Micro 295: Cowardly Hider Mafia (Game Over)

[bubbajack8]

EBWOP

Spoiler: Death Post

GUYS ITS....



So sad.

[Varsoon]

So you guys spammed the thread and killed BRO off before I even got to reply to anything. ;_; I copied my post into Word and saved it for today, so here is:

@GiF: You've always been the biggest anomaly for me. You're a strong player, it's tough for me to read you (I almost always default town you), and you've fooled me since I began. You have this intricate knowledge of me (like that one time you said you knew my average times of being online, etc) and I always feel really exposed around you. At first I was like, "So long as GiF townreads me in my town games, I'll know I'm cleared!" but then that quickly changed because I realized you would scum-read me in your scum games if you ever wanted me dead. Between Nacho and Bauss, you've become one of my favorite/most challenging players to play against. I've got to stay on my toes around you, and I feel like it's foolish to ever declare you absolutely scum or absolutely town.

@BRO: So, Ghato and GiF are scum now? D:

@Jessica: I'd be down for a NotSci lynch, but I don't think it'd be as worthwhile as one on another player with more interactions. Still, if it's scum, it's scum.

@Bubba: That's the problem! You've posted things, but when I think about you I'm always like, "What did that guy post?" Maybe I'm just an amnesiac or something. Seriously, though, your ISO doesn't have really hard scum-hunting rolling into its votes and your other comments on the game feel like they don't really put you at risk or anything.



;_;
Now Bubba can't contribute.
But I am happy to see that no one else died! At the very least, I can take pleasure in the chance that maybe everyone listened to me and didn't hide at all!

[Jessica]

We lynch scum, how is that

not

worthwhile.

[penguin_alien]

When you realize I'm town I'll be waiting to chat about the game.

So.

Thoughts on the BRO lynch? Realizing that him putting himself at L-1 couldn't reasonably have been anticipated.

Varsoon, where do you stand on GiF now, seeing as that post is apparently from last day phase?

[Varsoon]

I'm noided as fuck.
I still think Ghato is town, but I don't know how to feel about GiF.

@Jessica: 'cus there's a chance he's not scum and then we get nothing out of it and we're fucked.

[notscience]

I'm really bugged at the L-1 L-0 votes tbh peng. The kill bugs me too.

Nacho/F16 were big proponents of the BRO wagon, do you think eliminating BRO early is something they'd try to do as scum?

[Varsoon]

Probably, since BRO always carries the shit out of his town games. Or, at least, always brags about carrying the shit out of his town games.

[notscience]

Probably, since BRO always carries the shit out of his town games. Or, at least, always brags about carrying the shit out of his town games.

You

I like you

you're town

[Xayzeck]

What I don't get is the night kill. Why would scum kill bubba, when you could kill someone like Varsoon? I don't think people would hide behind bubba, and tbh he wasn't exactly super town.

[Varsoon]

Gotta figure that it's one or more of...
1- Scum figured out he was a VT.
2- He was a threat to Scum.
3- Scum thought people would be hiding behind him.

I think that I was too obvious of a target. With a lot of people town-reading me, it seems like people would avoid hiding behind me because of the danger of me getting shot. Alternatively, if scum are aiming their shots to try to catch hiders, then choosing someone like Bubba (who a hider might try to hide behind in order to soft-cop) makes more sense than choosing someone that's less likely to draw hider attention. Again, this is why I said that hiders shouldn't hide--it denies scum the ability to get multiple kills through kill-strategy.

What bothers me right now are a few things:
BRO dies damning GiF and Ghato. They're both still alive.
I'm left alive--which means my reads are probably shit.
Bubba is killed, which feels like a red herring/killing someone outside of the BRO/GiF/Ghato trinity and outside of the NotSci/Jessica push.

We're too set up for a mislynch, which is why I'm holding my vote close to my chest.

[Xayzeck]

I think scum were expecting the hiders not to hide, since it's pretty established already that hiding only helps scum. And of all the people, bubba?

I don't like how GiF just hammered Bro without hesitation though. Though I doubt scum would do something that dumb, I'll call it scummy.

