NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

Ms Marangal · Post Post #8075 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:11 pm

ehh...

Kinda weird that he hasn't mentioned Nacho's sakura read, though it doesn't really seem like the reads nacho is putting out here is the same as the ones in the qt so, iunno.

Empire · Post Post #8076 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:25 pm

Day 8, Votecount 5

KoreanBBQ (2)

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Ms Marangal, Sakura Hana

pieguyn (1)

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Casso the King of Seals

Not Voting (4)

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Prophylaxis, goodmorning, pieguyn, KoreanBBQ

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch! It is now Day 8! Deadline is on March 24th at 11:35 AM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-24 11:34:56).

Mod Notes

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Nachomamma8 head of Casso the King of Seals is V/LA until the 16th.

KoreanBBQ · Post Post #8077 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:39 pm

As of now, thor's stance is this.

1. Pie > me
2. The reason for scumread on pie is related to nks, which is full of wifom, instead of the finding somethinf scummy in pie's posts.
3. The reason for scumread on me is related what I posted. (And it sounds like a half policy but that's just my personal opinion.)
4. Thor has a stronger scumread on pie than me.

What do you think of this?

KoreanBBQ · Post Post #8078 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:40 pm

Wow them word skips.
I dunno why but I've been doing a lot of those recently :/

Casso the King of Seals · Post Post #8079 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:39 pm

In post 8073, KoreanBBQ wrote:What do you think of thor calling everyone scum except for proph and the masons

...sanity?
Because if you take the seven players, take me out, take out the masons, and then give me one town read on Proph that leaves...let's see...carry the remainder...divide by ten...three suspects.
One of which I listed as my biggest.
With a case.
How very...very...strange of me.

I think what it really shows is Nacho probably had good reads while I was gone.
Again - shock.

In post 8075, Ms Marangal wrote:ehh...

Kinda weird that he hasn't mentioned Nacho's sakura read, though it doesn't really seem like the reads nacho is putting out here is the same as the ones in the qt so, iunno.

I thought I had mentioned it.
I kinda said "here's Nacho's Sakura read, so I'll sheep along on that one"
Pretty much a direct quote really.
I'm not a particularly subtle guy, y'know.

Casso the King of Seals · Post Post #8080 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:41 pm

In post 8077, KoreanBBQ wrote:1. Pie > me
2. The reason for scumread on pie is related to nks, which is full of wifom, instead of the finding somethinf scummy in pie's posts.
3. The reason for scumread on me is related what I posted. (And it sounds like a half policy but that's just my personal opinion.)
4. Thor has a stronger scumread on pie than me.

I read this, and even reading it exactly as you presented it...I'm not sure what your issue is.
You're complaining that my read on Pie is weak, and that my read on you is weak (and maybe half policy) and then pointing out that it's odd that I have one as a stronger read even though you're not willing to admit that my read on you should be strong or is a good read.

So...what's your perceived issue here?
Specifically?

KoreanBBQ · Post Post #8081 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:42 pm

You missed the point.

KoreanBBQ · Post Post #8082 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:52 pm

Aldo I want mara to guess first.

KoreanBBQ · Post Post #8083 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:52 pm

Also*

Ms Marangal · Post Post #8084 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:38 pm

I'll state my thoughts when I get home but Nacho never had sakura as scum. He's had her as town the entire game wo you saying nacho has a sum read on sak and your sweeping it is weird

pieguyn · Post Post #8085 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:02 pm

BBQ is a terrible lynch and I hate hate hate how a bunch of people are all of a sudden fine with lynching him (especially Casso). whatever you all do

DON'T BE IDIOTS AND LYNCH SOMEONE OUT OF NOWHERE. THAT IS THE LAST THING ANYONE NEEDS ON PROBABLY THE DAY BEFORE LYLO AND I DON'T GET HOW THE FUCK YOU ALL ARE FINE WITH LYNCHING SOMEONE BEFORE DISCUSSION IS OVER. OH MY FUCKING GOD

