Open 543: Pick Your Poison (Game Over!)

[JerryArr]

Open 543 Vote Count

VOTE COUNT 1.11

LeMidget (3): emeraldemon, BoroPhil, Powerofdeath
Zekrom25 (1): Acidic_TACO
BoroPhil (2): JJcoolPants, Kublai Khan
YuniChikako (1): goodmorning
powerofdeath (5): iamausername, anorway, Yiley, LeMidget, Zekrom25

Not voting: YuniChikako

Day 1 deadline is 12 February, 2014 at 3PM EST, or in {(expired on 2014-02-12 15:00:00)}.

There are 13 living players, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.

NOTES:

JJcoolPants has been prodded.

[YuniChikako]

@Yuni: If you think Kublai is definitely scum, why aren't you voting him?

Whoops, thought I did.
VOTE: Kublai Khan

[BoroPhil]

Yuni, I like your 294

Firstly, you call me supertown - I don't think I've ever been called that before and if anyone wants to view my past games, I seem to get lynched early as town so excuse me if I don't get excited by this.

iamusername - I don't think he is scum. he's been a bit funny with me, but I think it's mainly because I called out his 196. I still don't think it's a great vote but I understand where he is coming from and I can see his point about the difference between pod/lemidget.

Obviously I agree with you on Kublai.
I think you have good town reads as well, eg JJ.

My only query is Taco. you say you think his scum list at 102 is very good and that scum list is Pod, Mikasa/Zekrom and Lemidget.

I know you have two of those on your scum list, but what do you think of the inclusion of pod?

I'd also like to know why you think goodmorning is scummy?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kublai

[Powerofdeath]

Lol people are stupid. People need to learn how to play. I am purposely not playing like other people. If you expect me to play like others, lynch me then. It will only hurt you guys even more.

[Powerofdeath]

I will state my reads incase even more stupid people joined and I get lynched.

[Powerofdeath]

Let me remind you all that this is only Day 1. I have my own reasons to act like this.

emeraldemon - scum
BoroPhil - town
Acidic_TACO - town
JJcoolPants- town
Kublai Khan - scum
goodmorning - town
iamusername scum
anorway - town
Yiley - town
LeMidget - town
Zekrom25 - idk
YuniChikako - scum

[JJcoolPants]

sorry for being inactive. tomorrow i'll actually try, i swear

[Powerofdeath]

lol? No one posted since?

[BoroPhil]

Apparently not. Certainly think pod is worth keeping alive today, not a day one lynch at all.

[goodmorning]

Lol people are stupid. People need to learn how to play. I am purposely not playing like other people. If you expect me to play like others, lynch me then. It will only hurt you guys even more.

Word of advice: generally here at MafiaScum, we don't expect you to play like everyone else. We do, however, generally expect that you develop some nod to site meta.
Is this your response to the accusations people are leveling against you?

ISOs get finished TODAY
WOOOO

[JerryArr]

iamausername, Kublai Khan, emeraldemon, and LeMidget have been prodded.

[Yiley]

Ya I managed to not get prodded for once. Guys let's get in where and post please

[JerryArr]

LeMidget has requested replacement.

[Zekrom25]

why is everyone against KK ?

[goodmorning]

Spoiler: JJ

Rational, your reads are far from rational (HAHAHAHA! BUT SERIOUSLY DONT JUST SAY RANDOM SHIT PLZ)

vote: anorway

Looks somewhat forced.

All of his posts are either non-productive, or cookie-cutter "what would town say here?"
His posts feel disingenuous

There is a certain degree of fluffing and non-originality, but I don't know that "disingenuous" is the word I'd use.

And followed by some hypocrisy here:

School has been a pain in the ass. I'll post some reads tomorrow.
But form what I can see my scum list is looking like this:
Powerofdeath
RationalMadman
LeMidget

Just from reading through a coupled day's worth of posts in two minutes so they may not be accurate but its a short list from a short reading.

I'm excited for you to elaborate on those

(ironically the part of this post I snipped was calling out RM for

his

hypocrisy)

Rational, explain your reasoning better, and maybe we will listen to you
Seriously

taco def scum with midget, and midget def is with khan or boro.

Ika is possibly replacement for taco

Why? You're being super unhelpful to town right now

And again, doing something he called anorway scummy for. Same in 118.

As much as I hate defending him, he's being anti-town, not scummy

This post is somewhat unique in that it takes a shot at something rather more relevant than all the previous posts; as an alignment tell, however, the content is not really useful but only the aim.

137:agrees that RM should be replaced.
141: requests prods
143: "I have nothing to talk about."

'Cause he's scum.

I'll prove it:
1. Read his iso
2. Try and tell me he isn't just looking to float by this game. Just try (protip: you can't)
I'll try harder to actually push this case tonight, busy right now

I'm not sure what this is in response to (MM's catchup I think?) but it seems to be about Yiley(?).

I hesitate to say the words "low-hanging fruit" but...

