Micro 303: Tarot uPick - Game Over!

[Kagami]

I'm the Tower, town 1-shot vig.

I get one nightkill, and I'm told that my ability may change.
I had expected the change to be dependent on my target choice, but have received no PMs indicating such.

[GuyInFreezer]

1SV in micro?

[Kagami]

Unless someone can confirm that the actual mafia nightkill was prevented, I see little means of getting out of this; so here's some setup spec for everyone.

I know relatively little about Thoth tarot interpretation, but it's fairly clear that Ferry does and that she's put significant effort into making this setup and having it be consistent with Thoth tarot readings. A quick google may lead you to the corax site that has a great set of explanations for the major arcana.

Note that we all seem to have two abilities. On the site I found, there is a quick explanation of the interpretations of the different cards, together with three things at the bottom: "drive," "light," and shadow. I don't know what exactly these are, by I assume they're related to the different readings for upright and upside-down orientations of other tarot decks.

Now look at the "light" and "drive" readings of each of those cards. These readings correlate heavily with what abilities go with which cards. I suspect scum get something corresponding to "drive" and "shadow."


TIP: The Lovers

Drive: Devotion, melting into one another, being one with it, love. <-- Nieghbor
Light: Full-hearted confession, trust, optimism <-- Inventor (you give a power to someone you trust)


PN: The Sun

Drive: Aiming at the light, living for generous, unconditional principles <-- Asceticism
Light: Vitality, generosity, warmth <-- Motivation


Kagami: The Tower

Drive: Breaking up structures, destroying the old, getting rid of obsolete loads <-- 1-shot vig
Light: Sudden realization of the truth, the will to change old ways, to recreate life and start something new <-- changing ability. Poss if I shot no one? Maybe alignment change if I had shot scum?

[Kagami]

1SV in micro?

Yep, I hope this will also lead you to re-evaluating your opinion about hated-ness. I strongly suspect that Ferry put her theme above site meta. She very clearly cares about this.

[GuyInFreezer]

I just found the page and looked at my stuff and wow.
I could've been an innocent child.

[GuyInFreezer]

Maybe alignment change if I had shot scum?

The best role.

[GuyInFreezer]

1SV in micro?

Yep, I hope this will also lead you to re-evaluating your opinion about hated-ness. I strongly suspect that Ferry put her theme above site meta. She very clearly cares about this.

The difference is that their hatedness is proven while your 1SV is not.
Also putting 1SV in 9p setup easily leads to D2 MyLo if mislynched D1 and misvig'd N1, which harms town. Why would fery put 1SV in the micro setup?

[Kagami]

I'll say this in my defense:

PN is a very obvious vig kill. He was far, far from a strong townie and was the obvious choice for a vig.

He had already soft-claimed The Sun, and there's no reasonable interpretation of that card that implies an investigator or something that scum might be afraid of. He hadn't softed anything threatening to scum either. There's no motivation for killing him if I were scum.

Also, this is part of why I was lurktastically lurkiful day 1 (aside from my general disinterest in day 1 activity), I knew I'd get my kill choice (was TIP) anyway, so I didn't need to push the lynch. As long as I wasn't lynched, I didn't think I need to worry about being suspicious either, because I figured that once I had a claimable night kill, I'd be soft-confirmed by role (obviously, I expected two night kills).

[Kagami]

1SV in micro?

Yep, I hope this will also lead you to re-evaluating your opinion about hated-ness. I strongly suspect that Ferry put her theme above site meta. She very clearly cares about this.

The difference is that their hatedness is proven while your 1SV is not.
Also putting 1SV in 9p setup easily leads to D2 MyLo if mislynched D1 and misvig'd N1, which harms town. Why would fery put 1SV in the micro setup?

No idea. One possibility is that scum don't get a nightkill on night 1? Could also be a decent amount of protection, such that one kill failing was likely enough that it wouldn't matter.

[Nazarene]

Kagami how did you know gif knew you killed PN?

Giffy, what does that statement about you having been an IC mean?

I'll do my rereading soon.

-Tier

[Kagami]

I just found the page and looked at my stuff and wow.
I could've been an innocent child.

Ok, so your card is pretty obvious to me (and yes, it is the best one), and makes me think that my setup spec is quite wrong :<

[Kagami]

Kagami how did you know gif knew you killed PN?

Giffy, what does that statement about you having been an IC mean?

I'll do my rereading soon.

-Tier

He very clearly was softing a guilty, which means he's an investigator who isn't a cop. Tracker or gunsmith both require me to claim, and may as well do it right away.

[Kagami]

I just found the page and looked at my stuff and wow.
I could've been an innocent child.

Ok, so your card is pretty obvious to me (and yes, it is the best one), and makes me think that my setup spec is quite wrong :<

Well, I guess it fits the middle part of drive. Ok, I might still be right.

[Nazarene]

Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?

[Kagami]

Btw, My picks were:

1. The Tower
2. The Aeon
3. Fortune

[orcinus_theoriginal]

kagami

if you actually vigged PN

i will be so fucking pissed at you that was so retarded

[orcinus_theoriginal]

like i'm actually ridiculously and almost irrationally pissed why the fuck would you vig PN

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?

VOTE: nazarene

[Kagami]

like i'm actually ridiculously and almost irrationally pissed why the fuck would you vig PN

O.O

It seemed like by far the best choice...

I don't understand, why would I think he's town? Why would I think he might have a good PR I'd want to avoid?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

if you were playing yesterday

you should've had to like wash the towniness that bert bled out of your shirt

[orcinus_theoriginal]

the aptness of that figure of speech was completely unintentional

[Kagami]

I'm here

We are not lynching Bert yet

VOTE: TIP

Why "yet?"

[Nazarene]

Gif is your investigative role 1-shot?

VOTE: nazarene

Yo I'm just trying to gauge the likelyhood of gif getting a false positive.

Gif, you don't actually have to tell me your role but you may tell me if it's likely to get false positives.

[Kagami]

He almost certainly didn't get a false positive. He knows either that I could kill or that I targeted PN or something like that, and I've confirmed this.

[Nazarene]

Yeah I mean the chance of him getting untrustable results. I mean, if he gets something like full cop, there might be a chance of a miller or something. If he gets a 1-shot cop however this is way less likely. I think you can see what I'm getting at.