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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:15 am

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building a dagon will in just about any situation on any hero will likely get you yelled @ btw, even when its not a bad choice.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:20 am

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the things you build on qop past treads is pretty much entirely situational though and she has a lot of flexibility in that regard. ~generally~ though: orchid first is usually a safe bet, linkens can be useful, aghs can be very useful as a second item, and sheep is almost always a good pickup when you can afford the buildup.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:21 am

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In post 1648, Katsuki wrote:She became vegetable maiden, sadly.

She's good for learning positioning though, a friend of mine played a ton of CM when he first started, which helped a lot.
i dont think the int nerf is that big a deal for players who dont know how to make the most out of cm, imo
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:21 am

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In post 1648, Katsuki wrote:She became vegetable maiden, sadly.

She's good for learning positioning though, a friend of mine played a ton of CM when he first started, which helped a lot.
i dont think the int nerf is that big a deal for players who dont know how to make the most out of cm, imo
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:21 pm

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I must say I had more fun with Orchid than I ever did with Dagon.
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:24 pm

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I like desolator

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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:28 pm

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Desolator is nice
Orchid is even better
thank you for telling me this item existed

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then pressing 3 for orchid then mashing req and watching them disappear
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:55 pm

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Decided to learn Invoker. Tried both Quas/Wex and Exort - preferring Q/W so far. Any tips?
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:55 pm

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Sadly crystal maiden int nerf is actually pretty noticable if you're familiar with the hero. She still has amazing click cc and aura so she's still a great learner champ.

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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:59 pm

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I keep trying to play ward bitch sandking but my opponents all appear to be clownies who are unfamiliar with the song of my people and I end up snowballing to the point that I'm Blink Dagger, Veil of Discord Sandking walking around the map receiving free kills.
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:40 pm

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That's pretty hot

Crystal Maiden still rocks. Int hurt her jungling/lane harrassment a wee bit I guess.
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:26 pm

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She barely has enoguh mana for her two spells at lv2 (the int nerf hurts, -6 past few patches).
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:31 pm

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Buy 2 iron branches then
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:33 pm

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She has 208 Mana at level 1, that's only 7 away from being able to cast both her spells.

And if you don't max aura then no shit you're going to have trouble with her.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:35 pm

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In post 1662, BBmolla wrote:Buy 2 iron branches then
Lets say your team didn't think things through and wants to go greedy with a jungler like furi/doom, and you're stuck buying wards/sents/cour. ggnobranchgold (unless no tangoes but lel)

Also I've never run max aura on her before but int nerf hurts her a ton.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:37 pm

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Kid, both her skills scale in mana, you can't be maxing those before aura. Aura allows you to spam the shit out of her spells, not to mention your entire team.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:38 pm

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The +50 damage and +.5 seconds slow/entangle isn't worth not being able to cast your other spell.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:39 pm

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Let me make this clear, at level 1 of arcane aura, you get +2 mana regen per second. This increases by 1 for you every level. That's nuts. At level 7, you have +5 mana regen per second, in addition to whatever base regen see has.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:43 pm

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In post 1665, BBmolla wrote:Kid, both her skills scale in mana, you can't be maxing those before aura. Aura allows you to spam the shit out of her spells, not to mention your entire team.
I've always run 2-1-2.

You're typically not spell spamming anyways if you're roaming, which you typically want when you have a cm support (paired with something else).


That aside, I finally have a team and will be getting into CM, should be interesting participating in tournies. Feels so nice to have ppl who know what they're doing, first game playing together, I went 0-0-3 afk farm as team won game 4v5. :D
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:44 pm

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In post 1667, BBmolla wrote:Let me make this clear, at level 1 of arcane aura, you get +2 mana regen per second. This increases by 1 for you every level. That's nuts. At level 7, you have +5 mana regen per second, in addition to whatever base regen see has.
Your mana is typically full before a fight though.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:44 pm

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how come youre not playing the 5
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:50 pm

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In post 1670, kanyeknowsbest wrote:how come youre not playing the 5
I'm more effective as a 4 (and I don't like being blown up as the 5 >.>)

They needed a support and gave me the option to choose which I wanted.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:44 am

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I feel there should be a rule where anyone who gets my courier killed should have to buy me two stacks of wards.

Also I have learned the Kunkka absolutely curb stomps Sandking. :(
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:25 am

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Just sandstorm, then immediately juke the torrent. You have like .75 secs of invis out of sandstorm.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:04 am

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Have you ever been X marks the spot'ed while channeling ult to blink into a fight, it is the saddest thing ever. :(
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