The cacophony of debate begins. Everyone watching out for their own interests. So curious to see how they couch their self-serving natures in protestations of doing what is 'for the good of the group.' I do it too of course. Such is what I have learned in my second life. One must always hide one's true nature, lest others profit from it.
The First Official Tally
Aronis
- The Goodfather, SpyreX, displaced
The Goodfather
- Aronis, Empking
kthxbai
- Squirrel Girl, kagami
d3x
- kthxbai
katsuki
- vonflare
Squirrel Girl
- Katsuki
Not Voting:
d3x, MonkeyMan576, LLD
Prodded:
Katsuki, the Goodfather
The first evening continues. Sunrise in (expired on 2014-04-18 21:30:00).
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In post 15, displaced wrote:
We could make our diablerie noms public, someone keep a count and agree that everyone nominate the player with the most diablerie votes. As long as it's adhered to we minimize ghoulscum influence on the diablerie action?
This suggestion looks greatly in favor of scum, because it will indicate who they should nightkill (if they
have
a nightkill? Is there an example scum role PM? Probably not.)
Squirrel looks very town (vamp?) ATM, mostly because of her involved scumhunting.
In post 74, Aronis wrote:
Until I know I'm not going to die within five pages of the start, I have no reason to put effort into helping you idiots find scum.
More reasons to lynch me, Yay!
This is strange... whats up? Why are you not being helpful? give us motivation NOT to lynch you.
D3X:
In post 78, d3x wrote:I have 0 patience for players who don't play and then have a chip on their shoulder about it.
What are your thoughts on the KthxWagon? What are your thoughts on Kthx?
Being pushy, reminds me of Albert B Rampage. Anger isn't usually alignment-indicative, though.
Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about Kthx. Did he do something scummy? maybe I missed it.
More reads coming when I get some.
Pedit: vonnyboy? XD no one's used that one before.
Removed the stray Quote tag, as funny as it was. I'll leave the previous alone, but I'm willing to fix them in the future.
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In post 87, Aronis wrote:
Displaced, the nomination idea was not ideal
People keep saying this and are probably right but what about the flipside? Not having some organization means the scum team are gonna get the vitae for themselves more often than not. This is just as bad (or worse?) than giving scum extra incentive to kill a particular person, isn't it? I agree that my idea is flawed but we should still try to figure a way to do this better imo
I can see both sides, but ultimately I feel like it's secret for a good reason. We can't risk having everyone who gets vitae killed off, so unless a doctor can protect them I still think No and that would require a doctor claiming and they could be killed the next day. I guess BP would work too, but then scum could just claim that.
The cacophony of debate begins. Everyone watching out for their own interests. So curious to see how they couch their self-serving natures in protestations of doing what is 'for the good of the group.' I do it too of course. Such is what I have learned in my second life. One must always hide one's true nature, lest others profit from it.
The First Official Tally
Aronis
- The Goodfather, SpyreX, displaced
The Goodfather
- Aronis, Empking
kthxbai
- Squirrel Girl, kagami
d3x
- kthxbai
katsuki
- vonflare
LLD
- Vonflare
Squirrel Girl
- Katsuki
Not Voting:
d3x, MonkeyMan576
Prodded:
Katsuki, the Goodfather
The first evening continues. Sunrise in (expired on 2014-04-18 21:30:00).
Mod: Is this Vote Count Correct?
All Moderator vote counts are 100% correct. Some players may be voting for the wrong people. Tell me if they are and I'll discipline them harshly.
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Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.
13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
In post 98, d3x wrote:
@displaced- What are your thoughts on vonflare's read of Katsuki?
I think it's overblown
Overblown? explain.
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You attached too much import to a post that was obviously silly and you assume scumkats would be this transparent?
I don't know scumkats.
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In post 111, displaced wrote:Neither do I but it's a bit too blatant for anyone? I guess it could come from really ballsy, trolly scum?
Hey, I don't know anyone here. I just go with what i'm given.
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In post 99, vonflare wrote:Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about Kthx. Did he do something scummy? maybe I missed it.
Mostly I don't like the cut of his jib. He feels like he's picking on easy targets and is reactive attacking anything that questions him. I don't feel like he's trying to scumhunt and he feels a little obstructive to me. That's about all I got, it's pretty thin, but the only other real vibe I got to dig on is Lady Lamba being mean to some while also buddying others or Aronis and the question of his roleslip. Neither of those feels really runaway to me either, so I'm interested in exploring the Kthxbye one.
In post 98, d3x wrote:ftr- I don't think the displaced nom idea was scummy, just more relevant when discussed closer to the actual Lynch.
@Kagami- What are your thoughts on the recent LLD/displaced discussion of ranking clans?
@displaced- What are your thoughts on vonflare's read of Katsuki?
do we really have a Katsuki and a Kagami in this game? ffs, I'm going to mix them up every damn time.
I'm interested in the spyrex-LLD reachout. I was scumreading LLD earlier, but some of her recent posts have reversed that. There's been a setup-related tell I've been looking for that has already yielded a very strong displaced townread, so I am quite happy to observe the flavor/setup spec.
We could always agree to vote to push diablerie votes onto a lurker/scummy. Worst case scenario is this sends vitae to a scum player - something scum can probably orchestrate with unorganized voting regardless. Best case this sends an infusion of vitae to a town player who scum now need to consider killing who, otherwise, they would have happily ignored.
This actually sounds stupid enough to be brilliant! What do other people think?
We could always agree to vote to push diablerie votes onto a lurker/scummy. Worst case scenario is this sends vitae to a scum player - something scum can probably orchestrate with unorganized voting regardless. Best case this sends an infusion of vitae to a town player who scum now need to consider killing who, otherwise, they would have happily ignored.
This looks suspiciously like a reaction test...
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But the idea has merit. although, the risk is that the whole town could not vote to put the diablerie on the SAME lurker. But it would add wifom to the scum's nightkill (I think we can safely assume that they have a NK.)
but on the other hand, PRs have more incentive to be active, so sending diablerie to lurkers might not be the best strategy if they all have no powers.
Any other thoughts?
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Hey guys, I kinda lost track of this game. I am finishing up a work assignment today, and I will reread the thread tonight and post reads and thoughts tomorrow.
TBH, I don't know the flavor at all, but I am inclined to trust Aronis because of the comment he made about the win con.
In post 119, vonflare wrote:But the idea has merit. although, the risk is that the whole town could not vote to put the diablerie on the SAME lurker. But it would add wifom to the scum's nightkill (I think we can safely assume that they have a NK.)
but on the other hand, PRs have more incentive to be active, so sending diablerie to lurkers might not be the best strategy if they all have no powers.
Any other thoughts?
PRs have every incentive to be inactive; powerful PRs often play like survivors for obvious reasons. The idea isn't terrible at all, though it involves an assumption I think is false.
1. I don't think the ghouls just open up our caskets during the day, stab us with a tomato stake, and walk away. They drink our delicious vitae-filled blood and almost certainly gain that vitae. That seems almost certain to me, and I don't see them getting two opportunities to grab vitae per day especially given ...
2. They would easily control the diablerie if they can nom it. As displaced correctly said, without organization we have no chance of outvoting the day-chatting unified scumgroup. Even if they're forced to nom town, they would just push the diablerie on whoever they plan to kill. There's no chance the GreyICE and his reviewers missed that all the vitae would go to scum every day.