I still wanna lynch Casso. I have townreads on literally everyone else. idk who his partner is and I don't care and I don't have enough time or energy right now to figure out who's playing an amazing scumgame. I'm waffling back and forth on all 3 remaining players and it's getting to the point where I legit think there might only be 4 scum even tho it's probably impossible. I can't see any scenario where Casso isn't scum and I'd far prefer to go for the sure bet right now as opposed to chancing a lynch on someone else

vote: Casso

@Sakura:

do you still think Casso is scum and if so do you think Casso is bussing BBQ? and if so what happened to you saying casso wouldn't bus his entire scumteam?

pieguyn · Post Post #8086 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:13 pm

I think I'm satisfied with ruling out BBQ as a possible Casso partner. Casso pushing BBQ lynch (especially after pushing SAD lynch in a similar way) makes me think they're not teammates especially with BBQ pushing Casso lynch for a while now

with this in mind I think I can bring myself to be confident enough in my GIF read to call BBQ town

so lynch Casso -> {Proph, Sakura} lynchpool should be enough to win

pieguyn · Post Post #8087 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:14 pm

@GIF:

how sure are you about Sakura town?

Empire · Post Post #8088 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:17 am

Prodding Prophylaxis.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #8089 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:54 am

I find it funny how every single player keeps proposing "Lynch in this order to win".

goodmorning · Post Post #8090 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:59 am

V/LA til Sunday.

I have a townread on Sakura.

Prophylaxis · Post Post #8091 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:08 pm

Going to drop this here, and analyze tomorrow.

Looking purely at vote counts + PoE make me think Casso/KoreanBBQ scumteam is a lock.

Spoiler: votals

Prophylaxis · Post Post #8092 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:13 pm

In post 8086, pieguyn wrote:I think I'm satisfied with ruling out BBQ as a possible Casso partner. Casso pushing BBQ lynch (especially after pushing SAD lynch in a similar way) makes me think they're not teammates especially with BBQ pushing Casso lynch for a while now

with this in mind I think I can bring myself to be confident enough in my GIF read to call BBQ town

so lynch Casso -> {Proph, Sakura} lynchpool should be enough to win

Hmm, really? I feel like their most recent interactions look like they're setting up for a Setesh/cross-bus.

Vote Casso (L-2)

. Put 'em down.

Prophylaxis · Post Post #8093 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:50 pm

pieguyn, can you link to your most recently completed town game and your most recently completed scumgame?

People are talking about a "tone difference" but I never actually looked through your meta.

Empire · Post Post #8094 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Prodding Casso the King of Seals and KoreanBBQ.

pieguyn · Post Post #8095 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:59 pm

town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=35988

scum: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=32348
this is the most recent one I've played to completion on MS but since then there was a scumgame where I was in a hydra and we got replaced and then another one where I replaced out. there's also one offsite
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=36919
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=39225
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/173126

pieguyn · Post Post #8096 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:01 pm

Sakura plz answer my question

In post 8085, pieguyn wrote:
@Sakura:
do you still think Casso is scum and if so do you think Casso is bussing BBQ? and if so what happened to you saying casso wouldn't bus his entire scumteam?

Prophylaxis · Post Post #8097 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:03 pm

Alright, thanks. I'll see if I can skim over them if I have time.

I think all I want to do for toDay is for goodmorning and Marangal to reprove their daychat (does anyone have any ideas? This is just mostly me settling paranoia) and lynch Casso.

Casso the King of Seals · Post Post #8098 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:29 am

@Sakura - I'm pushing on Pie. Try to keep up.

@Marangal - Here's the comment from Nacho I'm going off of;

In post 7901, Casso the King of Seals wrote:I can see a certain degree of detachment because of RL, but Sakura has never been the type to completely disengage because Large Game (ever, really). It didn't feel like she was trying to sort us on our end, and we never found any significant town markers (especially since Sakura normally hits her town markers hard early on) and we found tons of scum blips.

All I did was scroll back up through his posts and look for any commentary from him on when he last mentioned people. Since he mentioned her as questionable and I really didn't give a hang/have a read I tossed her out as well.

@Proph - you think their prior proof is questionable? Also, what's your case on me other than 'oddly easy and available wagon', natch?

Pie didn't mention my case.
Just saying.

Casso the King of Seals · Post Post #8099 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:30 am

Actually I have to take some of the above back, I mixed up Pie and Sakura's avatars.