NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[pieguyn]

also the timing here is a bit different from his interactions with Bert. this was mostly at the start of the game and it was mostly references to a previous game, whereas with Bert it was more spread out iirc and there was more straight up sucking up as opposed to talking about a previous game. idk if this means anything and I still haven't checked Generic/Sakura

[pieguyn]

Sakura hana threatens a rage quit and you all panic lynch stuffed crust?

Did they even get any time to claim?

Anyway, as annoying as that was I will be rather disappointed if hana did that as a ploy to evade lynch, having aged in a few games with her I like to believe she is a more legitimate person than something so unsportsmanlike (and since I have been in a similar position myself in a previous game I cannot be too judgemental) so now that you are here for another day phase hans please give your vurrent reads on the remaining players.

I'm two for two incidentally, if we are keeping count on reads. So it's looking good for mcmaraca and f16 as town in my eyes.

* having PLAYED in a few games with her.

Although I think I have aged visibly after games with nacho and bert

Can I see what you WERE thinking please?

I did see you say you were gonna revise the reads, but you were saying you were busy day 1, avoided being lynched and now are throwing all the reads out and saying you need to start over.

Had you not blacklist telled (love that term btw) I would be more feeling a case of stalling here.

Have you no thoughts on your wagon and the manner people left it?

I think the 3 main people that wanted SC dead all day long was me, GiF/Nero and Ceph.

Generic, why trust so much my whatever-tell and make remarks on "If it wasn't for that tell etc." When we haven't played together near as long enough for you to know me well enough wrt to it?

It's called faith in humanity.

If you want me to believe you are SUCH a petty individual that to survive a day 1 lynch as scum you will fake a rage quit with the 'woe is me the world is against me' schtick then that says more about your own self esteem than my personal view on such actions.

Bert and nacho will point to wingate where I walked the mod kill line over the same sort of tell through utter frustration of it all and RL issues... And guess what, I was town.

So I don't have to see you personally do it to draw from my own experiences... And I've seen you as scum AND town, you were more lurky and Whiney when you were town.

Do you think he would have said "I have permission to kill Hana" instead of just keeping quiet and shooting me during the Night?
Titus i suggest you go back to FEA and ISO Nero.

Fuck you hana! Making the point in a tenth of the time and with far fewer words!

no it says she doesn't want to use cheap tactics to be townread. from what I could tell the "meta" she was referring to here is said fatalism + ATE. she doesn't wanna be townread bc of that, aka cheap tactics

Unfortunately, human nature is that we attribute certain tactics or actions to certain mjndsets.

And because of that my opinion of hana going forwards from this game rests on her flip. I believe her to be above a fake blacklist tell. Hence I have her as a townread.
Her subsequent play has strengthened that view, but I won't deny that it started there.

I promised this yesterday.

Vote: Sakura

And so I shall.

You could also be double the useful and vote SAD.

I'd rather vote Titus or Proph

Or you could tell me why SAD is scum.

Hana is obvtown

a lot of this is based on Sakura's reaction to being ran up. I'm having paranoia here bc if Sakura was scum with Casso the whole thing was obviously planned in the first place and it'd make sense he'd wanna draw attention to it. but overall there's a lot of the general type of sucking up here he did to Bert

[pieguyn]

I'd say the odd one out here is BBQ which fucking sucks bc I really really think BBQ is town. I found a really awesome tell on GIF and if he's scum here that means said tell is wrong. plus Sakura makes the most sense as a potential Casso partner. either way none of these are as definitive as the Bert interactions

[pieguyn]

mara you have a hydra with GIF right? do you all use a QT?

@Sakura:

talk to me about your Proph read. why did you have him as scum and how did my evidence of Proph-town destroy your townread on Casso?

[Sakura Hana]

It was actually me analyzing the night kill and proph interaction reads.

[Empire]

Day 8, Votecount 3

KoreanBBQ (1)

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KoreanBBQ

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Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal, Prophylaxis, goodmorning, Sakura Hana, pieguyn

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch! It is now Day 8! Deadline is on March 24th at 11:35 AM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-24 11:34:56).

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N/A

Prodding Casso the King of Seals.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Greetings,

Head switch due to Nacho going to Canada for some reason.
We've been having a lot of communication breakdown because QT doesn't work for me in my current internet setup - I have no idea why.

I also haven't really been following the last few day...phases.
Sorry for that.

So, what's up?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Apparently Korean BBQ is claiming "bad at the game" then, huh?