222: prod-dodge
234: 180 on anorway. Says he's having a hard time sussing the game. Again, could go either way.
239: piggybacking off a point I was only sort of making
306: prod-dodge

LEAN SCUM

Spoiler: iama (rep. ika)

7, 48: Typical RVS stuff.
49: takes Pod into consideration.
52: typical awkward "these days are slower round these parts" post

ive seen rms playstyle before. on our homesite. i feel like hes doing the same thing. last time, he were neutral though. i have to mule this over. ill prob be back with a conclusion when i think aobut it

Shows an attempt to figure out RM. Not pictured: attempts to figure out anyone else (but for pondering over Pod previously)

145: replace out, not alignment indicative
196: iama's catchup post. SO MUCH ANALYSIS. Granting that effort is not indicative of alignment, these thoughts still look Town to me.
207: I like the encouragement to emerald, though that's neither here nor there.
211, 213: pursuing a line of questioning with Boro over Pod. (Side note: Boro did not finish at the time) Line of questioning good as Boro's point absolutely needed looking at. (pursues further in 262, Boro explained, pursues further again in 265)
223: questions Pod's vote switch in the absence of new content from LM. I like.
253: examines Boro's lack of consistency
Yeahhhh basically all iama's posts are towny.

TOWN

Spoiler: TACO

Greeting Citizens of MafiaScums.net! I come in peace from a different mafia forum! It shall be a pleasure to play with you all!

Oh...welcome I guess? You should have played a newbie game first.
Also you're too happy for me...

But back on topic, it seems like something you'd only say to gain trust or make people think you're inexperienced so it smells scum to me...
VOTE: Powerofdeath

I think someone said this later, but saying you've played mafia before is the exact opposite of being inexperienced. Which makes this look like a contrived excuse to move a vote.

I gave my reasons for a lynch. If you can't argue against them then you're not helping the town.

Then again, this is equally ridiculous.

But form what I can see my scum list is looking like this:
Powerofdeath
RationalMadman
LeMidget

What a coincidence that these three were picked: the top wagon, the second wagon, and the one that was drawing some negative attention besides RM.

119: spends a ridiculous amount of time focusing on RM
162: "the ragequit makes me think he wasn't Scum" VS 279: "he always acts like that"
245: unvote looks too reactive for my tastes

LEAN SCUM

Yeah, so more ISOs didn't happen today because reasons. I was going to wait and post them all at once but I see deadline is looming so I don't want to be caught short here.

[goodmorning]

Prelim reads on the rest of the players include townreads on Khan, LM, and leans on Pod, anorway, and emerald.
Scumleans include Boro and Zekrom.
All others haven't made enough of an impression thus far.

Speaking of which,

Vote: Boro

[YuniChikako]

Oooohhh, forgot about that deadline. Also, why is it the one time I do a thing, only one person is here to react to it. Either that or everyone else saw through it. I was having dreams of how brilliant my idea was, of how awesome it was going to be, and then the game starts moving slow.
Well, it did further assure me of one thing.
VOTE: BoroPhil
I'll post my evaluation of him that gave me this read later. Though looking at 294 again should help a little until then.

[JerryArr]

Belisarius replaces LeMidget.

[iamausername]

i don't know what the hell Yuni is doing but i don't think i like it. i do know what the hell pod is doing, and i know i don't like it.

not on board with this BoroPhil wagon, he's making more of a genuine effort than p. much anyone else in this game. only reason i see scum bothering when there's this level of lurkery is a partner in danger of lynching, in which case, let's not put the cart before the horse, yeah?

[Belisarius]

Hi. I haven't read shit.

People voting me: Why are you communists?

[Kublai Khan]

Been sick the past few days. Gimme a few hours to re-collect my thoguths.

[goodmorning]

not on board with this BoroPhil wagon, he's making more of a genuine effort than p. much anyone else in this game. only reason i see scum bothering when there's this level of lurkery is a partner in danger of lynching, in which case, let's not put the cart before the horse, yeah?

1. Effort is not indicative of alignment, as I am so fond of saying.
2. I see not effort but a series of unsupportable positions.
3. Why would Scum want the lurkers lynched today? How would they achieve such a lynch?
4. I don't even know how you drew that last conclusion.

Hi. I haven't read shit.

People voting me: Why are you communists?

BELI <3

[Belisarius]

GM!

And voting Boro at that.

Brings back fond memories of that hilarious cannibal game.

Let's do that again, except for town this time.

[Belisarius]

Preliminary readthrough done; I'm trying to get my head into the game before deadline but it's hard.

Intuitively, I'm liking what I saw from Mikotomakotowhatever, so I've a tentative townread on Z-person, and I'm keeping my predecessor's vote.

[iamausername]

3. Why would Scum want the lurkers lynched today? How would they achieve such a lynch?

i think you've misinterpreted; i'm not saying scum want to lynch lurkers, i'm saying, with the amount that everybody else is lurking, i wouldn't expect scum to be as much above the average posting level as Boro has been, unless he has a vested interest in driving the lynch away from where it is currently headed.