Newbie 1486: Sandcastle Mafia--Game Over

[saltrox]

Also @Mala, specific reasoning for voting for Charlie?

[tn5421]

....How do you feel about where my vote is?

Bussing is a thing.

Doesn't that require a power role that isn't allowed to be in newbie games?

[saltrox]

Huh? No. All bussing requires is scum.

[saltrox]

Think now after some re-reads that actually you're not bussing. Only wagonning.

[tn5421]

I thought you meant 'Bus Driver' role.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=45035
Post 13 in this topic lead me to believe you meant the role bussing rather than 'distancing oneself from scum partner'.

The quote: Just had an enlightening discussion with a friend on the nature of bussing. Think of it like swapping disguises.

[tn5421]

Also, realistically I'm not on anyone's wagon because I'm still voting for Android122 and unless I'm quite mistaken I'm also the only person currently voting for him.

[saltrox]

You may be the only person currently voting for him but you're not the only person who has and also you're not the only person who's been suspicious of him.

The way I've always heard the term 'bussing' in Mafia is when ones scum throws another 'under the bus' I.e. They vote for them, sometimes even hammering them to try and cover their own back and try and "show" that they're not scum.

[tn5421]

But hammering is always suspicious, especially if you don't give the accused a chance to roleclaim.

[Grib]

VOTE: Android122

[tn5421]

So we're getting a little more serious in trying to remove someone? This brings android down to L-3 now, right?

[Grib]

L-3, yes. As for the seriousness, it's hard to say. Volition was at L-2 for quite a while and it never got past that, but that probably had something to do with the deadline being a week away.

I just noticed there are three L-3s right now.

[Malakittens]

L-3, yes. As for the seriousness, it's hard to say. Volition was at L-2 for quite a while and it never got past that, but that probably had something to do with the deadline being a week away.

I just noticed there are three L-3s right now.

So we're getting a little more serious in trying to remove someone? This brings android down to L-3 now, right?

Considering the deadline is almost 2 days away we should.

Also Charlie when did you start adopting this new playstyle?

[tn5421]

We are all over the place right now. The first to call for a wagon is probably going to be the person that gets wagoned and possibly hammered as well.

[Malakittens]

We are all over the place right now. The first to call for a wagon is probably going to be the person that gets wagoned and possibly hammered as well.

possibly

also who do you want to lynch?

[Grib]

Whose flip do you think would be most beneficial for us?

General question @ everyone. I'm for Android or Xayzeck, just because I'm having a harder time finding connections between Charlie and someone else.

[tn5421]

321 covers my sentiments on who should go, in order from most to least suspicious. (Talking to Mala when I say 'you' in that post)

[Malakittens]

Right now, I want to take a look at Charlie in more depth and I'll probably consult Cabd on this one in the future, but right now my current attention should be eaten by my research essay.

Also thanks Tn5421 for linking that. I'll look over it later when I'm doing operation bunny.

[penguin_alien]

Vote Count 1.11:

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch!

Xayzeck (L-4): Charlie
Android122 (L-3): tn5421, Grib
saltrox (L-5):
Grib (L-5):
Cabd (L-5):
tn5421 (L-5):
theslimer3 (L-4): Android122
Charlie (L-2): Xayzeck, saltrox, Malakittens
Malakittens (L-5):

Not voting: Cabd, theslimer3

V/LA:

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-04-06 14:12:54)

[saltrox]

Currently the people I am most suspicious of are Charlie, tn5421 and Android122 (in that order) although I'm less sure than I was. Information wise, I actually feel that we'd, at this point, get more information from lynching tn5421 than Charlie if tn5421 is scum but I don't know whether that's the best way to go or not.

@Grib Not sure you've mentioned Xayzeck as scum before, did I miss something?

@Everyone, same as Grib. Who are you wanting to lynch and why? My vote is not set in stone and am definitely open to good reasoning to vote differently at this point.

[Grib]

@Saltrox Not really. I want to vote for Android, but looking back I'm just wondering why Volition was hounding him so much. There was never any clarification before he was replaced. I'm certain he wasn't actually trying to deflect attention from himself because the way he was accusing Android was kind of obnoxious and it certainly got our attention, which makes me think he probably isn't scum. I may focus more on Xayzeck depending on how Android posts in the future/flips.

Out of all the candidates, Android seems to be more common on everyone's list. What's everyone thinking? Is this worth pursuing more than Charlie or tn?

[Android122]

I see that the general opinion is turning against me. I understand that i have been inconsistent with my reads but that is honestly just down to not having enough practice at showing a change of opinion without the benefit of body language. However, I would just say that isn't getting involved and making mistakes better than not really getting involved, like Charlie and more recently Cabd seem to be. I am not saying I think the above are scum, I'm just trying to explain my position. Also Grib can you clarify why you think me and Xayzeck are linked, if it is just the actions of a predecessor, who seemed to be a odd player anyway, is it not as minor a reason as my slimer/saltrox view that got so much criticism?

[Grib]

I see that the general opinion is turning against me. I understand that i have been inconsistent with my reads but that is honestly just down to not having enough practice at showing a change of opinion without the benefit of body language. However, I would just say that isn't getting involved and making mistakes better than not really getting involved, like Charlie and more recently Cabd seem to be. I am not saying I think the above are scum, I'm just trying to explain my position. Also Grib can you clarify why you think me and Xayzeck are linked, if it is just the actions of a predecessor, who seemed to be a odd player anyway, is it not as minor a reason as my slimer/saltrox view that got so much criticism?

But you went after those two because you said they tried to make me look bad, which wasn't their intention at all. They said as much, and I agree with them. You had the same opinion as them until you switched your vote to Slimer, were you trying to make me look bad too? I certainly don't think so. You also suspected Volition, who went after you, and I believe (for the moment at least) that Volition is town.

Maybe on its own, it'd be minor, but I'm not the only one who thinks you're scummy. You said yourself you've been inconsistent with your reads -- an updated list would be nice right about now. It's almost Sunday.

[tn5421]

342 was only a few posts ago...

[Malakittens]

?

[tn5421]

an updated list would be nice right about now

This was what post 347 was about, sorry for the confusion Mala. Also, when I see your name, I can't help but think "Malaclaw Venom".