Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:08 am

So if I do "BEETLEJUICE BROSEIDON". will he come to this thread?

BROseidon · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:10 am

In post 24, GuyInFreezer wrote:#18 is why im townreading him.

Fakeable.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:11 am

By theory, it is.
In reality, not likely.

BROseidon · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:14 am

Maybe.

Also we aren't mass claiming. Scum already know exactly how many hiders there are, there's no need to give them extra info.

We do need a good way to slip hider crumbs through without them being obvious. I think each person stating who they would hide behind were they a hider in such a way that it forms a circle might be the best way to go about it.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:16 am

VOTE: BRO

BROseidon · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:21 am

Wait for it...

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:22 am

Wait for what exactly?

BROseidon · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:23 am

The face palm at your idiocy/scum-motivated vote.

Explain to me how you'd sneak hider crumbs through in a setup where scum know to look for hider crumbs, and know how many to look for.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:25 am

In post 53, BROseidon wrote:I think each person stating who they would hide behind were they a hider in such a way that it forms a circle might be the best way to go about it.

This is what I have problem with.
There is no town motivation in this plan, at all.
You do know that plan like this could get town endgamed by N1, right?

BROseidon · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:26 am

...how?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:27 am

I'll draw a diagram for you. hold on.

BROseidon · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:27 am

Okay, on the off chance that there are four hiders who would end up without VTs or scum b/w them in the chain AND scum just happen to shoot the person it resolves on...

Yeah, that's unlikely.

BROseidon · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:27 am

Okay, figured out how it *could* endgame town on N1.

The odds of that happening are abysmally low.

BROseidon · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:28 am

Oh wait we can have up to 5 hiders.

Can you explain how it's more likely to fuck over town than hiders crumbing targets normally?

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:30 am

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:31 am

In post 62, BROseidon wrote:Okay, figured out how it *could* endgame town on N1.

The odds of that happening are abysmally low.

Low as it may be, it can still happen.
And when it can happen, it can happen when we all expect it not to happen.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:34 am

In post 63, BROseidon wrote:Oh wait we can have up to 5 hiders.

Can you explain how it's more likely to fuck over town than hiders crumbing targets normally?

I don't have a problem with crumbing. What I have problem is making every hiders hide/chain hiding.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:48 am

Not to mention that mass hider death with chain hiding gives nigh 0 info.

BROseidon · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:10 am

So we tell scum who the hiders are and who to shoot by having only them crumb?

Or do we tell scum to shoot people with multiple people stating intention to hide behind them?

A 1-1 correspondence is the least risky one we can go with.

BROseidon · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:10 am

Also in the diagram you showed, only Varsoon would die. If I were a VT who got shot, then all the hiders would die.

Read the rules

BROseidon · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:11 am

In post 2, Cabd wrote:6: In the event of a hiding "chain" a night kill on the non-hidden endpoint will kill everyone else in that chain. In the event of the chain terminating in a hide behind a non-commuting mafia player, only the endpoint of the chain will die. If you are confused, feel free to PM me your questions about action resolution.

Let me help you with that

bubbajack8 · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:04 am

In post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 17, GuyInFreezer wrote:Let's make it so that we massclaim when this countdown reach zero:

(expired on 2014-02-08 19:00:00)
Quoting this

That's 6 AM for me.

In post 53, BROseidon wrote:Maybe.

Also we aren't mass claiming. Scum already know exactly how many hiders there are, there's no need to give them extra info.

They know how many. Who cares if they know who. A hider circle is brilliant unless the mechanic is the circle dies....

In post 57, BROseidon wrote:The face palm at your idiocy/scum-motivated vote.

Explain to me how you'd sneak hider crumbs through in a setup where scum know to look for hider crumbs, and know how many to look for.

i think that's his point a mass claim's going to help town whereas crumbs help scum.

I guess not. I feel like crumbs help scum more.

Varsoon · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:45 am

Crumbs can help anyone. The problem is that now that we've talked about crumbs, scum can just comb for them. Not cool and stuff.

BRO, please don't shoot me.

I get what GiF means with massclaiming and coming up with lynch pools.
That's the kind of thing I typically do.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:48 am

In post 69, BROseidon wrote:Also in the diagram you showed, only Varsoon would die. If I were a VT who got shot, then all the hiders would die.

Read the rules

Varsoon · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:06 am

<3
But wait
I don't wanna die