Mini 1564 - Nyctapolis (~owari~)

[pieguyn]

votecount 1.5

Cheery Dog (5) - Empking, Remilia Scarlet, InsidiousLemons, undo, Faster Than Light
InsidiousLemons (2) - Cheery Dog, thenewearth
Raging Bull (1) - Number_0ne
iamsteve (1) - Raging Bull
Remilia Scarlet (1) - notSakura
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - Tanzklaue
undo (1) - iamsteve

Not voting (1) - Shattered Viewpoint

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 4/7, 17:30 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2014-04-07 17:30:00).

[Faster Than Light]

FTL: What made you feel critical of me?

Your input and votes felt very surface-level to me. Right now I don't know how much to chalk it up to play-style or actively keeping the game at arm's length.



@Undo: Yeah, Sonic and I touched base. All those things you mentioned are good, but terrifying when scum can replicate them. It's important to test their validity.

[Faster Than Light]

Game seems to be going well.

Game seems to be going well.

Maybe, but it'd sure be going better if you'd post something of substance.

Pretty much this, in short.

[Faster Than Light]

Because I've developed a town read on him, duh.

From one post (22), yeah?
Because that's all he had, contentwise, at the time you called that shot terrible (I am not counting and would not expect you to be townreading him from #31)
And you also implied the post was nothing impressive in post 28. Why exactly would you be townreading him yet?

And to denounce the (pretty surefire) fake vig on him but not denounce any vote on him (which, in contrast, could actually could work toward mislynching him) or to really not even call him town until directly questioned about what you were talking about in response to the vig doesn't seem to come from a true desire to defend a townread.

VOTE: Cheery

-bork

Being indifferent is different to ignoring.
But as you can see my reaction I had here has gained me a wagon, therefore not in scum's interest.

God I hate this point. "This thing I did had negative consequences for me; there's no way I'd do it as scum"
If scum always knew how their posts would be interpreted as they made them, they'd pretty much never be caught by day play.

-b

I'm with bork on this one.
May have to make a case of my own one day,
Sunday, probably. Looks like it'll be a busy week.
Anyway, for future reference, I'm looking at a V/LA for a little while, so yeah.
I hope Metal Sonic is cruise control for cool.

-V

[Faster Than Light]

Somewhere down the line, I need to look at some meta from the players I am not so familiar with.
At least Metal Sonic knows the ones I'm not so sure of.

-V

[Number_0ne]

UNVOTE:

First of all, I'd like to mention my stance on the CheeryDog wagon. I'm not convinced that he's scum. While his stance has quickly become anti-town, I don't see how its any more deserving of a lynch than others with similar behaviors, like SV, Empking, or myself. I don't find him to be scum. However, lynching him might be better since it may point us in the right direction for finding scum, should he flip town, and of no loss if he's scum.

[InsidiousLemons]

UNVOTE:

First of all, I'd like to mention my stance on the CheeryDog wagon. I'm not convinced that he's scum. While his stance has quickly become anti-town, I don't see how its any more deserving of a lynch than others with similar behaviors, like SV, Empking, or myself. I don't find him to be scum. However, lynching him might be better since it may point us in the right direction for finding scum, should he flip town, and of no loss if he's scum.

Explain why you think SV and Empking are equally good lynches to Cheery Dog, and vice versa.

[Remilia Scarlet]

UNVOTE:

First of all, I'd like to mention my stance on the CheeryDog wagon. I'm not convinced that he's scum. While his stance has quickly become anti-town, I don't see how its any more deserving of a lynch than others with similar behaviors, like SV, Empking, or myself. I don't find him to be scum. However, lynching him might be better since it may point us in the right direction for finding scum, should he flip town, and of no loss if he's scum.

Stances are good! I like this post: I think he recognizes that I am (partly) basing my read on emotional responses and reactions to pressure.
But really that's largely in part due to the fact that this game is pretty stagnant.

Still, the other part is that I don't really like the manner in which he has attacked Lemons or defended Steve, regardless of the alignments of those two slots.

I'm willing to entertain any other reads you have.

-b

[Remilia Scarlet]

Still, the other part is that I don't really like the manner in which

he

has attacked Lemons or defended Steve, regardless of the alignments of those two slots.

