Micro 322 - Managerial Merry Go Round Mafia

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/confirm

First game in MS where I know or kinda meta a few players here

Time to catch da scumz

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VOTE: hannah

Getting mafia is fun

Hannah is having fun

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I just woke up and I notice game left rvc so fast lol.

Will post analysis when I feel more awake

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/confirm

This is gonna be goooood fun!!

This post might be a slip later on that does not mean scum or town. I prefer to keep this unexplained until the right time comes but this is interesting.

Hey, I read and understood my role

I got a fake claim

Or was I not supposed to say that....

/confirm

Too much WIFOM?

VOTE: hannah

Getting mafia is fun

Hannah is having fun

Is hannah one of the players you have a meta on?

No, She is one of people I don't have a meta on. But as I said I will explain that read when the time comes, Explaining it would do less good for us
so early on.

I need to find Jose Mourinho. I was told they're town.

About that. We're not doing flavor claims just yet.

Actually Scum are given fake-claims so it wont work I guess.

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Sure, but I suggest mourinho stays anonymous until we get a better grip on you and your alignment.

Depending on mourinho is a bad idea when mafia has fake claims.

VOTE: aronis
Not liking the entrance. Grasping on to something said in pre-start while skipping the rest.

I'm against early flavorclaim in these kind of role madness games.
Especially for the Mourinho, if Snork is willing to guarantee you being town or flips town somewhere, it's wise to just shut up about your flavor just yet.

Yes.

Contrary to popular belief, more info helps town more than it helps scum.

No. So we claim today?

Night 2 starts and all PRs are dead.
Also this is a slight bastard - Millers and Cults and many other problems might be here so we must be sure.

I have a question, what does everyone investigate?

What do you mean by this?

@Snork: having an conftown day 3 or something is so much better than having an conftown day 1. If the player confs himself day 1 he'll probably just be nightkilled.

That's exactly what I mean.

Isn't this game bastardised anyway?

Which means we cant just go claiming yet.

I have a question, what does everyone investigate?

What do you mean by this?

@Snork: having an conftown day 3 or something is so much better than having an conftown day 1. If the player confs himself day 1 he'll probably just be nightkilled.

Is any1 a miller, pretty much. Just making sure every1 is innocent.

I didn't fully grab that...

@hopkirk, just checking how he would go about reading hannah, I know meta isn't magic.

Well Its not like I totally meta her but there is some deep read somewhere there. I will explain it when the time comes. K ty

I'll be back a little later. I'm liking where this RVS is headed, but don't get too carried away yet. It is imperative that I claim today.

Then why don't you claim?

I love this post. I am not sure its pro town or not. But it is hunting for role hunters... and he caught a fish. (btw post number here is wrong cus quoting errors and I am lazy to go correct it atm)

Tier and Aronis are pretty town imo.

Not liking sthar at all.

I didn't actually know this was a bastard game lol... I suppose that changes things.

Can you actually tell us why you think they are town?

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Damn it I did the last quoting wrong again.
I will never get used to quoting system :<,

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I am not sure. But you can check my wiki for some of my games(too lazy to edit atm)

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So if a role madness has many Townie prs the scum will be balanced to counter this.

So 2 people claim and scum chooses which role to get rid off
Again bad idea atm

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In other words in role madness sometimes some roles are as good as vanilla since scum got improved stuff ?

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P.s why did you avoid reading me? You read everyone but me so far

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if Snork is willing to guarantee you being town or flips town somewhere, it's wise to just shut up about your flavor just yet.

Why? Scum have to choose to confirm Mourinho by killing me, or killing Mourinho when he claims, or going for a threatening PR. In what world is having a confirmed townie on D1 bad?

Just saw this and had to reply.


In the world where that townie is the cop and/or mafia had 2 or more kills

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Well role madness is never realistic

Most of my mafia playing was in server in role madness games

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After reading a few of snork's post it gave a town vibe but...

I feel he is hiding something about the game setup which can be only known if he was scum.

Explain

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I love this post. I am not sure its pro town or not. But it is hunting for role hunters... and he caught a fish. (btw post number here is wrong cus quoting errors and I am lazy to go correct it atm)

Sthar wasn't role hunting at all, plus hunting for role hunters is the easiest thing to do as scum. Why do you like that?

Because Early on we get more interactions and more chances to read players that are not posting enough

After reading a few of snork's post it gave a town vibe but...

I feel he is hiding something about the game setup which can be only known if he was scum.

