent on werewolf 50 Shades? This would be much easier if my investigation on T-Bone went through. However, I think it's worth lynching and then deciding what to do with 50 Shades later. The whole odd-timed claim makes me think there's more to this. On the other hand there's also players I want to see lynched before 50 Shades.

[Formerfish]

Vote Tbone

[50 Shades of Purple]

UNVOTE: 50 Shades

VOTE: T-Bone

Werewolf/Not Werewolf is the most plausible flavour text for the seer in this game. Otherwise I don't understand how our roles gel. T-Bone gets innocents on non-werewolf scum? I get innocent on werewolf 50 Shades? This would be much easier if my investigation on T-Bone went through. However, I think it's worth lynching and then deciding what to do with 50 Shades later. The whole odd-timed claim makes me think there's more to this. On the other hand there's also players I want to see lynched before 50 Shades.

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