Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

[Cabd]

Votecount 1-4 (Unchanged)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch or no lynch.

BROseidon (3): Ghatokaca, Varsoon, notscience (L-2)
Ghatokaca (3): Xayzeck, GuyInFreezer, Broseidon (L-2)

notscience (1): Jessica (l-4)
Jessica (1): bubbajack8 (L-4)

Not voting (1): penguin_alien

Deadline is in: (expired on 2014-02-14 19:15:48)

[penguin_alien]

Townish

bubbajack8 (typical town-bubba so far, but it's not enough to give him a full townread yet. Why is this typical town-bubba? It's because of the Metamorphically Enhanced Transgalactic Astronaut. A.K.A. It didn't change.)

Null-Town

- Jessica (Kat just outright screaming "GIF IS NULL EVEN THOUGH HE'S POSTY" was just . The way they call notsci scum is also but that's not necessarily scummy. Otherwise, I kinda like their posts.)

Can you talk to me about bubba? I found his reasons to be voting Jessica good, but it was the best thing I recall from his play.

What do you like about Jessica? I'd want to see them wagoned if I didn't think we need to sort Ghatokaca-BRO here, actually.

In that vein,

In my experience BRO's the type of player who likes to take advantage of mechanics. I think scum-BRO could come up with a way to lead town down the garden path in a plan of action.

i don't think that he's able to snow this playerlist very easily and i'm not really sure risking it is worth it

Aside from you and GiF, I'm not sure who he'd be afraid of, and GiF's a guess. And no, I'm not being disingenuous by leaving myself off that list, given how thoroughly BRO snookered me in NY 165 and would have in bork's Mini Touhou.

What about the issue of the order of his engaging with you and F-16?

BRO, stepping back from their attack on you, if you're town, what else that's gone down so far is useful?

P-edit: Varsoon, what about notscience has bugged you? That you don't like his recent play implies that the null read is where he slipped to after being somewhat of a town read.

Also, have you played with scum-me? I don't remember any such games, but I don't always remember hydras I play with.

[Varsoon]

I thought you were scum against me awhile ago. Maybe I'm trippin'.

As for Notsci, recent stuff feels less genuine to me. It's mostly a gut-null. Players like that are hard for me to read.

[Jessica]

Explain how Ghato's interactions are good and look town. I don't see it.

Also Varsoon, how

dare

you and your hypocrisy.

Your take on notscience

notscience - Null. Impossible for me to read.

Don't like recent play.

My reaction towards notscience was generally having an off vibe with his posts, not acting the way I've expected him to act. His defense was "oh but you only played one game with me." Err, so fucking what? It's more of an attitude tell where he just denies the meta read and conveniently ducks out of accusation with non-genuine jabs like this.

My read on GiF is like every other stance I have on any other games. I've argued this with Marquis that just because he has the highest postcount and seems have a fetish with the Submit button doesn't mean he's conf town. I don't know how sure they read them but I'm saying that they're null because stuff!

Again, you

As for Notsci, recent stuff feels less genuine to me.

It's mostly a gut-null. Players like that are hard for me to read.

[Jessica]

- H.

[Varsoon]

:3

Wanted to see your reaction to me calling you scum.
You're really more around the null-scum area, although your response was pretty solid.
Town-minded justifications, and a response that lacked the typical venom/malice/attempt at casting me down that I usually get from scum-reading scum-players.

I'm really iffy about this playerbase. The problem is that all you guys are good, and you've all fooled me at one point in the past. Either that or I don't know you at all and the input here isn't substantive enough for me to really dig in.

[Varsoon]

TL;DR - It's a list of nulls, I'm a shit.

[Varsoon]

How can someone win if winning means that someone loses?

[Jessica]

:3

Wanted to see your reaction to me calling you scum.
You're really more around the null-scum area, although your response was pretty solid.
Town-minded justifications, and a response that lacked the typical venom/malice/attempt at casting me down that I usually get from scum-reading scum-players.

I'm really iffy about this playerbase. The problem is that all you guys are good, and you've all fooled me at one point in the past. Either that or I don't know you at all and the input here isn't substantive enough for me to really dig in.

i like being insatiably annoying/unworkable as town sooooooooooooooooo idk

bring on the self-meta

[Jessica]

- Jessica (Kat just outright screaming "GIF IS NULL EVEN THOUGH HE'S POSTY" was just . The way they call notsci scum is also but that's not necessarily scummy. Otherwise, I kinda like their posts.)

Null
- notscience (meh.)

1 i think you're town gif don't worry

2 notscience is scum please vote him i need you and your legion of towniness

[Jessica]

Null
- notscience (meh.)

Not sorted yet
- Ghatokaca (This is probably because I feel like being stubborn but oh well. This is probably gonna linger a bit more until I'm quite convinced that he's not bussing BRO.)

btw i still don't get the difference in categories/assignment here

[Jessica]

TL;DR - It's a list of nulls, I'm a shit.

i like this you're good you're town

[Jessica]

I thought you were scum against me awhile ago. Maybe I'm trippin'.

