Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-3 (Reposted on a pagetop)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

BROseidon (3): Ghatokaca, Varsoon, notscience (L-2)
Ghatokaca (3): Xayzeck, GuyInFreezer, Broseidon (L-2)
notscience (1): Jessica (l-4)
Jessica (1): bubbajack8 (L-4)

Not voting (1): penguin_alien

Deadline is in: (expired on 2014-02-14 19:15:48)

24 hours were added to the deadline to compensate for replacement the first time I posted this.

Post #2 was edited to include Rule 11, which clarifies hider chain mechanics.

[GuyInFreezer]

I just like tutlez

So do I.

[Jessica]

Notscience is Nottown

His town meta is more entertaining and less "time to get to work"

Hannah quote that stuff for me I'm on my phone

[notscience]

If you guys are actually going to push me at least make it fun

Not just "oh this isn't his town meta which we have experience of many many many games"

[Jessica]

That's what you get when you let your heart win.

Woah

- H.

[GuyInFreezer]

Updated readlist.

Town
GIF (obvtown ♫), Varsoon (His #18 says it all, plus the "stubborness")

Townish
bubbajack8 (typical town-bubba so far, but it's not enough to give him a full townread yet. Why is this typical town-bubba? It's because of the Metamorphically Enhanced Transgalactic Astronaut. A.K.A. It didn't change.)

Null-Town
- Xayzeck (#44. I just like the mindset there. Of course, it's easy to fake but hey it's only page 4 and it's enough to put him in null-town right now. Also, I wish he was more active.

- penguin_alien (The lingering thoughts of "this girl is just parroting stuffs" is not leaving my minds, to be quite honest. I guess this read is more of a relational read.)

- Jessica (Kat just outright screaming "GIF IS NULL EVEN THOUGH HE'S POSTY" was just . The way they call notsci scum is also but that's not necessarily scummy. Otherwise, I kinda like their posts.)

Null
- notscience (meh.)

Not sorted yet
- Ghatokaca (This is probably because I feel like being stubborn but oh well. This is probably gonna linger a bit more until I'm quite convinced that he's not bussing BRO.)

Scummy
- BROseidon ([insert setup spec fail by me here] Now all I have on him is some minor stuff like "meh I don't like how he's outright trying to discourage my varsoon townread". Added to this, his way of discrediting and BoPing sucks, and now he disappeared.)
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[notscience]

That's what you get when you let your heart win.

Woah

- H.

I seriously am pissed off now because I just got paramore out of my head

>.>

Bite me, GIf

[Xayzeck]

lol yeah I wish I was more active too but the last few pages seem to keep talking about meta. Not really scumhunting because everybody looks town (as usual) but I'll read through some ISOs later today and give some of my reads.

[BROseidon]

When I voted him, he called my vote stupid/scum-motivated.
When nacho voted him, he almost immediately voted him back.

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

Why would I panic at Nacho and not at you?

Why aren't you considering different gamestates in when you both voted me?

[BROseidon]

F-16 also said "setup discussion is boring". He didn't say shit about actual theory, so calling his actual theory bullshit when none was presented is dumb.

Calling it boring is implicitly bad theory game.

Opens and Semi-Opens are made to be broken. Especially ones with hiders.

[BROseidon]

I don't think he's scum because of the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of his plan. I don't think the effectiveness or the ineffectiveness of his plan is related to his alignment. Why do you disagree?

Why would scum-me endeavor to break a setup this ornate?

[BROseidon]

It's sad that Nacho/F-16 don't have a real case on me and are using their presence to get me mislynched.

It's fucking pathetic.

[GuyInFreezer]

When I voted him, he called my vote stupid/scum-motivated.
When nacho voted him, he almost immediately voted him back.

So I think that's either nacho/BRO crossbussing or BRO panicked at nacho scumreading him early.

Why would I panic at Nacho and not at you?

Why aren't you considering different gamestates in when you both voted me?

Maybe because of our different skill level? Or it could be because of the bus mode.

Game state's not much relevant regards to that bc what I looked was the "reaction to suspicion," which is even with the different game state, suspicion is still suspicion and vote is still a vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually, game state was basically same: both votes came out of nowhere and was unexplained.
There COULD be a scenario where Bro found nacho's 83 scummy hence the vote, but then if he did, he would've voted him right there. Instead, the vote came for reason after post 83. The only post between that and his cote is nacho's vote on BRO with no reasoning.
Therefore, the vote on nacho classifies as the same reaction to my vote on him.

