PokeOcalypse - {GAME COMPLETE}

[Lord Mhork]

Yay!

[JJcoolPants]

osry

[orcinus_theoriginal]

stop betting on me i suck

[JJcoolPants]

in other news, black pawn now has 2 pokemon that scare me immensely

[orcinus_theoriginal]

axxle is the giant threat here

like i actually shit you not. look at his picks. these aren't the picks of someone who doesn't know what he's doing

[Axxle]

I'm picking purely based on tierlists that anyone can find on the internet.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

which makes you more of a threat than most

esp. considering your challenge performance

[JJcoolPants]

wait, so are all moves on showdown open? or do level-specific ones matter (I mean, after all you can get any move they would learn later through breeding)

[Candillan]

DrizzleSwim isn't banned in GenVI, ooh~

[JJcoolPants]

wait, so are all moves on showdown open? or do level-specific ones matter (I mean, after all you can get any move they would learn later through breeding)

pls teambuilding is hard without this clarification <3

[BlackPawn14]

I totally didn't miss out on 2nd place by only 3 seconds.
also holy shit how did Mhork make that thing under 6 minutes O.O
*waits for anything on my team to evolve already*

[Lord Mhork]

Practice makes perfect, BP

[CuddlyCaucasian]

All moves except level-specific moves are open.

[Lord Mhork]

I disagree with this decision, but, because I'm not an asshole, I'm not going to bitch you out for it.

[JJcoolPants]

TheBadOne is doing a good job getting a well-balanced gen 1 team

Yiley, when will you be free to battle?

[KingdomAces]

wait, so are all moves on showdown open? or do level-specific ones matter (I mean, after all you can get any move they would learn later through breeding)

Wait you can? IDK how to breed.

And Orc, I bet on you mostly because of your performance in the puzzle challenge in Mass Effect, where you got second. That was the only information that I could think of for gauging performance in puzzle challenges. That said, I'm fine enough with Buizel even if it isn't exactly what I wanted, since Floatzel was by far the most OP Pokemon I've had during story mode of a game that I played.

EDIT: Wait, I posted this before I realized that CC had deleted the recent posts on this topic. My proposal is still open for anyone who cares, but spoilering for people who don't want any part of it.

Spoiler: More HP Debate

In order to attempt to stop this debate about HP, being the only one affected at this point, I'll propose an alternate solution.

I will submit a moveset for Froakie now, and only be allowed change it when it evolves to Frogadier, when I will submit a different moveset which I will keep for the rest of the game.

I believe that this removes the problems that people are having with Protean in this format. Note that I already know what these two movesets are, the one with Froakie will have a HP of a fixed type that I will not change, and after that it won't have HP at all.

Sorry for having such a broken Pokemon in this format.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I disagree with this decision, but, because I'm not an asshole, I'm not going to bitch you out for it.

oh if you have an actual point feel free to bring it up. it would be a pleasant change.

wait, so are all moves on showdown open? or do level-specific ones matter (I mean, after all you can get any move they would learn later through breeding)

Wait you can? IDK how to breed.

And Orc, I bet on you mostly because of your performance in the puzzle challenge in Mass Effect, where you got second. That was the only information that I could think of for gauging performance in puzzle challenges. That said, I'm fine enough with Buizel even if it isn't exactly what I wanted, since Floatzel was by far the most OP Pokemon I've had during story mode of a game that I played.

In order to attempt to stop this debate about HP, being the only one affected at this point, I'll propose an alternate solution.

I will submit a moveset for Froakie now, and only be allowed change it when it evolves to Frogadier, when I will submit a different moveset which I will keep for the rest of the game.

I believe that this removes the problems that people are having with Protean in this format. Note that I already know what these two movesets are, the one with Froakie will have a HP of a fixed type that I will not change, and after that it won't have HP at all.

Sorry for having such a broken Pokemon in this format.

dude just use hp it's not broken at all and personally i think you have around 6 better moves to run

[orcinus_theoriginal]

DrizzleSwim isn't banned in GenVI, ooh~

this is because of changes to weather

[Lord Mhork]

My point is that attacking the mod is wrong and rude. CC was doing what he felt was the best way to ensure maximum enjoyment for ALL parties involved. Shocking, I know, but you aren't the only one playing this game. Game breaking strategies are unfun and unfair. CC though he could solve an issue with the bad. As mod, this is his decision to make. As player, it's your job to bring up any issue respectfully and with deference since it's still ultimately his decision.

