NY 171: An Education in Telling Jokes (Game Over!)

[tman2nd]

Well he had already claimed

Well yeah but hasn't Marquis "claimed" IC? Or are you talking about the counter claim? I need to recheck the timing on that.

What claim are we talking about?

Finally, in trying to read Mala in context [specifically 1326], I noticed that tman is playing pretty much the same game as mala only - to his credit - he has been posting. What I mean by "same game" is that he was pretty dialed in to Marquis on Day 1 [tunnel] and only moved to the Zek wagon in post 1345 because it had more traction. I point this out because I think we share a Townish read on Tman

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That's a very different situation. I didn't reverse my read of Marquis at that point, and I wasn't defending Zekrom the previous day. Also, it has none of the other features that are making Mala look scummy.

I also want to hear more out of Green Crayons and Elyse.

I find that I don't really have much to say at the moment. I want mala to respond to my post, and in the meanwhile I'm happy with my PeregrineV vote.


I'm happy to do a recap about my feelings about players. For ease of future reference, I'm even going to include a bold notation as to those who I would be comfortable lynching today.

2. PeregrineV: willing to lynch today for reasons stated in Post 1659. (

Happy to lynch.

)

4. DeathNote: I thought was scum for about the first half of D1, and now I find him neutral. Hasn't done anything exceptional since that point in time, which I think might be attributable to the blowup between him and UT right about when his posting seemed to drop off. That strikes me as discouraged town, rather than scared scum licking his wounds.

5. pisskop: no real read. I just wrote a snippet about some minor feelings I had towards pisskop, only to do a quick double check and realize that they were not about pisskop at all, but another player. This leads me to conclude that I have absolutely no feelings about pisskop.

6. Yates Matias*: no read

7. pirate mollie: town

8. serrapaladin OhGodMyLife*: I realized I didn't have a read on him and then realized I couldn't actually put even a personality with the name. 9 posts all game. Would lynch this lurker today. (

Happy to lynch.

)

9. Untrod Tripod XLAV: town

10. Malakittens: leaning scum. (

Happy to lynch.

)

11. Elyse: still town in my book.

12. Marquis: still town in my book. I've read the posts about people who think she's scummy, and they didn't strike me as solid enough suspicions to take the time and synthesize and think hard and deep thoughts about.

13. Nikanor: no read.

14. Ythan *: I feel like he's pulling a "I'm hot shit" gambit and the only one who is noticing that it isn't working (and shouldn't be, because Ythan hasn't exactly delivered this game) is tman. Would be happy to vote again. (

Happy to lynch.

)

15. Porochaz: still think he's town

17. evilpacman18 *: I would have been happy to lynch today -- I recall in my distant memory where EPM played more or less like he has this game (basic actively lurker scum template) and he was scum GF or something silly like that. Plus there were some pretty good suspicions thrown about earlier by another player re: EPM that struck me correctly. I don't know how I feel now that he's going to be replaced. (

Happy to lynch.

)

18. RadiantCowbells: leaning town. He's been pretty quiet with the occasional not particularly helpful tidbit, so I guess possible lurker scum, but he doesn't really strike me that way.

20. tman2nd: solid town

21. Green Crayons: me

Wow, this list is almost exactly my reads at the moment. I'd put RC as leaning scum, and Peregrine as no read, but I think I agree with everything else.

[tman2nd]

That got messed up. This was supposed to come before I quoted GC.

Finally, in trying to read Mala in context [specifically 1326], I noticed that tman is playing pretty much the same game as mala only - to his credit - he has been posting. What I mean by "same game" is that he was pretty dialed in to Marquis on Day 1 [tunnel] and only moved to the Zek wagon in post 1345 because it had more traction. I point this out because I think we share a Townish read on Tman

.

That's a very different situation. I didn't reverse my read of Marquis at that point, and I wasn't defending Zekrom the previous day. Also, it has none of the other features that are making Mala look scummy.

[Green Crayons]

VOTE: Malakittens

There is a lot of resistance to her wagon which IMO is a good sign. Most of the resistance is talking about why she isn't scum rather than why she's town, which is another good sign.

Can you provide specific examples of what you're talking about?

[Yates]

jesus christ ut you cannot tell me that you missed like an obvious thing like this

Well... aside from knowing wtf I'm talking about, there's a wiki link.

RC is town. The best we can do with her is try and convince her to vote with town.

Based on what? You are rapidly becoming a scum read for me mainly because of proclimations like this with absolutely no backing.

VOTE: Malakittens

There is a lot of resistance to her wagon which IMO is a good sign. Most of the resistance is talking about why she isn't scum rather than why she's town, which is another good sign.

Can you provide specific examples of what you're talking about?

That's actually a good point and the first thing anyone's said that has me reconsidering my mala read. You'd think a mala mislynch would be easier [though I recognize my role in preventing it]. I'm the only one that's actually questioned the

case

on mala - maybe Pere to a certain degree - and yet she isn't lynched yet. Some people aren't voting mala for reasons yet unknown and no one has really presented a stronger scum read, myself included.

What claim are we talking about?

Did you mean the IC claim?

