Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

[notscience]

Null--|--Town

^right there

[GuyInFreezer]

Also I just wanna say that it was my irl issues that kept me occupied these days.
normally I'm usually in the top 5 posters in games.

Anyway, since no one bothered to take interest in my post re: bussing, I'll just continue on.

BRO's reaction to others are awkward as hell.
And then I found the different treatment on ppl who's pushing him.

When I voted him, he called my vote stupid/scum-motivated.
When nacho voted him, he almost immediately voted him back.

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

[Varsoon]

I want to see how far the BRO-rabbit-hole goes.

[notscience]

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

so bro's scum and nacho might be? :/

[bubbajack8]

bubbajack8, my second question was asking whether you thought that scum-Ghatokaca would come in doing something likely to antagonize the most active poster in the thread.

I don't see why they wouldn't especially if they are saying something they don't like.

VOTE: Jessica

I don't care if you don't have a role PM. You still should contribute something. This reads to me I'm waiting to see what side I'm on, because if I'm scum I need a plan.

Really? No way would I want someone posting content if they haven't read their role PM (in this case due to not having one). What do you think of their posting since then? Seeing as you read page 7.

164 makes me want to scream. 165 is just "I can't read them, so they are town." 168 "Oh hey town again" I hate those kinds of words. 169 has no reasoning to ANY of her reads. 171 "feel ya feel" I still hate I've already stated why I don't like this feeling, meta stuff.

[penguin_alien]

I interpreted BRO's posts as trying to find a way for PRs to leave indicators of their night actions without broadcasting everything to scum. I'm not seeing the scum motivation there.

I don't think he's scum because of the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of his plan. I don't think the effectiveness or the ineffectiveness of his plan is related to his alignment. Why do you disagree?

Are you saying his plan is flawed or that him attacking your hydra's disinterest in breaking the game is scummy?

Not quite. I do think that him attacking F-16's disinterest in breaking the game after I showed up and starting pushing him is scummy, though.

In my experience BRO's the type of player who likes to take advantage of mechanics. I think scum-BRO could come up with a way to lead town down the garden path in a plan of action.

I'm also not seeing that events went down the way you're saying. F-16 came into the thread Friday night with his statements, you came in early Saturday morning, BRO wasn't posting again until after you'd both posted. It's not like he posted, ignoring F-16's statements, and then you attacked him, at which point he circled back to making a big deal out of something he'd ignored.

Ghatokaca, either head, any thoughts on Jessica? Especially in light of their BRO town read?

bubbajack8, my second question was asking whether you thought that scum-Ghatokaca would come in doing something likely to antagonize the most active poster in the thread.

I don't see why they wouldn't especially if they are saying something they don't like.

So you think Ghatokaca didn't like GiF planning?

Jessica, 169 has zero explanations except coming in halfway through the game day and putting down a venge-vote. Can you elaborate on your stances on BRO and Ghatokaca? And if you have notscience insight, that'd be useful.

[Jessica]

Alright I'll be here for quite a while so I'm open to questions I'll try to answer as much because I might just go ahead and take a nap if my games don't start picking up in activity.

@Penguin
My hydra partner discussed this briefly yesterday, I'd love to just copypaste or discussion to make it simpler for everyone but let me dwell into reasoning behind our reads.

Anyways, my partner was scumreading bro because their explanation was scum wouldn't want to push for something that can potentially out them. I thought he was town because one, scum wouldn't openly object to something that would hinder town progress, which is what led me to the assumption that he's a bit new to the setup. To be honest, I was confused at why the massclaim was brought up so early and would've said no, but I did the do and asked why a massclaim is viable in this current setup. I'm still a bit foggy on what happens with massive Hider chains but I'll catch up sooner or later because Varsoon has been explaining (which I'll read over again soon)

So that's why BRO looks town to me, cautiousness looks like he's being naive and somewhat-new to the theme. Also, he brought up a Tracker from a different game where there was a hider as well, but this is most certainly not comparable to that.

Err Ghatokaca was more of a gutread for me considering he's pushing pretty weirdly on BRO plus the overall tone of his posts are pretty bad. I think that Marquis played games with them before and idk meta or whatever I ask to ask them!

Notscience I've played one game before. In that specific game he defended the fuck out of a scummy player which resulted in me being mislynched day 1. That same player he defended (at the same time tunneled me for going for that player) ended up flipping scum. I'm a bit upset about that! But the thing with that game was his post style and mannerism is completely off. I'm not sure he expected our sub-in but I don't see town notscience in this game.

[Jessica]

Err forgot to tag but

- H.

[notscience]

Baseline of one game from a while ago

Wat

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Doesn't make you not-scum

[GuyInFreezer]

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

so bro's scum and nacho might be? :/

That's my opinion.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also at this point, Jessica up, penguin up.

[bubbajack8]

@Penguin: Yeah. Scum would want to control the game. Scum sees town controlling the game and tries to take it away. Makes sense


Penguin up?

[Varsoon]

Power uuuuup~

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-3

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

BROseidon (3): Ghatokaca, Varsoon, notscience (L-2)
Ghatokaca (3): Xayzeck, GuyInFreezer, Broseidon (L-2)
notscience (1): Jessica (l-4)
Jessica (1): bubbajack8 (L-4)

Not voting (1): penguin_alien

Deadline is in: (expired on 2014-02-14 19:15:48)

24 hours was added to the deadline to compensate for replacement.

Post #2 has been edited to include Rule 11, which clarifies hider chain mechanics.

[Ghatokaca]

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

so it's bro voting time amirite

[Ghatokaca]

So that's why BRO looks town to me, cautiousness looks like he's being naive and somewhat-new to the theme.

[Ghatokaca]

In my experience BRO's the type of player who likes to take advantage of mechanics. I think scum-BRO could come up with a way to lead town down the garden path in a plan of action.

i don't think that he's able to snow this playerlist very easily and i'm not really sure risking it is worth it

[notscience]

GIF why are you voting Nacho if you think Bro is scum?

it could put him at L-1

[Marquis]

Notscience is Nottown

His town meta is more entertaining and less "time to get to work"

[Marquis]

Hannah quote that stuff for me I'm on my phone

[GuyInFreezer]

GIF why are you voting Nacho if you think Bro is scum?

it could put him at L-1

I thought we all knew the reason.

[GuyInFreezer]

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

so it's bro voting time amirite

Maybe if I was convinced enough that you're not scum bussing BRO.

[GuyInFreezer]

What did you learn from your exchange with notsci?

[Cabd]

Absolutely nothing here.