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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:10 am

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In post 2248, Thesp wrote:One more vote on kabooooom and I move my vote there as well.
i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.

as for my wagon, its terrible!
i m going to keep my vote as it is for now.
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:12 am

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In post 2250, kabooooom wrote:i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.
Because he only wants to be voting the biggest wagon.
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:19 am

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In post 2249, Thor665 wrote:We're past the policy point - vote for people you think are scum.
lolno. you should know, leaving people who are a policy lynch to end game is not the game I want to play. I'm not town reading kabooooom and my scum reads aren't being voted. 2+2
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:19 am

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Vote Count 4.11


Bulbazak (3) - inHimshallibe, Sotty7, Thesp
petroleumjelly (2) - Aegor, kabooooom
Aegor (2) - emeraldemon, Bulbazak
Thor665 (2) - HighShroomish, Rainbowdash
Rainbowdash (1) - Thor665
kabooooom (1) - emogirl123

Not voting (1) - petroleumjelly

With twelve players alive, it takes seven votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day Four is Thursday, 27th March 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-03-27 20:00:00)).


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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:23 am

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In post 2250, kabooooom wrote:as for my wagon, its terrible!
sorry. VOTE: Bulbazak.
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:23 am

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In post 2251, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2250, kabooooom wrote:i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.
Because he only wants to be voting the biggest wagon.
From a subset of {kabooooom, inHimshallibe, RainbowDash, Bulbazak}, absolutely.
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:27 am

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I probably won't get a chance to clarify any of my posts anymore, so if anyone needs anything from me, just ask. Otherwise I'm going to lurk.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:48 am

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In post 2255, Thesp wrote:
In post 2251, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2250, kabooooom wrote:i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.
Because he only wants to be voting the biggest wagon.
From a subset of {kabooooom, inHimshallibe, RainbowDash, Bulbazak}, absolutely.
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:50 am

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In post 2257, inHimshallibe wrote:
In post 2255, Thesp wrote:
In post 2251, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2250, kabooooom wrote:i dont get this. i remember thor did this too, but why are you waiting for someone else to vote. i m asking in general irrespective of my wagon.
Because he only wants to be voting the biggest wagon.
From a subset of {kabooooom, inHimshallibe, RainbowDash, Bulbazak}, absolutely.
Am I bussing Bulbazak?
I haven't looked into whether a inHimshallibe/Bulbazak team is persuasive.
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:29 am

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In post 2256, emogirl123 wrote:I probably won't get a chance to clarify any of my posts anymore, so if anyone needs anything from me, just ask. Otherwise I'm going to lurk.
what do u think of thesp?
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:14 am

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VOTE: Bulba

Tomorrow, I am voting for kab and no one else.
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:55 am

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And it all collapses into derp.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:58 am

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That is uncalled-for.
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:11 am

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If it makes you feel better I was casting my bet very very wide with that comment, it wasn't directed at you alone.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:13 pm

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VOTE: AEGOR

Ch-ch-ch-ch-chainsaw!!!
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:30 pm

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In post 2238, inHimshallibe wrote:Above is talking to Aegor, and I just don't really see where it's coming from - if I could get the context of this cleared up I'd be right by Sotty.
So I went into this game looking to work with ABR, I was kinda upset he was distant but he can be like that at times. However as the game wore on it became something I could deny less and less as his meta until it became somewhat clear he was actually scum. I gave him plenty of time, maybe too much to kick into townABR and he just didn't, so I changed my mind on him. That's pretty much it. I didn't really change my mind during a big discussion in thread so there looks to be little progression I am sure.

Out of the wagons around I would switch to Rainbow and maybe PJ but not Kab. I do think bulb is the best option of the viable wagons right now. Lets lynch there okay? Okay.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:00 pm

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I am 1000000000000000000000% sure Bulba and RBD are town. As cabd would put it, they are town as fuck.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:10 pm

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In post 2266, HighShroomish wrote:I am 1000000000000000000000% sure Bulba and RBD are town. As cabd would put it, they are town as fuck.
Howso? Because that's how I'd consider Aegor.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:58 pm

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In post 2267, Thesp wrote:
In post 2266, HighShroomish wrote:I am 1000000000000000000000% sure Bulba and RBD are town. As cabd would put it, they are town as fuck.
Howso? Because that's how I'd consider Aegor.
They are playing exactly how I have seen town play before, and the only person that was scum played that way for half a game day. I look for parallels between games a good bit. And use intense shower logic.
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:00 pm

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Well, I would love to swing back to kab, so let me know if you peeps are willing.
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:35 pm

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In post 2264, HighShroomish wrote:
VOTE: AEGOR

Ch-ch-ch-ch-chainsaw!!!
You've still missed this; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5763087

I don't care that you've now moved on to voting Aegor - I still want you to back up your comments about RBD's case since apparently you still think she's "town as Smurf".
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:36 pm

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Stopping at around page 73.

