Micro 303: Tarot uPick - Game Over!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Who can I claim masons with.... how about Orci.


ORCI AND I ARE MASONS; TIME TO WRECK SHIT LETS GO BRO

confirming

VOTE: ald who the fuck RVS votes TIP?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Our role has a hated modifier, we take one less vote to lynch

late as

fuck

tell me why this was

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I had brought it up in our QT and actually wrote a draft of a post that we could use right after my first post in this thread. We got to L-2 at the top of the second page within 12 hours. I think your idea of "late as fuck" needs some reconsideration. And I am not going to claim anything about the role without consulting with my other head unless circumstances demand an immediate claim, as they did when TS claimed.

It's

hated

. You should've claimed it first post.

both heads were online during those 12 hours.

Are there any other aspects to your hated modifier we need to know? does it go away at some point?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yes. They are innocuous and we will let you know when they arrive, but none of them are relevant today.

would revealing them to us be anti-town?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I would agree with you. But I would in this case like to know the conditions under which you become unhated.

Two reasons
1) we can help you become unhated (I assume we can't directly but I'm having trouble imagining what your modifier might be)
2) making sure that you aren't alive and hated at lylo.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

right here is one. why don't you work on trying to get a read on me?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

also: will you ever at any time need to

control votes
hammer someone
a night action (i assume not)

is losing your hater modification inevitable?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Who can I claim masons with.... how about Orci.


ORCI AND I ARE MASONS; TIME TO WRECK SHIT LETS GO BRO

confirming

VOTE: ald who the fuck RVS votes TIP?

Why not vote

Jacob

Tippy?

because TIP is easy as shit to read

None of your business.

Now why are you so hell-bent on this setup spec?

VOTE: nazarene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Vote for scum

Wasn't setup spec, and people shouldn't need to ask why I'm concerned about a hated claim

[orcinus_theoriginal]

And yeah it's my fucking business, tyvm

[orcinus_theoriginal]

vla 3 days

need a break from everything

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: medea

actually getting to stuff later tonight

[orcinus_theoriginal]

nazarene is probably town, although i really do want them to claim their hated mechanic

TIP might be scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Sure you do, nati. Btw @orci; PN is fuzzy incarnate, make of that what you will.

Literally every post you make is making me feel uncomfortable

[orcinus_theoriginal]

policy or scumvote?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Me me me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

in 3 hours i would be available to chat with your kind sirs

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hello perpetual nonsense

so let's sit down and talk

would you like any refreshments

[orcinus_theoriginal]

gif

i remember his town game to be somewhat abtruse, but that was a while ago

what do you make of his play so far

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i'd agree w/ that

medea?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i really didn't like cabd's push on me

he's normally much lazier in the early game and doesn't do shit

he got off his ass to misread me??

and now that read dissipated?

weird man

[orcinus_theoriginal]

oh yeah

before it slips my mind (i'll look at kagami in the meantime) can we also just agree that naz should claim their hated mechanic

[orcinus_theoriginal]

come back to me when you have something, questions, whatever

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ald i have at null but i want to put him somewhere

points of interest: no vote, scumread on me that's based on a misrep and no vote to follow

vla though so that's kinda dull

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i think TIP is scum but give me another day and i can be sure

have you relooked at cabd yet?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Alert: we still think you're scum. We'd just rather vote for TIP who also seems reasonably likely to flip scum and apparently isn't going to do anything useful. You LOLhopped a clear reaction test with little thought beyond dealing with it as inconspicuously as possible, but you dealt with it. That TIP strolled in afterwards and didn't even acknowledge it happened is inexcusable. Hence the vote. Although I suspect Cabd would be happy to wrest our vote back to you.

why do you think i am scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

like if you're actually scumreading me for willing to l-1 on a gambit, you are so off your game

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hi

VOTE: ald

[orcinus_theoriginal]

How much of the game were you current with, in terms of actually having opinions and not just seeing, 'daycop!' :VOTE:?

i had been on vla for 3 days

[orcinus_theoriginal]

How much of the game were you current with, in terms of actually having opinions and not just seeing, 'daycop!' :VOTE:?

i had been on vla for 3 days

Hi I am here and penguin tells me you are scum. My little reaction test on you is lost to the abyss of fuckyouhohumgetarealserver so can you help me re-create it by pretending I just voted for you and called you confirmed scum from meta?

Only if you make this a 1v1

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I will always support gambits by other players in the game if it doesn't directly harm town

I thought that it was underwhelming after hearing the explanation but I don't really care because I'm scum reading you guys

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Did alds vote get eaten by tigers or something

[orcinus_theoriginal]

It's allll tigers, all the way down. But eh, not worried about you misreading me, tomorrow will make it easy for you. I'm gonna head to staples.

this question implies you think that i am town

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'll admit that you jumping on gambits doesn't shock me, but the lack of engagement bothers me still. It's not as bad as TIP burying his head in the sand, but as I said at the end of 269 I don't see you putting out much in the way of opinions that you're willing to stand behind. You're scum reading us and spent a lot of time trying to wheedle out info on the claimed Hated mechanic. When you did get into a discussion, your involvement was basically asking questions, and your contributions were pretty vague.