I'm upset that you bullied CC to get your way. I feel like it's awful that you're getting rewarded for shitty immature attitudes. However I respect CC's decision and his confidence that his decision will lead to maximum enjoyment for everyone.

[Candillan]

wait, so are all moves on showdown open? or do level-specific ones matter (I mean, after all you can get any move they would learn later through breeding)

Wait you can? IDK how to breed.

And Orc, I bet on you mostly because of your performance in the puzzle challenge in Mass Effect, where you got second. That was the only information that I could think of for gauging performance in puzzle challenges. That said, I'm fine enough with Buizel even if it isn't exactly what I wanted, since Floatzel was by far the most OP Pokemon I've had during story mode of a game that I played.

EDIT: Wait, I posted this before I realized that CC had deleted the recent posts on this topic. My proposal is still open for anyone who cares, but spoilering for people who don't want any part of it.

Spoiler: More HP Debate

In order to attempt to stop this debate about HP, being the only one affected at this point, I'll propose an alternate solution.

I will submit a moveset for Froakie now, and only be allowed change it when it evolves to Frogadier, when I will submit a different moveset which I will keep for the rest of the game.

I believe that this removes the problems that people are having with Protean in this format. Note that I already know what these two movesets are, the one with Froakie will have a HP of a fixed type that I will not change, and after that it won't have HP at all.

Sorry for having such a broken Pokemon in this format.

Except Kecleon has Protean, too. (oops)

Also, I don't know where JJ got that idea from, only TMs/HMs and Egg Moves/Tutor moves can be learned at any level. Some you have to get by leveling up, and those are the ones that aren't allowed yet. Try the Serebii page on the pokemon to see what moves are legal/not for that level.

[CuddlyCaucasian]

This is the last post I'm making about Hidden Power, but my main reasoning for leaving it open for usage is the fact that it isn't banned in Little Cup, plain and simple.

[BlackPawn14]

I agree on that, but we might have to keep an eye on the Protean issue and its development in the official metagame, being a new ability and all. However, such a complex ban doesn't make any sense. Either we ban Protean (maybe for some Pokemon or a level range, for example if Froakie is kicked from LC or something like that) or we keep it as-is.
Now that I think, Kecleon might actually be the most dangerous 'mon so far, with unlimited Protean STAB and massive stats in comparision with everything else...

[orcinus_theoriginal]

My point is that attacking the mod is wrong and rude. CC was doing what he felt was the best way to ensure maximum enjoyment for ALL parties involved. Shocking, I know, but you aren't the only one playing this game. Game breaking strategies are unfun and unfair. CC though he could solve an issue with the bad. As mod, this is his decision to make. As player, it's your job to bring up any issue respectfully and with deference since it's still ultimately his decision.

I'm upset that you bullied CC to get your way. I feel like it's awful that you're getting rewarded for shitty immature attitudes. However I respect CC's decision and his confidence that his decision will lead to maximum enjoyment for everyone.

let's dissect this post

where did i attack the mod?
where did i assume that im the only one playing the game?
how is hidden power an unfun and unfair game breaking strategy?
how did i bully cuddly?
how am i getting rewarded? you do realize that it's not my froakie right

also i was almost hoping that you were going to bring up an actual point instead of ad homming. i should've known better than to expect intelligent discourse from you

[KingdomAces]

Kecleon also has base 60 SpA, so I don't think it actually matters as much on him.

I personally don't want to feel as if I'm cheating, so I will be implementing what I stated I would, even if it's just to make myself feel better. To be honest, I was disgusted with myself when I actually used HP Steel in that one battle even before any of this debate showed up. I don't care if the official ruling is that I can do whatever I want. I

will

be regulating it myself.

If you have any further questions on the matter, PM ME. Do not post in thread. Do not contact CC. I'm sure everyone else is sick of it.

[BlackPawn14]

I don't think the issue needs discussion... but 60 SpA, for such an early stage of the game, is actually a lot.
Also yeah let's drop this discussion and get back to waiting for the next challenge.