Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[Zdenek]

Because his @L-2/L-1 [whatever it was] post is just a wash to me.

That post was truly beautiful.
I don't lynch beauty,
Unless it's scummy,
But that wasn't.

[sekai no ki]

3. Sekai no Ki (Fferyllt/Pieguyn Hydra)
^Scum, through-and-through. I've been pounding this one in, but the simplest way of saying it is that their entire posting has zero scumhunting in it, and is entirely focused on manipulating things. They're survivalistic and using basically every trick in the scumbag's handbook.

For chrissake Mastin. How you can call me survivalistic given the crap that YOU are pulling is beyond me. All the way down to telling me to vote myself and destroy some of the usefulness of my wagon no matter what my alignment. You advise players not to do that even as scum in your MD threads but here you are adding it to your crap scumcase in an actual game.

You're going to be a while regaining the respect you're squandering in this game.

You ought to know by now that I townhunt and POE more than I scumhunt, especially on day 1. It gets masked somewhat when hydraing, but that's my approach unless something odd catches my eye.

You have definitely caught my eye. I want to put my vote back on you right here and right now for this utter crap of a read. Your appeals to AP to open his eyes when your read of me is so incredibly bad boggles my mind. The hypocrisy is so far beyond what I'd put past you as scum that I don't even know what to think anymore.

If you're both actually town then town is fucked.

actually, that post is the best thing mastin has posted so far. he has me as scum but i am glad i get town vibes from him... i guess i dont get your reaction. I mean so what if mastin has you as scum, he has been trolling all game, no one is following him.

if you are town i feel like you should walk away from that post with a "hmm, glad i get some townvibes from him, that limits the field", instead you focus on his read on you...

help me out here

Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell. That plus wrapping my head around the idea that she could be that blind to the parallels and to pushing me to self vote and calling it scummy not to given her own game philosophy.

I'm way too outraged and angry to be effective right now.

[Zdenek]

Actually, dopog reading your posts is really nice because I think for the most part you are describing what I am doing accurately. It's one of the reasons I am pretty sure you are town. I think you'd probably read me correctly if you thought about why I am doing what I am doing rather than just pointing it out. The RC thing is particularly telling, especially if you think RC is scum. At that moment, with no one else (if I remember correctly) calling RC scum, as scum I would have had no motivation to bus him.

[AngryPidgeon]

are we going arround til someone claims scum

www.youtube.com/watch?v=936XLcBJtOs&t=0m30s
UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Red Coyote

So help me god if mastin doesnt vote RC in his next post I am going to slap someone.

[Zdenek]

Dopog, you ignored my question from before, what "stuff" were you referring to?

[Zdenek]

It's occurred to me that dopog's iioa case on me might be coming from new-scum who can't fake scum hunting.
I'll have to look at one of old games.

[GuyInFreezer]

For the record, I think that the point on GiF is quite strong and there is no way I would ignore it.

Think what you may, but I was keeping my end of the deal.

At this rate we're gonna end up outing all the PRs.

VOTE: RC

[Svenskt Stål]

3. Sekai no Ki (Fferyllt/Pieguyn Hydra)
^Scum, through-and-through. I've been pounding this one in, but the simplest way of saying it is that their entire posting has zero scumhunting in it, and is entirely focused on manipulating things. They're survivalistic and using basically every trick in the scumbag's handbook.

For chrissake Mastin. How you can call me survivalistic given the crap that YOU are pulling is beyond me. All the way down to telling me to vote myself and destroy some of the usefulness of my wagon no matter what my alignment. You advise players not to do that even as scum in your MD threads but here you are adding it to your crap scumcase in an actual game.

You're going to be a while regaining the respect you're squandering in this game.

You ought to know by now that I townhunt and POE more than I scumhunt, especially on day 1. It gets masked somewhat when hydraing, but that's my approach unless something odd catches my eye.

You have definitely caught my eye. I want to put my vote back on you right here and right now for this utter crap of a read. Your appeals to AP to open his eyes when your read of me is so incredibly bad boggles my mind. The hypocrisy is so far beyond what I'd put past you as scum that I don't even know what to think anymore.

If you're both actually town then town is fucked.

actually, that post is the best thing mastin has posted so far. he has me as scum but i am glad i get town vibes from him... i guess i dont get your reaction. I mean so what if mastin has you as scum, he has been trolling all game, no one is following him.

if you are town i feel like you should walk away from that post with a "hmm, glad i get some townvibes from him, that limits the field", instead you focus on his read on you...

help me out here

Hypocrisy isn't a scum tell. That plus wrapping my head around the idea that she could be that blind to the parallels and to pushing me to self vote and calling it scummy not to given her own game philosophy.

I'm way too outraged and angry to be effective right now.

being wrong does not equal being scum, cmon

[RedCoyote]

I just iso'd RC, he is definitely phoning it in.

You think that makes more more likely to be scum or town? Be honest.

[Zdenek]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

[Zdenek]

Also dopog does not appear to have any completed scum games.

[GuyInFreezer]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

[Zdenek]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

What made it flip?

[sekai no ki]

being wrong does not equal being scum, cmon

That's what I said. Admittedly with some histrionics thrown in.

[GuyInFreezer]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

What made it flip?

His AtE. If he was scum, he would've gone "oh cool you're just gonna regret it" kinda tone.

[Bulbazak]

Should note that I'm faking hydra dissonance about AP. Pie has some opinions that I want to share to look town, but I wont let him actually post cause people are scumreading him properly.

