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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:50 am

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No, I didn't have to worry about the doctor or the tracker because I'm a vt. I was incredibly surprised to see that the tracker died instead of the doctor.

And yes, I am pleading with her to re-think the game. If she votes to lynch me, then town loses the game. She said she was leaning that way.
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:18 am

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I feel like I owe an apology to the town; I've been so indecisive and paranoid these last days.

KK, you're doing a pretty good job at swaying me. I'm not sold on Drake yet, but you did change my opinion.
And looking at your ISO, you do have some towntells.

Drake's post 724 is
bad
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Starting from now, I'm going to treat every single of your posts that contains confirmation bias (or posts with obviously flawed logic, or basically anything that gives scum an advantage) as a scumtell.
Not
one
of his posts this day was decent. He just continues to hilariously try to frame KK by using some random reasoning. It feels less like "I have X and Y evidence about KK and therefore want to lynch him" and more like "I want to lynch KK and therefore I'm gonna think of a reason to do so".

I need to think about it a little more, but I
promise
I will have a definitive answer by tomorrow. Consider my pseudo-vote on Drake.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:29 pm

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Finally went back through the game and looked at both KK and Drake, as well as how Bert interacted with them. And the conclusion I've come to is that Drake is our last scum.

I can show all my work if I have to, but here's the short version:

In order for KK to be scum, he would have had to have been playing a very long, very elaborate gambit with us all the way back since Day 2. He acts exactly the way town would in Twilight after thinking he's lynched, immediately bounces back with some long reads but tells town to lynch him anyway to be safe, tries to reason with TSO and I on Day 3 before very begrudgingly giving in, and has spent this day patiently waiting things out. That's not to say scum!Kublai could not have done all those things, but it would not have been optimal play, especially the Day 3 stuff. He takes an amount of time to come to conclusions that is too patient and spread out to be fake, in my opinion.

Drake, on the other hand, comes off much better early on, where I can attribute most of his blunders to newness. But he does defend Bert a little bit on Day 1, and after Bert's dead, he's very flaily, lurking until the end of Day 3, hammering Picard, going rabid for Zekrom's lynch, and now grabbing on any thread of an argument against KK that he can. Again, it's possible this could be new-town play, but I think in the aggregate it adds up to a convincing argument that he's our scum.

My pseudo-vote is firmly on Drake, and I'm ready to make it a real vote when town's ready.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:43 am

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I think we're ready to lynch Drake.
I don't think I could be more convinced with the lynch than I am right now, so... let's do this.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:44 am

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Fingers crossed.

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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:20 pm

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Well, im not scum.

Aisa, any last doubts about quill?
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:26 pm

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In post 702, Malakittens wrote:
4.02
With Four alive it takes 3 votes to lynch


Voting:


*Quill -
*Drake Crusader - Aisa, Quill, [2] [L-1]
*Aisa -
*Kublai Khan -

Not Voting:
Drake Crusader, Kublai Khan [2]


CountdownsDay 4 ends in (expired on 2014-02-16 22:25:00)
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:52 pm

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Eh.. Maybe I'm just overly paranoid.

Time to end it.

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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:09 am

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:/
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:13 am

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Final VC of Day 4
With Four alive it takes 3 votes to lynch


Voting:


*Quill -
*Drake Crusader - Aisa, Quill, [2] [L-1]
*Aisa -
*Kublai Khan -

Not Voting:
Drake Crusader, Kublai Khan [2]


CountdownsDay 4 ends in (expired on 2014-02-16 22:25:00)


Drake Crusader was lynched. He was a Mafia Goon.

This means town has won!

Quill, Aisa, Kublai Khan were all Vanilla Townies.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:02 am

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Fucking hell.
I want to offer you all an apology.

That was so fucking STUPID of me that I actually punched a wall and drew blood with my rage.

You guys seriously pulled it out.

Aisa and Quill. Excellent.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:04 am

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Well, that's a relief. GG, y'all. Sorry for tunneling in on Zekrom on Day 3; we could have been out of here a lot sooner if we'd just listened to KK.

And Kublai, thanks for keeping my brain intact by not having been playing an elaborate mind game with us ever since we almost lynched you on Day 2.
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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:24 pm

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WHEW.
Thank you all for an excellent first game back on the site!
That was kind of a nail-biter after T S O didn't protect me!
An excellent town besides a couple blunders ;)
Glad you guys managed to work things out and find the last scum.
Cheers and good luck in all your future games!
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:25 pm

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Congratulations, Town! ;)

Drake, great effort from you in a dire situation I left you in.

Thanks everyone for the game!!! <3
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:21 am

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:D
I'm glad we made the right choice at the end.
In post 69, T S O wrote:Aisa, are you an alt?
I actually have another account, with which I played a couple games some months ago.
I replaced out from my first game (in a way I'm not really proud of) because I was the main suspect D1.
I then joined a second game, from which I replaced out too.
I don't think I'm ever going to use that old account again.

...So I guess I'm technically an alt :P
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:07 am

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I can relate with you about the alt thing and being ashamed about replacing out on an old acc

I do think town played well. :)

T S O nailed me D1 too.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:25 am

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you just seemed a bit off, Bert, but it was never concrete enough until you jumped on me. That was when I knew - the transition was completely fake.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:07 am

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Good game mates! Nice playing with you all!
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:38 am

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I can't believe it took you that long to kill him after that hammer on me D1, I thought for sure he woulda been a quicklynch on D2
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:06 am

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yeah
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:09 am

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In post 625, Zekrom25 wrote:Drake Crusader is the major target as long as Drake is alive you generally lose
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:10 am

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why would you keep Drake alive for so long ?
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:11 am

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good game well played everyone
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:48 am

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You have no idea of just how paranoid I was D4. I ended up finding an excuse for every single scummy action Drake ever did.
I also didn't really think Bert was scummy, I thought he had a reason for acting in the way he did. What convinced me that the lynch was at least viable was when he contradicted himself in I-don't-remember-which post, but I still had no idea of what he would flip.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:47 am

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why did i get lynched ?

we could have won day 3

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