1.)
I still haven't actually gotten to the Albert B. Rampage lynch itself, but my general impressions of the scum strategy around that time of the game would be something like so:

Day One ended with a Slandaar lynch with Slandaar essentially trying to pull Albert B. Rampage down with him in the end. Albert B. Rampage and his scumpartners would naturally expect Albert B. Rampage to come under some degree of attack the following day; if there was a plan it was probably to "play it by ear but be ready to bus." I believe there were a few players who were defending / enabling Albert B. Rampage on Day One who cut him considerably less slack on Day Two. I am not inclined to give anybody Townpoints for changing their mind on him.

2.)
I actually find it very interesting that Chevre (my predecessor) tried a nightkill analysis on the N1 Yessiree kill, and what is particularly amusing is his conclusion that Albert B. Rampage was probably Town because, in essence, it would be too obvious for him to kill Yessiree. Very few people seemed to weigh in on the analysis at all save for PF Tony, who actually decided that based on the evidence to vote Albert B. Rampage.
That
is the type of thing that warrants Townpoints. I will want to return to posts around that time because scum would obviously rather leave that particular hornet's nest alone, so anybody who engaged with Chevre at that point of the game was likely to be doing so in good faith.

3.)
In the last few pages of my read (pages 70-73?) I am becoming
increasingly
suspicious of RainbowDash. She has a thing for "loyalty" and I have to think that is a likely reason she was so vehemently pushing the kabooooom lynch over the Albert B. Rampage lynch. It practically looked like she was avoiding saying the name Albert B. Rampage (and this is likely not
literally
true) in her posts in an effort to put the focus on kabooooom. Granted I replaced into the game with the context that Albert B. Rampage is scum, but RainbowDash's posting still feels highly unnatural during that stage of the game.

4.)
Sotty7, could you explain again why you changed your mind on Albert B. Rampage.

5.)

In post 1580, inHimshallibe wrote:
In post 1578, Sotty7 wrote:
Vote: ABR


This guy really needs to die.

Bulb is also probably scum at this point. His whole interaction with fonz/Tebow on day one was really off. Fonz pours the heat on him and at one point Bulb makes a comment about how he was barely paying attention to him when all he had done for posts before was reply in their little back and forth. Their whole interaction just really struck me as off. Throw on his weak suspicion of emo that he just keeps falling back on and we have scum.
Noted for later.

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inHimshallibe, has this note to yourself resulted in anything?

6.)
bulbazak's early comments about Mountainous (and this set-up in particular) and then later presuming the game had four scum felt very off, and although the subject was explored by somebody (I think Nero Cain logged in under a different account to address it), I will want to return to that at some point. Up until that comment I had actually had a weak Townread on bulbazak.
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:20 am

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In post 2270, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2264, HighShroomish wrote:
VOTE: AEGOR

Ch-ch-ch-ch-chainsaw!!!
You've still missed this; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5763087

I don't care that you've now moved on to voting Aegor - I still want you to back up your comments about RBD's case since apparently you still think she's "town as Smurf".
Go read her ISO. Oh, wait, you're not going to agree with any of that because RBD has already said it and you didn't like it...
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:32 am

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In post 2271, petroleumjelly wrote:4.) Sotty7, could you explain again why you changed your mind on Albert B. Rampage.
There really is nothing to add to what I posted in 2265 unless you have a specific question.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:34 am

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In post 2272, HighShroomish wrote:
In post 2270, Thor665 wrote:
In post 2264, HighShroomish wrote:
VOTE: AEGOR

Ch-ch-ch-ch-chainsaw!!!
You've still missed this; http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5763087

I don't care that you've now moved on to voting Aegor - I still want you to back up your comments about RBD's case since apparently you still think she's "town as Smurf".
Go read her ISO. Oh, wait, you're not going to agree with any of that because RBD has already said it and you didn't like it...
I'm asking you a specific question that cannot be answered by me reading her ISO. I'm asking you for your opinions - I cannot glean your opinions from Rainbow's ISO.
If you can explain how I'm supposed to, maybe that would help, but as far as I can tell it wouldn't.

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