Cabd seems sure he can sort you one way or the other given time though. I don't have anything useful that's more recent than Micro 99, so I'll punt this one to him.

lack of engagement?

you mean

when i popped in to check on my games

before my vla was over

to hop on a gambit vote, i wasn't engaged? is that what you mean?

cabd seems to have switched his stance then

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm here

We are not lynching Bert yet

VOTE: TIP

[orcinus_theoriginal]

45 minutes

people.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: medea

[orcinus_theoriginal]

actually, tomorrow is lylo right?

naz are you still hated?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: kagami

[orcinus_theoriginal]

kagami

if you actually vigged PN

i will be so fucking pissed at you that was so retarded

[orcinus_theoriginal]

like i'm actually ridiculously and almost irrationally pissed why the fuck would you vig PN

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?

VOTE: nazarene

[orcinus_theoriginal]

if you were playing yesterday

you should've had to like wash the towniness that bert bled out of your shirt

[orcinus_theoriginal]

the aptness of that figure of speech was completely unintentional

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I'm here

We are not lynching Bert yet

VOTE: TIP

Why "yet?"

because reads can change and ever since mac snowed me like fuck in that one game i can't quite remember i haven't placed as much faith in my d1 reads

naz. what was your mechanic?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Alright, read #1

Orc is scum.

In 340 and 341, PN is so obviously town that he was a terrible vig shot, which I would have realized if I were playing yesterday (344).

Yesterday, he is not the lynch "yet" (307). This is not what you say of someone who is "bleeding towniness," this is what you say of someone you're hoping to keep as a future mislynch, and who you're definitely not planning to ever nightkill. Further, despite PN being the only wagon other than TIP's that has lynching traction near the end of the day, orc makes absolutely no attempt to defend PN. Again, this is not how you treat a town-read.

Orc defends himself above saying that "reads change." No, they don't change that much overnight without a hydra partner or a night action. We know, however, that orc didn't use a night action to find PN innocent because not only has he not questioned GiF's role at all (which he would if he too were an investigator), but he wouldn't have "almost irrationally pissed" at my vig choice if he had targeted the same person for investigation.

i make no attempt to defend PN because it was a retarded wagon and because i wasn't here

i defend myself not by saying that reads change, but by saying that even though i can have strong town reads on day 1 they can shift to scum later

so when i say PN isn't being lynched yet i mean that i'm not seeing PN as scum yet and everyone who does can fuck off

also i swear to god if you start pushing me for this i'm going to tunnel you into oblivion



i also completely forgot what my night action was in this game because i'm really distracted by RL things, so this is going to look a little funny

i targeted naz last night

now that we got that out of the way, back to VOTE: medea

[orcinus_theoriginal]

still townreading kagami fwiw

[orcinus_theoriginal]

actually what the balls there was no wagon on PN

there was a singular GiF vote

like what the hell

[orcinus_theoriginal]

can we please not vote kagami just yet pls pls pls

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i'm looking at ald/medea today

gif talk to me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Cabd's play smells off

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah I sort of want naz to claim everything associated with their hated mechanic

Excluding, of course, any other abilities you might have

[orcinus_theoriginal]

are you avoiding me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

fery, does tarot porn exist

[orcinus_theoriginal]

CAN WE PLEASE LYNCH MEDEA NOW

[orcinus_theoriginal]

naz is conftown and that's all you need

[orcinus_theoriginal]

wait actually we're at mylo right

[orcinus_theoriginal]

massclaim time!

[orcinus_theoriginal]

holy shit medea you are claiming right now

see this is cabd scum play

letting the town slip into apathy and not doing a damn thing

PEOPLE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I know you have a fakeclaim that you'd be sitting on. In fact, I'd wager you have several, which is why I want you to claim now to water down any wiggle-room possibilities you might have

[orcinus_theoriginal]

also your head hasn't been pushing me and i'm not happy about htat

[orcinus_theoriginal]

it's easier to read you when you're not being really bad at mafia

[orcinus_theoriginal]

also the lynch yesterday was stupid as fuck and both scum were on the wagon

[orcinus_theoriginal]

actually

so i'm looking at medea/GiF as the team right now...?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

nope

nope nope nope nope nope

nope

absolutely

nope

VOTE: medea

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i'm a 2-shot doctor, protected naz both nights

i never scumread them on day 1 after they refused to claim. i just really wanted them to claim their hated mechanic and i liked how they reacted

i also embarassingly forgot i protected them on n1 for a good part of d2

[orcinus_theoriginal]

nope nope

nope

medea is so fucking scum

[orcinus_theoriginal]

see cabd this is why i like lylo

because scum like you are so easy to smoke out when the pool decreases

it's medea and gif, with a small possibility of the second being ald but i doubt that

