NY 169: The EPIC XD Mafia Game of Greatness (Game Over)

[KoreanBBQ]

Yup. After the lord charlston game.

[Sakura Hana]

So let's assume you're town, you get yourself lynched and tell the town to lynch me tomorrow and i... FLIP TOWN AS WELL! what did you achieve with that?

[KoreanBBQ]

Losing a game, and yell at nacho, because at that point it means the scum is casso/proph, which I don't see happening.

[KoreanBBQ]

If casso/proph are scum together, that means that there were flipping 4 scums on my wagon day 1.

[KoreanBBQ]

Back-to-back, even.

[Empire]

Day 8, Votecount 11

Prophylaxis (3)

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Casso the King of Seals, Ms Marangal, KoreanBBQ

Casso the King of Seals (2)

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pieguyn, Prophylaxis

KoreanBBQ (1)

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Sakura Hana

Not Voting (1)

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goodmorning

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch! It is now Day 8! Deadline is on March 24th at 11:35 AM EST or in (expired on 2014-03-24 11:34:56).

Mod Notes

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goodmorning is V/LA until April 1st.

[pieguyn]

remember this wagon from IN:

no vc last night on account of i was drunk

Votecount 1.8

[3]

MafiaSSK

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zMuffinMan

,

BROseidon

,

Psychlone

)
[2]

BROseidon

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thenewearth

,

mastin2

)
[2]

pieguyn

(

Varsoon

,

Mac

)
[2]

thenewearth

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pieguyn

,

thezmon221

)
[1]

Morph the Cat

(

waynegg

)

[3] Not Voting (

MafiaSSK

,

Morph the Cat

,

Ghostly Penguin

)

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-14 13:00:00)

Nacho and zmuffin were both scum and they all piled on this wagon to manipulate the VCA. so that wagon in no way implies Casso/Proph team is impossible and we shouldn't discount the possibility justbc of that

[Empire]

Prodding Prophylaxis.

[pieguyn]

You have the most experience with Sakura, meaning you know her play style better than most and generally won't read her off play style things. This translates into you knowing how to read her better than most. What about this explanation isn't clicking for you? Results in reading accuracy don't always translate into ability to read accurately.

if I read her better than most then my reads on her should obviously be accurate considering I'D KNOW HOW TO READ HER. but they're not and I always misread her. so I obviously don't know how to read her. your implication in the last sentence is backwards - if I can read her accurately, than my read on her should be accurate. since it's not, I can't read her

you should also know how hard it is to actually read her considering that newbie game where everything she did was intended to fool you. given she's capable of shit like that, why are you so surprised I'm not sure about her?

also why would you expect me to be able to see town Sakura considering YOU YOURSELF WERE SCUMREADING HER ON D1 AND THOUGHT HER PLAY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE USUAL SAKURA? if you actually believed this then you shouldn't be so surprised that I'm not sure on her either, especially when the only reason you gave for townreading her afaik was her response to the wagon on D1. you're asking me to see smth that you don't even think is there. so what's going on? this feels like smth you just made up after I called you on your false BOP argument

[pieguyn]

My take on this is that now you think that i'm not a possible Casso partner on whom you got your read wrong but Proph instead, then why are you questioning GM, A mason on her read on me when you've apparently already sorted me out?

I haven't sorted you out yet. atm Proph is my first bet but I haven't put in enough analysis to figure it out for sure. GM seems p confident in her read on you and so I wanted to know what she's thinking

I feel like you're putting words in my mouth. I outright said I haven't figured out which one it is yet and Proph is the best I can do just based on what I have. how did you get the idea I've sorted you from the post you quoted?

[Sakura Hana]

I have no idea. I have townreads on all of {Sakura, BBQ, Proph} and then there's Casso. so either there's 4 scum or one of my townreads is wrong and I have no time or energy to figure out which one it is. gun to the head, yes on both and Proph for potential Casso partner

Here's your post again, you state that

1) You have townreads on Me, BBQ, Proph.
2) If one of your reads is wrong it's Proph
3) Proph is a potential Casso partner.

Ergo, you don't see me as a Casso potential partner unless you've lynched Casso and Proph and Proph flips town... which by then god help us all.

[Sakura Hana]

Another question tho, gun to your head, Casso flips town where do you go next.

[pieguyn]

I still wanna lynch Casso today

he's the last one left and I'm paranoid if we lynch someone else the remaining players won't wanna lynch Casso. the last 4 people who died all wanted to lynch Casso. I refuse to believe there's not smth to that. I don't give a shit how ridiculous it is. the last thing I need is for Casso-scum to win against me again despite me pegging him bc he was able to successfully kill off everyone who suspected him. plus the fact that BBQ now has Casso 3rd on his lynch list is making me paranoid of a BBQ x Casso team . this would make the situation especially dangerous if Proph gets lynched bc it'd literally just be me and GM left who'd wanna lynch Casso and they could just NK one of them

overall a Casso lynch has the least risk by far and is the most likely to flip scum

[pieguyn]

if Casso flips town I'm completely lost. which is another reason I wanna lynch him immediately (information)

shooting from the ass, Proph + one of you/BBQ bc the way Nero tried to 1v1 you earlier. and if I really have to pick between you and BBQ I'll probably just suicide although I'd lean towards BBQ

[Sakura Hana]

Assume a scum team of Casso + Proph who's making the kills

[pieguyn]

both F-16 and Norl were townreading Proph. am I missing smth?

[Sakura Hana]

That's not what I asked tho.

[pieguyn]

I don't get it. what are you asking?

[Sakura Hana]

Assume a scum team of Casso + Proph who's making the kills

[pieguyn]

no I meant I don't get where you're going with this. what do you want me to answer after assuming a Casso x Proph team?

[Sakura Hana]

Because that's where you're going at?

[pieguyn]

F-16 and Norl both wanted to lynch Casso and Tammy was expressing suspicion of him

besides that I don't think Proph matters here and I don't wanna speculate too much on NKs for no reason. the major point with all the kills is probably to get rid of threats to Casso. I don't wanna rule ppl out just bc of NKs when it probably doesn't even matter

on top of that I don't think it makes any more sense if you swap in BBQ or you. Norl was scumreading BBQ but I don't know if that means anything

[Sakura Hana]

I don't know if you're being obtuse on purpose or you really don't get it...
You're assuming Casso + Proph (and proph only IF there's a 2nd scum alive)
Who out of Casso and Proph delivered the kill on Norlkaz, not who wanted him dead.
I mean it can't be more obvious than that on what i'm asking now =/

[pieguyn]

oh

I'm assuming there's a scumdoc bc it fits with the setup, so assuming 2 scum it'd be whoever isn't the scumdoc. besides that I have no idea 0.0

[Sakura Hana]

Well that doesn't really help me any =/