AP is the biggest centerpiece of our fake hydra dissonance so I will arbitrarily compare him to Wisdom and keep calling him probtown.

Keep calm and lynch mastin.

I only actually have 3 scumreads and I hope to have even less before the end of the Day. Im waffling on Thor in order to make him look sketchy when I end up getting lynched and flipping mafia.

:thumbs up:

Vote Sekai already!

5 more masin votes for a scum lynch.

Yes, I agree. Scum is trying to lynch Mastin.

Okay.

Then we should lynch me. Nero is a complete shot in the dark given what's in the game thread.

My flip will resolve a ton of misconceptions.

My ONLY concern about flipping town today or tonight is worry that town dumbasses will lynch GiF tomorrow.

UNVOTE

IF SEKAI WERE TOWN, THIS WOULD BE BACKED UP WITH A SELF-VOTE.

A self-vote would make me want to lynch her more.

Hey one question, if we make mastin claim are we going to again back down and make another fucking wagon and make another person claim?

If you're town, stop being stupid. And if you're scum, keep being stupid.

Good morning!

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
(will read posts and comment and stuff yeah. Give me a day)

Everybody is trying to lynch town while ignoring scum. Lynch scum with me.

I dont give a shit but whoever we lynch, we should seriously lynch between Vezok, Mastin, and PV.

That's a bad list (Ok, I actually don't care for the PV choice either way.).

P-edit: Why. If we aren't doing mastin, can we do the Scumball or RC?

Why not lynch Sekei with us, you know, the one you've been calling scum the entire freaking time?

FWIW, if people get an RC or Scumball wagon going, I'll vote one of those up but Im not starting another wagon at this point. I'll be back in a couple hours.

Hey, there's this wagon on one of your scumreads: Sekei. Why aren't you on it?

I'll probably follow AP today in whatever he does.

he has been trolling all game, no one is following him.

This is untrue.

[vezokpiraka]

I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

What made it flip?

His AtE. If he was scum, he would've gone "oh cool you're just gonna regret it" kinda tone.

This is scum posting.

Bulba is conftown.

I am willing to vote rc. I haven't seen anything particulary townie from him.

[Venmar]

Votecount 1.16

[0] Majiffy:

[0] LeMidget:

[2]

Sekai No Ki:

Mastin2, Bulbazak

[1]

SweatingChessBall3:

PeregrineV

[2]

PeregrineV:

dopog, RedCoyote

[5]

RedCoyote:

Zdenek, BBMolla, Svenskt Stal, AngryPidgeon, GuyInFreezer

[5]

Mastin2:

Nero Cain, Majiffy, ActionDan, Aegor, Rubicon

[1]

Alpazard:

LeMidget

[0] Aegor:

[0] GuyInFreezer:

[0] Bulbazak:

[0] Thor665:

[0] Svenskt Stål:

[0] Rubicon:

[2]

ActionDan:

Alpazard, Vezokpiraka

[1]

Vezokpiraka:

Pidgey

[0] BBMolla:

[0] Pidgey:

[0] AngryPidgeon:

[0] Dopog:

[1]

Nero Cain:

SweatingChessball3

[0] Zdenek:

Not Voting (2):

• Thor665, sekai no ki

Deadline:

• Monday, March 10th, 2014

Mod Notes:

• With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.
  
• Nero Cain is
  V/LA
  until March 7th (Friday) or so.

[pidgey]

Bulba if you think im scum its better than just saying dumb one liners about me

I think AP is town at this point and he is making good arguments so what the fuck is wrong with me saying im gonna sheep his ass

Also 100 hours or so to go, are we going to make ANOTHER FUCKING WAGON on RC?

[Bulbazak]

Bulba if you think im scum its better than just saying dumb one liners about me

I'm unsure about your alignment atm, although I don't care for your most recent play.

[pidgey]

This real life day has been fucking retarded btw, we have made 3 wagons and made at least 2 claims, not even mentioning all the stupid soft claims.

If we could stick to something it would be swell

Bulba- That's swell but then why quote me about stuff that you are unsure off? Seems rather pointless then doesnt it.

[pidgey]

To be completely frank I wouldnt care still lynching vezok (im paranoid like that at times) and mastin's defense seems so out of line compared to the town play i've seen from him, but honestly not sure if desperation or scum.

[pidgey]

is it just me or does mastin's reads look a little safe

[Bulbazak]

is it just me or does mastin's reads look a little safe

How so?

[pidgey]

I dunno

Like, almost everyone is a town read, which sure i mean statistically speaking i dont think he'd hive us half and half town and scum.

But like, its just words saying stuff but not really any context, like take a look at his SCB: "Also a decent townread. Though they haven't been posting as much as I'd prefer, and their content as of recently has been slightly lackluster, they're still a fairly decent townread, because their thoughts seem to be coming from a town player. Both of them have stances that are easy to see and relate to. Basically, just by extrapolating their posting, you can see that they're town; they've got a clear trajectory that is easily followed, and I can easily understand what gives them their reads."

Like ok, i can take that, but that's mostly everyone. There's nothing like, "i think you are scum because you did exactly this post saying this thing". Also the scum reads seem a little safe.

I dunno, i like mastin but the way he has been survivalistic seems weird. I mean, FUCK, im so confused wtf, i dont really wanna lynch him today because he's mastin and he can be valuable, but that post just kinda rang a bad bell.