As for Notsci, recent stuff feels less genuine to me. It's mostly a gut-null. Players like that are hard for me to read.

YES EXACTLY HE'S NOT GENUINE LET'S LYNCH HIM JAJAJAJAJAJA

[Jessica]

btw that was not sarcastic as sarcastic as i like to be

- m

[Xayzeck]

A couple of thoughts I'd put out there before I head off. I'm a little busier now that's school started, so I may not always have time to do longer posts, but I'll always be reading.

Moving on.

I'm not sure how I feel about NS being scum just because his posts are off.

Then again, I haven't played with him ever, but just because his posts aren't what you expect of his townself doesn't mean he's scum. Varsoon did say he's been off(or something) in his recent games, so it could very well be a change in play style.

NS don't really have posts that strike me as towny, with the exception of 202 where he made some efforts to contribute to town. But other than that everything he's posted has been kinda bleh. I wouldn't mind lynching him.

Varsoon's town for me. After he brought up the no hiding thing and all the thought he put into set up, I'm pretty confident he's town. There's no scum-motivation in doing that. Strongest townread so far.

Penguin's town for me too. More recent posts have a lot more content, but doesn't post a lot. Enough for me to say he's towny though.

bubba needs to post more.

The other half of the player list I'm not really sure. I'll have to go through their posts soon. For the beginning of the game I felt GiF was towny, but that may be because he's just posting a lot. I'll have to look through his posts again.

Not sure what to think about Bro.

Can't read the hydras for nuts.

[Jessica]

you're nowhere close to my main scumreads atm so is there anything you want to ask that'll make a townread on us easier for you?

[Xayzeck]

Do you agree with Bro and Ghato being the leading wagons?

Don't really have any questions right now, but there'll probably be some tomorrow. Maybe.

@penguin: Why haven't you voted yet?

[Jessica]

no

notsci should be up there too

spread the wealth

[Jessica]

- m - m

[bubbajack8]

I spent an acceptable amount of time developing the optimal strategy. :3

penguin_alien - Null-town, lacks the usual sketchiness I see from the slot as scum. Hasn't contributed enough for me to solid-read.
Xayzeck - Null-scum. Needs to get in the game. Feels distant.
GuyInFreezer - Null. Paranoid about how quick GiF is to read me without strident interaction. GiF has been really tripping me out in the last few games we've been in.
Varsoon - Town.
BROseidon - Scum. Feels dodgy and hasn't latched on to anyone like I'm used to town-BRO.

bbubbajack8 - Null-scum. No presence. Feels like he's avoiding attention.

Ghatokaca - Town. Interactions are geniune and read strong to me.
notscience - Null. Impossible for me to read. Don't like recent play.
Jessica - Scum. Don't like any interaction from this slot. Seems contrived.

List Form:
TOWN
Varsoon
Ghato
Penguin
GiF
Notsci
Xay
Bubba
Jessica
BRO
SCUM

I think that covers it.

You've got to be kidding me right? No presence? Are you KIDDING? I've worked my fucking ass off this game. I've fone some debatable plays and I have NO PRESENCE? WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?

Jessica "Spam posting doesn't make you town" then proceeds to spam post. Way to go.

no

notsci should be up there too

spread the wealth

Why don't you agree they are the leading wagons?

[Jessica]

because i'd prefer to lynch someone i don't have town-doubts about aka notscience

i don't even know how to respond to that other one but isn't it obvious that two different people would have differing opinions on the matter? spam posting doesn't make you town sure but spam posting sure as hell shouldn't make you read someone any scummier in any way

- m

[bubbajack8]

The spam posting isn't what the read is about. It's about the hypocrisy.

[Jessica]

???????????????????????

i don't care if it bothers my other head, if i do it then i'm still doing it

[Jessica]

and just because my other head reads gif as null(scum)/w.e due to that doesn't mean it's affecting my read on him

(also don't give me that "hydras are supposed to consolidate reads" bs, we're working on that but we're arguing over gif so it might take a while)

[GuyInFreezer]

More about what

About that "paramore."

how quick GiF is to read me

I did focus on getting reads fast as possible as I said in the beginning.

Can you talk to me about bubba? I found his reasons to be voting Jessica good, but it was the best thing I recall from his play.

What do you like about Jessica? I'd want to see them wagoned if I didn't think we need to sort Ghatokaca-BRO here, actually.

Regarding bubba, it's just his general posting attitude mixed with meta. (We played qutie a games together outside of this site). Also, this is the meta I have quite a confidence on, so I don't really wanna out the specifics his meta, but one thing I can say is that town bubba tends to get frustrated a lot, has high ego, and strong conviction in general, regardless of what others tell him.

About Jessica, well first of all, I didn't like how some ppl wanted their slot wagoned when Able didn't even confirm his role. Second of all, marquis's posts gives the town-feel.

I've argued this with Marquis that just because he has the highest postcount and seems have a fetish with the Submit button doesn't mean he's conf town.

Something tells me that you haven't been reading my posts

you've fooled me at one point in the past.

Ever since your first game in this site