Newbie 1486: Sandcastle Mafia--Game Over

[tn5421]

I'll explain it once she agrees or disagrees.

I have to wonder if you're going for a double-blind bluff here.

[theslimer3]

UNVOTE:

Noticed that you were possibly going to lynch him?

[Cabd]

Eh, just realized I hadn't unvoted. I'll vote when I feel like it.

[tn5421]

Eh, just realized I hadn't unvoted. I'll vote when I feel like it.

I don't feel like this is the truth. You also seem to be going out of your way to seem suspicious. I have to wonder what you're planning.....I don't suppose you'll volunteer any information on what you're trying to do?

[Cabd]

Nope!

(You can ask somebody like mala what I'm notorious for, though)

[penguin_alien]

Locking thread for just a couple minutes...

[penguin_alien]

Locking thread for just a couple minutes...

Still working. Lost time will be added on to the deadline.

[penguin_alien]

Locking thread for just a couple minutes...

Still working. Lost time will be added on to the deadline.

Play may proceed. I'll add on lost time to the deadline. I will answer any questions about what caused the delay only after the game is completed.

[theslimer3]

If it is truth, the translation of this is "I'll place my vote back there, all according to whether or not I want to lynch him or not"
Or is that stretching it?


@ninja: This is a newbie, Cabd, in my opinion newbies don't care too much about it

@SUPERMODNINJA

Don't interrupt me.
I was going to post stuff,
That thread lock stopped me.

Donning ninja mask
Messing with theslimer's life
Such a happy day!

[tn5421]

Nope!

(You can ask somebody like mala what I'm notorious for, though)

I don't know about anyone else, but I find this

EXTREMELY

suspicious. And quite frankly, I can't trust him to tell me the truth about a personal matter. His only obligation is to truthfully answer rule questions.

[Cabd]

If it is truth, the translation of this is "I'll place my vote back there, all according to whether or not I want to lynch him or not"
Or is that stretching it?

Nah. It means I don't toss my vote around in general when I'm town. I don't think you've played with me a ton, but that's actually a cabd scumtell. Follow the voting.

[Cabd]

Nope!

(You can ask somebody like mala what I'm notorious for, though)

I don't know about anyone else, but I find this

EXTREMELY

suspicious. And quite frankly, I can't trust him to tell me the truth about a personal matter. His only obligation is to truthfully answer rule questions.

Mala is female; not male. Then read the games yourself. There's an index of msot of my games here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cabd

[tn5421]

Nope!

(You can ask somebody like mala what I'm notorious for, though)

I don't know about anyone else, but I find this

EXTREMELY

suspicious. And quite frankly, I can't trust him to tell me the truth about a personal matter. His only obligation is to truthfully answer rule questions.

Mala is female; not male. Then read the games yourself. There's an index of msot of my games here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cabd

Let me amend my statement then: I don't trust anyone to give me a truthful answer other than in regards to rule questions.

[Cabd]

Then you have a LOOOOOOOT of reading to do.

[theslimer3]

Then you have a LOOOOOOOT of reading to do.

Reading required to be the best scummer ever.

[tn5421]

Then you have a LOOOOOOOT of reading to do.

Reading required to be the best scummer ever.

I haven't even watched The Hunger Games, nor read it.

[theslimer3]

VOTE: tn5421
Conf scum ._.

[tn5421]

VOTE: tn5421
Conf scum ._.

.....Are you serious?

People from the Capitol just don't understand.

[tn5421]

The only reason I can even quote that at you is because I have an active Tumblr.

[tn5421]

VOTE: tn5421
Conf scum ._.

It's not like I put my hands inside his socks...

[Android122]

I don't think I have made a major post in a while so I might do a readlist:

Xayzeck: hindered by the fact he is replacing Volition who I scumread, however it could easily be the case that Volition was just a bad player, so Xayzeck could change this read reasonably easily. Especially due to the fact he seems keen to get involved, with meaningful posts like #224

Saltrox: minor townread at the moment, hard to get a firm opinion due to the fact, as he openly admits, he hasn't posted that much for a while. Just to note, as I have repeatedly shown, The Saltrox/slimer pairing you keep asking me for evidence for is due to the fact you both tried to make Grib look bad

Grib: still strong townread, due to high level of activity and keenness to get conversation flowing in the early game.