Explain

Please don't do this kthx

You know meta I found for experienced scum? Defend the easy lynch using many methods close to days end and as town fails to do much they go for the easy which cleans scums in eyes of others. Sometimes scum just knows too much. Its best way to catch them
(Check mini 1472 where I was a victim of this play style by Scotty and theFonz who defended me quite a lot and if he didn't do a few mistakes would have won)

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Sthar's entrance was just lame, and I didn't like that he had time to make a post AND a response, but couldn't be arsed to plop a vote or poke at anyone. Seemed kind of cautious, and like he wanted to avoid RVS, and the whole "I NEED TO CLAIM TODAY" just was like... wut?? Especially since we've been talking about people claiming and then he acts like he hasn't read and he's too busy.

This is good posting.

Explain why?

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@zzzx: “This post might be a slip later on that does not mean scum or town. I prefer to keep this unexplained until the right time comes but this is interesting.”: Explain? Why can someone not have fun as a town pr?

That's why I said it's a general slip. Might learn more after I meta this guy

Then your comment in reference to 9 is out of place in relation to your rvs is done comment.

Explain

Zzzx’s server experience generally had several townie’s and lots of prs. Things like double killers did happen there so that comment probably shouldn’t be taken as scummy. Though a double killer is not likely on the forums.

True but as far as mafiascum wiki article on role madness it seems that way. Also what is the setup you expect?

@63 part 1: How does that answer the q?

Even thou I am used to forum mafia I still like fast paced chat and that comment drove that. Also I never said its a town tell afaik. I just liked it for my own selfish reasons. Also makes scum hunting easier

fixed

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I broke the bold tag

Please pay attention to last question

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1- In mass claiming if he claims VT I can call bs and get the final scum... if he claimed pr then we would check the validity of his claim
2- it was an rvs. She has an equal chamce of being a pr or scum so I wanted to try to apply some pressure but she didnt reply here yet.
3-We cant know until we know what kind of roles town has... in this setup I woukdnt be surprised for a third party
4-Why not? I like posts that push activity xus they make game fun and eaiser to read.

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After reading a few of snork's post it gave a town vibe but...

I feel he is hiding something about the game setup which can be only known if he was scum.

Explain

Please don't do this kthx

You know meta I found for experienced scum? Defend the easy lynch using many methods close to days end and as town fails to do much they go for the easy which cleans scums in eyes of others. Sometimes scum just knows too much. Its best way to catch them
(Check mini 1472 where I was a victim of this play style by Scotty and theFonz who defended me quite a lot and if he didn't do a few mistakes would have won)

I have no idea why you need to bring a kind of weird meta tell into here, but it surely doesn't justify the blatant rolefishing.

when did I rolefish?

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This is good posting.

Explain why?

Because it shows genuine thought process that I can connect with. I don't exactly agree (I think it's more or less null), but it rings with my own thoughts.

1- In mass claiming if he claims VT I can call bs and get the final scum... if he claimed pr then we would check the validity of his claim

You do know that no one is gonna claim VT in a role madness game?

Let's say she is scum. And everyone else claimed. VT is the only thing she can claim without breaking the balance so hard that its clear she is lying

I also don't really see the 'something'-slip by hannah you are talking about. I thought it was just a random vote you threw out at the beginning of the game, but are you serious about it now?

I never was. I said she is either a PR or a scum. It was and still n RVs

I think you are a little too caught up in roles and rolehunting instead of scumhunting. Why is that?

That's how role madness works early game. If you get the setup your win chance is at least doubled by knowing which claims are possible. Also there is not enough talk to scum hunt

~G

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Note to self: never do manual bolding on phone

@Mod sorry can you fix my last post? I will never do manual bolds again

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Perhaps not answering the quote itself would help you with that bolding. It's also less confusing for others to read.

Yes sorry its my bad

Mobile mafia is hard. I will post more intelligent replys near the big screen

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Yeah eek is scum. I'm town and that push on my thoughts about sthar is so shitty.

So you think eek is scum because he said your thoughts were not town oriented?

I don't get it.

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And how can my thoughts not be town oriented if I'm freakin town? Like that doesn't even make sense.

The best way to play mafia is to assume everyone can be scum...

Since that is 100% true. Right now I have no proof you are town (even thou I do have a town read on you atm).

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A warning to kop: You can't say anything about snork without saying "hi" to him.

I... dont think that was what he meant.

I think he meant you didnt ask him for reasons or explanations etc like we all are doing.

Which really is interesting. Also don't try to force your opinion on others without a valid reason,

Unvote
Vote Eek

You smell like trying to throw the wagon on him in any way possible. Why?

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Why do you feel the need to defend him? And what wagon? If you'd take even one second to look at the game you'd see that I'm not even voting him. You'd know when I'd be trying to set up a wagon.