VOTE: GiF

[Varsoon]

Staying off the GiF wagon, I feel too conflicted about it.
On one hand, I can't trust GiF and the hammer/BRO's last few posts really get to me.
On the other, I'm still alive and I know if I put my vote somewhere, town will likely follow, so I feel like I'm getting duped.

[Xayzeck]

Who's your strongest scumread?

[Varsoon]

NotScience.

[Xayzeck]

Last I heard you said he was null. What changed that?

Though his posts have been very bleh.

[Varsoon]

Yesterday Jessica was pushing for a NotSci lynch, and the game throttled into the BRO lynch instead.
Today, NotScience is town-reading me and both the people that BRO damned while dying are both alive.
Feels like I'm being set up to push on GiF (or Ghato, even) and diverted from the yesterday-building wagon on NotSci.
Of course, that all could be a ruse, too, and maybe that's why NotScience was left alive, because there were people FoS'ing him at the end of D1.
Which is why, despite him being my highest scum-read, I'm hesitant.
Pretty much all my reads are/were nulls ;_;

[Varsoon]

It really bothers me that all the strongest town players are left alive and all the most FoS'd players of yesterday were also left alive.
There's something I'm missing. I guess I'll stare at the VCs for awhile.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't like how GiF just hammered Bro without hesitation though. Though I doubt scum would do something that dumb, I'll call it scummy.

First of all, he dared me, so I called his bluff.
Also if you doubt that scum would do such "dumb" thing... [insert obvious conclusion here]

[Varsoon]

Scum'll do anything. That's how they win. The second you're like, "Oh man, scum wouldn't do that", that's when you're letting scum hide behind reason and logic.


GiF, can you give me some input on things that are not-BRO?

[GuyInFreezer]

I was pointing out the flaw in his logic. The one about "that's what scum wouldn't do" was from Xay, not me.

Also, I was readjusting my readlist right now anyway so wait a bit.

[Varsoon]

I was adding onto that. :3


<3
Will wait.

[GuyInFreezer]

Updated readlist.

Town
GIF (obvtown ♫),

BROseidon

,

bubbajack8

Varsoon (His #18 says it all, plus the "stubborness")

Townish
- notscience (For now. This will change based on his posts in the future.)
- Ghato (At least the paranoia about him being with scum with BRO is gone.)

Null (Now called PoE list, in order of town -> scum)

- penguin_alien (The lingering thoughts of "this girl is just parroting stuffs" is not leaving my minds, to be quite honest. I guess this read is more of a relational read.)

- Jessica (Kat just outright screaming "GIF IS NULL EVEN THOUGH HE'S POSTY" was just . The way they call notsci scum is also but that's not necessarily scummy. Otherwise, I kinda like their posts.)

- Xayzeck (#44. I just like the mindset there. Of course, it's easy to fake but hey it's only page 4 and it's enough to put him in null-town right now -> It's not enough now to put him in townpile anymore. Also, I wish he was more active.

[GuyInFreezer]

And I don't like my readlist, because my readlist is calling Xay/Jessica scumteam and... I don't like Jessica as scum right now.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh wait. The name switched. Hold on a sec.

Updated readlist.

Town
GIF (obvtown ♫), BROseidon, bubbajack8 Varsoon (His #18 says it all, plus the "stubborness")

Townish
- notscience (For now. This will change based on his posts in the future.)
- penguin_alien (The lingering thoughts of "this girl is just parroting stuffs" is not leaving my minds, to be quite honest. I guess this read is more of a relational read.)

Null (Now called PoE list, in order of town -> scum)

- Ghato (At least the paranoia about him being with scum with BRO is gone.)

- Jessica (Kat just outright screaming "GIF IS NULL EVEN THOUGH HE'S POSTY" was just . The way they call notsci scum is also but that's not necessarily scummy. Otherwise, I kinda like their posts.)

- Xayzeck (#44. I just like the mindset there. Of course, it's easy to fake but hey it's only page 4 and it's enough to put him in null-town right now -> It's not enough now to put him in townpile anymore. Also, I wish he was more active.

There you go.

[Varsoon]

Thoughts on the outburst of votes on daystart?
What makes you think Ghato wasn't just scum destroying BRO on D1?
How do I know you're the real GiF?
You can't fake-claim Jailkeeper, either. :3