Now comparing some more reactions.
When I voted him, he called my vote either dumb (implying the possibility of town-me) or scum-motivated (speaking of which, hello panic)
When nacho voted him, he simply went full omgus vote on him with a implication of "this dude can't be town."
Hence my comment on interaction earlier.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't think he's scum because of the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of his plan. I don't think the effectiveness or the ineffectiveness of his plan is related to his alignment. Why do you disagree?

Why would scum-me endeavor to break a setup this ornate?

To be crude, did you break the setup? No.
Then it classifies as "trying to break the setup."

Is there scum endeavor to "try to break the setup?" Sure. To look town. All you have to do is "fail" and boom.

So until the setup is 100% broken with the plan, all the speaks of breaking setup is flat-out null.

[GuyInFreezer]

That's what you get when you let your heart win.

Woah

- H.

I seriously am pissed off now because I just got paramore out of my head

>.>

Bite me, GIf

Tell me more about it.

[Varsoon]

Get it get it get it

[GuyInFreezer]

And I think it's about time we get a readlist out of BRO.

[Varsoon]

And I think it's about time we get a readlist out of BRO.

[GuyInFreezer]

You too.
So far you spent too much time talking about setup.

[GuyInFreezer]

It's sad that Nacho/F-16 don't have a real case on me and are using their presence to get me mislynched.

It's fucking pathetic.

Well you don't have a case on them except for basically "lol you're playing bad" which is... wait it's not even a case.

[GuyInFreezer]

Added to that, "you have no case on me" just look like a bluffing to me and even if it isn't, it's a personal opinion at best.

I remember at least two reasons why ghaky stated why BRO is scum right on top of my head:

1. Needless prevention of my townread on varsoon
2. Reaction to my vote.

Of course, he could say that "that's not even a case and is utter bullshit", but the trap is that it's just a personal opinion, not a proven facts.

Accusation stands until it ks rebutted, and I haven't seen any rebuttal other than "you are full of shit."

[notscience]

More about what

[Varsoon]

I spent an acceptable amount of time developing the optimal strategy. :3

penguin_alien - Null-town, lacks the usual sketchiness I see from the slot as scum. Hasn't contributed enough for me to solid-read.
Xayzeck - Null-scum. Needs to get in the game. Feels distant.
GuyInFreezer - Null. Paranoid about how quick GiF is to read me without strident interaction. GiF has been really tripping me out in the last few games we've been in.
Varsoon - Town.
BROseidon - Scum. Feels dodgy and hasn't latched on to anyone like I'm used to town-BRO.
bubbajack8 - Null-scum. No presence. Feels like he's avoiding attention.
Ghatokaca - Town. Interactions are geniune and read strong to me.
notscience - Null. Impossible for me to read. Don't like recent play.
Jessica - Scum. Don't like any interaction from this slot. Seems contrived.

List Form:
TOWN
Varsoon
Ghato
Penguin
GiF
Notsci
Xay
Bubba
Jessica
BRO
SCUM

I think that covers it.

[Varsoon]

I spent an acceptable amount of time developing the optimal strategy. :3

penguin_alien - Null-town, lacks the usual sketchiness I see from the slot as scum. Hasn't contributed enough for me to solid-read.
Xayzeck - Null-scum. Needs to get in the game. Feels distant.
GuyInFreezer - Null. Paranoid about how quick GiF is to read me without strident interaction. GiF has been really tripping me out in the last few games we've been in.
Varsoon - Town.
BROseidon - Scum. Feels dodgy and hasn't latched on to anyone like I'm used to town-BRO.
bubbajack8 - Null-scum. No presence. Feels like he's avoiding attention.
Ghatokaca - Town. Interactions are geniune and read strong to me.
notscience - Null. Impossible for me to read. Don't like recent play.
Jessica - Scum. Don't like any interaction from this slot. Seems contrived.

List Form:
TOWN
Varsoon
Ghato
Penguin
GiF
Notsci
Xay
Bubba
Jessica
BRO
SCUM

I think that covers it.