"He" being Cheery, not Number 0ne. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

-b

[Remilia Scarlet]

I intend to vote you until you say the magic words btw

It's a wooooooord
LOVE

[Remilia Scarlet]

@borkinfreezer: I really wanna hear from GiF wrt the Tanz scumread.

Because tanz being lazy is unacceptable (My tanz read changed since 163 though)

[notSakura]

@borkinfreezer: I really wanna hear from GiF wrt the Tanz scumread.

Because tanz being lazy is unacceptable (My tanz read changed since 163 though)

Oh i see, and do you have any idea what is it that ns wants you to do/say or whatever he wants from you? Because he doesn't want to let me know =/

[Remilia Scarlet]

He wants me to say the T-word. I'm not gonna say it to him because screw him.
I'll call you town, though.

[thenewearth]

I'm pretty sure you guys already said why tanz is scum.

But I really don't see it.

Be it the lurking and the question dodging, I still see it as the natural tanz town.

[Tanzklaue]

except i neither dodged questions nor do i hardcore lurk.

i am also pretty sure that we weren't in the same game for over half a year TNE.

[pieguyn]

iamsteve has been prodded.

[Cheery Dog]

We're town.
I'm fairly certain of a few other people being town so far, too.
-V

Considering you made a huge fuss after getting banned for making comments like this last year, how come you're still doing it?

and drawing incorrect conclusions, such as "This didn't work for me as town so I wouldn't do it as scum."

You want to try telling me how I play more?

What you're now trying to use is a meta argument without knowing the facts.

[Cheery Dog]

Still, the other part is that I don't really like the manner in which he has attacked Lemons or defended Steve, regardless of the alignments of those two slots.

This is the vaguest shit ever. I could be completely right and you're still go after me on playstyle?

[Remilia Scarlet]

This is the vaguest shit ever. I could be completely right and you're still go after me on playstyle?

Do you really want to boil down everything I've said about you to 'objections to your playstyle?' Does that really sound like what I'm saying?

I don't have the luxury of Lemons/Steve flips (although between GIF and me we're townreading Lemons and undecided on Steve), so I'm unsure of exactly what you're objecting to here. But let's say you're right and Lemons is scum: should that absolve you from being scum or is there more to it than that?

-b

[Remilia Scarlet]

Because he doesn't want to let me know =/

I kinda (a little) think you guys are town for this but tell NS that he's kind of being an antitown cockbag.
Now is the time to do something useful with your vote because it's in a shit spot right now.

-b

[Number_0ne]

Explain why you think SV and Empking are equally good lynches to Cheery Dog, and vice versa.

I don't think they're equally good lynches. I was just commenting on their stances and attitudes on the current game. I don't find that his defense of iamsteve is indicative of his alignment. While you've said he's buddying Steve, who you find scummy, I don't really see that as a tell. If he was defending Steve from a lynch, then sure. But I can't see enough evidence to say he and Steve are reasonably close to scumbuddies.

UNVOTE:

First of all, I'd like to mention my stance on the CheeryDog wagon. I'm not convinced that he's scum. While his stance has quickly become anti-town, I don't see how its any more deserving of a lynch than others with similar behaviors, like SV, Empking, or myself. I don't find him to be scum. However, lynching him might be better since it may point us in the right direction for finding scum, should he flip town, and of no loss if he's scum.

Stances are good! I like this post: I think he recognizes that I am (partly) basing my read on emotional responses and reactions to pressure.
But really that's largely in part due to the fact that this game is pretty stagnant.

Still, the other part is that I don't really like the manner in which he has attacked Lemons or defended Steve, regardless of the alignments of those two slots.

I'm willing to entertain any other reads you have.

-b

I'd rather not give any reads until after a flip. I have some people I suspect for town, but not strong suspects for scum.

[notSakura]

Well SV is still lurking, doing nothing, not providing any info, and ns is sick and let me take the handle for now

Unvote
Vote: SV

I think i rather pressure here, this guy has done literally nothing to progress the game and all he does is call for lynch and lurk.

[notSakura]

Also Tanz can go back to the null pile now that i've seen his first scum game, due to paranoia added to the fact that I haven't seen him do much this game yet. Being on MS is understandable cause of feeling nervous, but not a reason to not do anything to move the game forward.

[pieguyn]

man I stayed up way too long for this

[pieguyn]

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