[orcinus_theoriginal]

naz+ald if you afk on me today i swear you will not escape my wrath for as long as I'm on this site

i have an opportunity today to lynch scum-cabd and if you fuck it up i'll find where you live

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i have no ideea what anybody is saying but i'll read over everything in school

[unvote[/unvote]

[orcinus_theoriginal]

actually i have a bit, i'll read everything now

if this is cabd scumreading me because of fucking setup spec then yeah your play sucks and you totally deserve to be lynched

@naz: i thought ald was town because he said his role was confirmable and i typically scum isn't stupid enough to say that shit. i mean yeah his play sucks but still

i have no modifier to my claim

[orcinus_theoriginal]

that being said ald's role makes no fucking sense

UNVOTE:

i still think cabd is scum as hell

pedit: HOW THE BALLS DID YOU FORGET I PROTECTED N1 AND CAUSED THE 1KILL THERE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

the confirmed treestump is THEIRISHPOPE and said neighbor is apparently really bad at the game if he's townreading you

BOTH SCUM WERE ON KAGAMI WAGON BECAUSE I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT TOWN ARE ACTUALLY STUPID ENOUGH TO LYNCH HIM

YOU WANT A CASE AGAINST YOU? HERE'S MY CASE

KAGAMI

ME

NONE OF YOUR SCUMREADS HAVE MADE A LICK OF =SENSE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

also PA has been saying useless things like "hmmmmm naz could be a scum role" and that's not town PA

also your jk role kinda doesn't suggest a nexus

Pedit: uhhh not when there's a strongly hinted corroboration to said claimed killer? kagami's reads were shit she was scumreading me

[orcinus_theoriginal]

hello

me

my defense of kagami

my softed PR

me

ME

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i am also waiting for gif's claim

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Hello friends

This is your public announcement that the scum team is Medea/GiF

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: gif

[orcinus_theoriginal]

actually yeah wait what am i doing my scumread on gif is stronger but cabd claimed a fucking jk

VOTE: medea

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Orc why isn't ald scum

I can definitely see med-gif but why are you putting all your money on that?

ald isn't scum because medea and gif are scum

i thought gif's play early day 1 was a bit too earnest for his town game but i didn't say anything then

i like ald for a lot of htings. if he's scum, his play has been ballsy as fuck

talk all you want but the scumteam is medea/gif

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Hello friends

This is your public announcement that the scum team is Medea/GiF

Nope
Try again

this

at lylo

is a pinnacle of scumminess

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Ok, so we have all the claims. I don't see a certain combination being too broken, but I don't think we have a town doctor+a town JK. As we think orc is town, that makes medea scum. Since it's all one/two-shots, it's not rock-solid tho.
Medea, did you think gif's follow was one-shot? Why did you JK him again?

Then there is gif with a weird joat claim. I definitely believe a maf JOAT, so I want you to fully claim, gif. I townread you from early game, but Aegor doesn't share this.

And there is ald. Who calls himself soft-confirmable. Which he isn't at all. Ald, I need you to come in here and talk about your suspicions.

Tippy why don't you talk to me.

-Tier
P-edit can you unvote please
Just let us converse a little

you really don't need to talk to anybody

i'm town for a billion reasons

which makes medea scum

and i'm telling you right now that gif is medea's partner

just close your eyes and vote medea. i am here. it'll be okay

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i like ald for a lot of htings. if he's scum, his play has been ballsy as fuck

if you want to know why ald is town, just go through his posts and read them like he were scum

it's impossible

like he's bad at the game because his reads are shit but he's still town

what scum is retarded enough to push me at this point in time?

i mean come on

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Geez ok its medea gif alright

VOTE: medea

Thaaaaaannnnkkkk yoouuu

[orcinus_theoriginal]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[orcinus_theoriginal]

whatever. shouldn't have expected more out of you

well done

[orcinus_theoriginal]

literally worse than trash

hoooooolllyyyyy shit.

or maybe it's medea/ald and i'm just super-bad at this game but i doubt it

[orcinus_theoriginal]

game aside i genuinely strongly dislike you as a person right now

afk for the entire game, put forward zero effort, and then proceed mislynch at lylo while STILL putting forward zero effort

like this is the problem with this game

one shitty player can just ruin the whole fucking game

whatever

[orcinus_theoriginal]

yeah fuck you ald

[orcinus_theoriginal]

like i have nothing against people mislynching at lylo, it happens all the time

but you're something special aren't you

you special little snowflake

fuck you with a rake

[orcinus_theoriginal]

i actually have no idea how we managed to lose that

goddamnit this pisses me off so much

[orcinus_theoriginal]

EAT SHIT AND DIE ORC~

I HAD YOU FUCKING NAILED FROM DAY 1

[orcinus_theoriginal]

BALLSACK RETARDED ALDUSKKEL

yeah i'm over this loss

i fucking hate mafia.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Yeah it's ok aegor. Fuzzy logics happen every now and then. Only thing we can do is say "well we played that lylo best as we could've, move on".