I didn't ask him for explanations or reasons because I asked him to clarify what his stances were on me and sthar because his posts didn't have any indication of them (go back and read them). On the contrary, they were empty statements that were just mudslinging in the case of sthar.

Reread them and I was wrong there. Idk really

Unvote

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" I never was. I said she is either a PR or a scum. It was and still n RVs": Everyone is...

"Right now I have no proof you are town (even thou I do have a town read on you atm).": Talk about trying to leave yourself wriggle room.

Yo have a major focus on roles over content which is ridiculous, especially when we don't want to know roles.

Vote zzzx

I dont find any worthy content to hunt. I am hunting content I can.

Also why dont we want to know the roles?

They can allow us to understand night actions and find out which claims are possible before we mass claim

am I wrong in that?

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I said not to claim... But to try to guess the number of scum on the enemy team and what roles we can expect to be in the town?

I feel like always misunderstood

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Let's not discuss set up this early.

Why not?

What reason do you want hopkirk to hop on tier's wagon?

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I don't understand what "wut" would mean. Is that a "wut"-scummy or "wut"-townish or a "wut"-idk? Hence me asking you to call a cat a cat.

Surely you have more to say about his "IN2C" than a simple "wut". Do you think it's made from a town pov or a scum one?

I.. What...

Can you please rephrase this since I got nothing out of it...

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Wait. One question.

Snork, what's your experience with mafia? I see one completed micro and an ongoing large (and this game). Do you have additional experience?

One would think that experience works in reverse. The more experienced a player the harder it was to "scum read" him and the townier he would appear (generally) so this question matters some times.

Hell I played 3 mafia games here and in 2 I got lynched because I don't have enough experience so I wasn't townie enough (Which scum abused)

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I would like to see if now he changes from role hunting to scum hunting.

Zzzx does have experience (at least 3 games i think) on another site we play on that he neglected to mention.

I have 1 in PO online and 1 in PO anon (Jungle Rep) (I mention those every game until I got enough experience here to sub for it)
I have 3 games here all in mini and opens.

Well I don't know why you say I am role hunting because I am not. It is that I wanted to know this setup. Now the game started to move we can move into scum hunting. I have a small idea about the setup I think (and a plan)

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Hmm. You seem to have the same sort of reads I do but still you are very disconcerting to me.

Hopkirk, so you are not voting zzzx anymore because you think he's scum, but just to see if his play will change?

P-edit: OH MY GOD ARE WE DOING THAT AGAIN

YOU FOUL MANIPULATOR

Actually what I am doing right now is my usuall playstyle which gets misunderstood as scum. (Which annoys me).

Feel free to meta me and click the small wiki below my name

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@Tier: Yeah, it is a bit overdone. But it's convenient to be able to clear someone this early.

About hopkirk: he feels town, but his play seems a bit mechanical. I'd need to reread the zzzx and hopkirk interaction, give me a few.

this interraction is because he is the only one here which I played a few mafia games with (including server).

I may be newbie as it seems but one thing I can do right is some plays that can make you go WTF

I will post reads on all after I finish reading 2 pages that appeared after I went to take a break

P-Edit: Snork. Lets say its too early, Because saying it now will make it not work

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Dont worry my plans are usually insane.

If you want a completed game to see how insane they can be I will give you a link in ~5 minites

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http://poanon.forumotion.com/t13-jungle ... -game-over
(Last time I asked I think I was allowed to post games from other forums for meta right?)

anyway reads coming up soon!

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Mike. Sorry I forgot

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forgot to tell you*

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@Tier: Yeah, it is a bit overdone. But it's convenient to be able to clear someone this early.

About hopkirk: he feels town, but his play seems a bit mechanical. I'd need to reread the zzzx and hopkirk interaction, give me a few.

Almost every mafiascum game I'm in I'm called mechanical or robotic at some point.

Hmm. You seem to have the same sort of reads I do but still you are very disconcerting to me.

Hopkirk, so you are not voting zzzx anymore because you think he's scum, but just to see if his play will change?

P-edit: OH MY GOD ARE WE DOING THAT AGAIN

YOU FOUL MANIPULATOR

No, i think that stuff looks scummy and want to see more to see if it was from scum or confused town.

Can you explain which part of my play seems scummy?

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Also weren't you in the last anon? (and how long did you stay in bw?)

I wasn't cus I was a senior at school (still am but holiday)

And I think I stayed one night in BW before getting night killed (I am not sure honestly but I cant find more than a single PM sent-recieved for it and that was the night I replaced in)

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What are you guys talking about?? I'd really rather keep off-site stuff out of this game, if you don't mind. Offer a link and then move on. Right now I cannot follow what you all are talking about because there's no reference and it is not helping me read you.