[Sakura Hana]

Greetings,

Head switch due to Nacho going to Canada for some reason.
We've been having a lot of communication breakdown because QT doesn't work for me in my current internet setup - I have no idea why.

I also haven't really been following the last few day...phases.
Sorry for that.

So, what's up?

Llamarble died, and he was pretty much pointing to you and BBQ being scum, gm still wants you dead and mara still loves you, and i'm having issues with your alignment.

[KoreanBBQ]

Apparently Korean BBQ is claiming "bad at the game" then, huh?

it's my masterplan to free AtE points from suckers

I am very bad at this mafia game.
please punish me for being bad.

[KoreanBBQ]

Because I think I'm gonna stay being bad for little bit more

[Casso the King of Seals]

Llamarble died, and he was pretty much pointing to you and BBQ being scum, gm still wants you dead and mara still loves you, and i'm having issues with your alignment.

So what I hear is business as usual.
I'm impressed that only did F16 end up looking town but he drew a NK. Good for him.
I also see that a number of my issue reads are still kicking even at this stage. Shock.

Apparently Korean BBQ is claiming "bad at the game" then, huh?

it's my masterplan to free AtE points from suckers

I am very bad at this mafia game.
please punish me for being bad.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ng_as_Town
I swear I get to post this thing at least once a day.

So...basically, admission of bad play or scum. Copy.

Vote: KoreanBBQ

Also, didn't we have some claimed masons here? Are they all still alive or was it a lulz gambit from some VTs?
Because that would be awesome if it was and I want to read the reveal post.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Oh my gawd, even my own iso is 4 pages long.
I don't want to have to try to find the mason info.
If it wasn't this game then I'm going derpier than usual.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Wasn't that why I had to give up trying to kill Goodmorning? I seem to recall something making me have to stop wanting that.

[KoreanBBQ]

So which one?
Just a bad play or scum?
You said "or" so you're not allowed to say both.

[KoreanBBQ]

Also gm/mara proved that they still had a daytalk after the scum encryptor flip so they're masons.

[Casso the King of Seals]

Maraca/Goodmorning are masons.

Hah! I win!

Maraca is Marangal, who I recall liking for town.
Why the hell are the scum killing all these other people. Was F16 and Nork townier than ruddy Masons? And if so, why? And why aren't we discussing that? And if we are, what *is* that discussion?

[KoreanBBQ]

Thor this is just for you.

Spoiler:

I am pulling a slayer's gambit. Am I giving you a heart attack yet?

[Casso the King of Seals]

So which one?
Just a bad play or scum?
You said "or" so you're not allowed to say both.

If you're town it's bad play.
If you're scum it's scummy play.

So clearly it's not both.

Okay, so why do you think scum killed Falcon and Norklaz over confirmed Masons?

[Casso the King of Seals]

Thor this is just for you.

Spoiler:

I am pulling a slayer's gambit. Am I giving you a heart attack yet?

I don't even know what that is and am too lazy to look it up on the Wiki.
So no.

[KoreanBBQ]

Maraca/Goodmorning are masons.

Hah! I win!

Maraca is Marangal, who I recall liking for town.
Why the hell are the scum killing all these other people. Was F16 and Nork townier than ruddy Masons? And if so, why? And why aren't we discussing that? And if we are, what *is* that discussion?

One of these.

1) Scum is not feeling threatened to kill them yet.
2) Their reads are horribly wrong.
3) scum is still attempting to cast wifom.

4) Mafia backup encryptor

[KoreanBBQ]

So which one?
Just a bad play or scum?
You said "or" so you're not allowed to say both.

If you're town it's bad play.
If you're scum it's scummy play.

So clearly it's not both.

Okay, so why do you think scum killed Falcon and Norklaz over confirmed Masons?

See above.
(Also dodging the choice I see )

[Casso the King of Seals]

5) Norklaz/Falcon had good reads...

I mean, that seems a pretty obvious one too, no?

[KoreanBBQ]

Thor this is just for you.

Spoiler:

I am pulling a slayer's gambit. Am I giving you a heart attack yet?

I don't even know what that is and am too lazy to look it up on the Wiki.
So no.

It's a horrible gambit requiring the user to act scummy/bad on purpose and scumhunt off of the attackers/his wagon.

[KoreanBBQ]

5) Norklaz/Falcon had good reads...

I mean, that seems a pretty obvious one too, no?

Eh I was focusing more on "why aren't masons dead" when I answered that.