Cabd: difficult, his early post I think were more disruptive than anything else in my opinion, which I didn't like, however he then went on to do productive and helpful posts like #215. I would want to wait longer and get more evidence before coming to a firm conclusion but if I had to decide, I would lean towards town.

tn5421: still don't quite understand why he would want to encourage people to vote for him, this may have been to disrupt play, in which case I think him scum. Also I think the only other meaningful thing he has done is a detailed post about why he suspects me, and this could easily be seen as following Slimer's thoughts. Also his recent mysterious posts lean scum as well, however lets wait and see how that is resolved before passing judgement.

slimer: The most difficult one. I think he has pretty much succeeded in dismissing my original reasons to think him scum, and he does seem to want to help the newbies improve, which would benefit town, and these reasons would make me think town. However my slimer/saltrox pairing still holds in my opinion, so that points scum. Net result I think is town, but will become strongly scum if we were to lynch saltrox and find he was mafia.

Charlie: He is playing oddly, however, slimer has explained why reading playstyles is bad, and in my opinion that is why people are scumreading Charlie. still pretty null to me, seems happy to avoid the spotlight, which can be interpreted either way.

Mala: She seems to let the IC role dictate her play a bit too much, but that may just b my lack of experience leading me to not really understand how IC's should play. However I feel she has been very consistant, which leads me to think town. Just so you know, in #241, the spoilers are the wrong way round.

[tn5421]

I'm not encouraging people to vote for me, I'm simply not discouraging it. I feel slimer is on the right track about you, Android. Point out the 'mysterious' post, please.

[saltrox]

I'm a GIRL! Female, using female pronouns, she and her. It says it right under my avatar.

(I don't even like pink but hopefully this will get the message across)

@Android: I know that you've said that apparently I made Grib look bad but I don't think I did at all, even Grib agrees that I was just pointing out that the digging into wording and stuff like that wasn't that helpful, which doesn't suggest I thought he was scummy at all, just that the style of play wasn't particularly helpful. Grib has since become a lot clearer and less bogged down in the trivial which is very beneficial to the town. It's your lack of reasoning there than doesn't make sense to me and putting slimmer and I in a pairing based off that and that alone is just odd, especially since you keep saying it and that to me comes off as very scummy in trying to divert attention and not having justification for doing so.

@Mala: I get that some people are more passive, quieter players. I can understand that but I felt that post 105 was very scummy and I didn't understand why you felt the need to post like that. And I don't think that sitting back is the best way to play this game for town because it doesn't give any information to the town and if you then get killed by scum in the night then if you haven't said anything during the day then any and all information you had is gone and is useless to the town which sucks because those reads could have been really useful and something that the rest of us hadn't picked up on which could have been the key to working it out.

@Grib: Yeah, no worries. I'm not sure on slimer at the moment either.

@tn5421: When you're responding to a specific person if you could use their name that would be really helpful because I don't remember the numbers of my posts and so couldn't at first work out if you were talking to me or not.
I'm afraid that whether you like it or not, you are now bligpk. His words are your words if your logic doesn't fit with his then something's up because you have the role that he left behind. Therefore you will need to justify his actions. Saying you had a scum read on him is the same as having a scum read on yourself and your unwillingness to justify anything, saying that doing so would put you on the defensive, is in itself scummy as suggests that you have something to hide that you don't want to start being defensive of. The saying is innocent until proven guilty, i.e. that the defender is wrong until proven otherwise and the only way to definitively prove anything in this game is a card flip. As I've said, you're new to both this game and mafia as a whole so I am giving you time but I am not looking favourably on you.

[Android122]

sorry saltrox, I keep forgetting to check gender. I don't give any reasoning because there is none to give, I said from the very beginning that it was a weak read, and I only keep referring to it because you keep asking about it, I would be happy for us to just move on.

[tn5421]

If you think I'm scum, then why don't you prove it, saltrox?