I am an Innocent Child!

apparently the ! was necessary

...or the counter claim?

I'm the actual fucking oneshot vig. I tried to shoot him last night, fucker's probably mafia bulletproof.

I didn't reverse my read of Marquis at that point, and I wasn't defending Zekrom the previous day.

Fair enough. I guess you weren't defending Zekrom but you weren't making a Zekrom case either.

As an aside - I apologize in advance for any gramatical or spelling errors. I just had a Firestone Walker Succaba and a Lawson's Finest Maple Tripple. And I'm okay with that since they were both off the charts amazeballs.

[Ythan]

Pretty satisfied with claimed scumread from crayons and tman.

[pirate mollie]

jesus christ ut you cannot tell me that you missed like an obvious thing like this

Well... aside from knowing wtf I'm talking about, there's a wiki link.

did you srsly just forget that you agreed with me on what a chainsaw defense was and somehow managed to miss that ut already supplied the intel on that?

[pirate mollie]

like this is what I have to say on it:

[DeathNote]

I stated RC to be town long ago.

Caught up, just wanted to say that RC votes are bad. She is an easy wagon and not likely scum. Although... I am stating this mostly for meta reasons.

I just sort of ignore her and consider her a sheep vote if she is town. Sorry RC

Nothing RC has done has changed my read.

[Untrod Tripod]

deadline is in 33 hours. we only need 2 votes.

can we lynch mala plz

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE:

[Untrod Tripod]

what the fuck mollie

[pirate mollie]

I am wallowing in self-pity I am not in the mood to vote any1 right now

[Untrod Tripod]

okay well you have 31 hours

[Yates]

Screw it.

VOTE: Mala

Tomorrow look at *MY* lynch pool.

[Untrod Tripod]

that's L-2 again

[Untrod Tripod]

(mala if you're reading the thread now would be a great time to claim if you're town and give reads etc.)

[Desperado]

Notscience replaces evilpacman18 effective immediately

[Untrod Tripod]

sup notsci

[notscience]

Someone give me a 10 word post on why we're wagoning mala

[Desperado]

Nikanor, Malakittens, serrapaladin, and RadiantCowbells have all been prodded

[Desperado]

Disclaimer: The jokes in this video have absolutely nothing to do with this game of mafia and are meant solely to amuse.

Vote Count 3.3

Malakittens (7) - Porochaz, Untrod Tripod, tman2nd, Ythan, DeathNote, Elyse, Yates

<--- L-2!

PeregrineV (2) - Green Crayons, Marquis
Yates (2) - serrapaladin, Nikanor
Nikanor (1) - Malakittens
serrapaladin (1) - PeregrineV
Marquis (1) - pisskop
pisskop (1) - evilpacman18
Untrod Tripod (1)- RadiantCowbells


Not Voting (1) - pirate mollie

The deadline for Day 3 is Thursday, March 13th, at 8:00 PM EST. With 17 people alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline in (expired on 2014-03-13 20:00:00).

[notscience]

MOLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Marquis you have 2 pages to convince me you're town before I run you into the ground go

[Yates]

Someone give me a 10 word post on why we're wagoning mala

Read this post then read this post. Ten word answer.

[Green Crayons]

@ Yates:

VOTE: Malakittens

There is a lot of resistance to her wagon which IMO is a good sign. Most of the resistance is talking about why she isn't scum rather than why she's town, which is another good sign.

Can you provide specific examples of what you're talking about?

That's actually a good point and the first thing anyone's said that has me reconsidering my mala read. You'd think a mala mislynch would be easier [though I recognize my role in preventing it]. I'm the only one that's actually questioned the

case

on mala - maybe Pere to a certain degree - and yet she isn't lynched yet. Some people aren't voting mala for reasons yet unknown and no one has really presented a stronger scum read, myself included.

(1) I'm not quite sure why you quoted me, instead of quoting the source you're agreeing with (Elyse's post). I'm not saying it isn't a good point, I just want specific examples that motivated Elyse's comment for future consideration before we see Mala's alignment.

(2) Why should we think a Mala mislynch would be easier?

(3) So if Elyse's point is a good one (your words), and you're claiming that you're pretty much the only person who she could be talking about in making her point, why shouldn't we lynch you tomorrow if Mala flips scum? If Mala flips town, why isn't your observation a duplicitous, self-serving statement -- that is, you were the lone voice of reason speaking out against the misguided Mala-wagon?

(4) Why are you voting Mala?


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@Ythan:

Pretty satisfied with

claimed scumread

from crayons and tman.

I don't even understand what the bolded means. I have a pretty good idea what you're suggesting ("obvscum" or the equivalent), but that actual phrase makes no sense to me. How is a scumread claimed? I want to make sure I understand the full scope of your wrongness.

[Malakittens]

I don't have time until after work today.

Ftr I think I skimmed and saw someone say I have restitant to my wagon which isn't tue because I'm at L-2 and there's two others possibly willing to vote with zero counter wagon. So like that's NO restistance to my wagon. Probably a scum driven one imo.

But I have to go because I'm not spending my break playing mafia, sorry.