He was asking me about a few games that were played and he thought I played, But I didnt.

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As far as I know I feel Eek and tier are doing a TownvTown atm

Not sure yet thou

Cant read them on phone

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ZZ, is that based on the interaction or based on your read of each of them individually?

Quite abit of both. Idk its not "hard" enough to be bussing really.

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Sadly I am also human and its my turn to catch some Zs

Cya guys 2moro

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What do I freakin need to explain? I'm town reading him.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????

BECAUSE HE IS TOWN!

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

May I ask you one question
I have 3 games here already done... You didn't even bother to try to meta me and are trying to push the vote on me at any cost? I am really confused.

Also I am trying what I can atm. But cant really do much yet.

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Sorry guys I've just caught up!! I forget how everything is jumped on here, I'm still a newbie so give me a bit of extra time!! I was only saying this was gonna be good because of the football/soccer reference if I'm honest, which makes the reason for putting it a bit lame...

Just so I can be clear who is still in RVS and whose vote is genuinely what they think??

Definitely massive defences going up in this game though...

Well feel free to give your reads as soon as you are ready

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Did kop even post?

oh yea since we are at it here are my reads so far:


Hannah: I really smell newbie scum at her only post... Idk still totally Null otherwise

Kop: Did he even post?

TierShift: Well his interactions with Eek really felt like TvT(townvtown) and I think he did claim dayvig.. (even thou its too early honestly but eh)

Aronis: Prob town because he is basically trying to put pieces togather, I also find his reads realistic (And no thats not because he thinks I am town) and is trying to help the town, However he could be a very experienced scum also. I am not sure.

Eek: Look at Tier for interaction but I felt his push was a little bit more.. forced, I guess he is neutral for now. Also don't forget his early game defending of hannah from a semi RVS comment

Hopkirk: I don't feel this is a townkirk so far.. Why? I don't know, His play style is kinda... not his towny way.

sthar: Slightly town for his only post but he seems to be lurking atm.

The Scum team as far as I expect?
Hannah and Hopkirk/Eek

Did I miss anyone?

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it seemed like TvT,

But still I have some indivisual note about you, Cant forget those.

Up until now I put you as netural. Scum if Hannah flipped scum.

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Sorry guys I've just caught up!! I forget how everything is jumped on here, I'm still a newbie so give me a bit of extra time!! I was only saying this was gonna be good because of the football/soccer reference if I'm honest, which makes the reason for putting it a bit lame...

Just so I can be clear who is still in RVS and whose vote is genuinely what they think??

Definitely massive defences going up in this game though...

This post has many problems:

1- It feels more of a prod dodge while trying to post info

Aka trying to active lurk


2- She says she read the whole game and answers a point which really got answered. (or isn't needed to be answered)

3- I find that kinda funny when she kinda mini paniced about it then calmed down. Also it appears she is new and might have made that mistake, But actually I find it more scummy since that case was nearly done for and by reading the whole game she would know there are many more important questions

4- LaL

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okay Z wuz wrong with you

I am hungry

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@ Zzzx: "Nt townkirk": Compared to what? I know you haven't played with townkirk so what are you comparing it to?

I have been reading a few games in my free time and I can feel your play as town is quite consitent

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Ok, z is town.

If he could just show me where I "defended" Hannah.

More of life "tried" to push away my semi RVS comment to cover for her (its all a theory atm thou)

anyway I agree that we should really shoot hannah if she doesnt post soon

@Snork Sorry I forgot, I will read you in the next ~10 minites so gimme a moment

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I can't even...

VOTE: Aronis

Before I read you can you explain this vote?

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@MOD I sent a pm instead of a reply by mistake

I sent you the post, What to do?

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First of all if you read her title "townsperson" its clear that is her 1st or 2nd game.

Anyway I dont know about that but in the last mafia game I played One of the WWs voted the other for the hammer to try to clean himself.

If you felt she is a liability and you both agreed to it you can do it to give you a higher chance of getting non detected

Then again its still too early to be sure. Might be that you were trying to get reads from the RVS'es

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It's bastard, youknow.

Roles are seemingly getting showed, Its too early people,

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Oh yeah

Luckily I'm a role trader and I'm trading with sthar

sthar, SHOOT HIM NOW!

It seems you got something ?

Can you care to tell us what?

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*pokes Tier with a bone*

*tier fell down*

shot down?


Anyway Tier that lie was not really needed but nice stuff

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Now guys lets actually get some work done, If you were to lynch someone today, Who would that be?
I would lynch Hannah

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Also did kop post anything? Cus I cant find any

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did the thread just die?

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Idk I personally prefer hannah

and we could lynch kop if he hasnt posted by then...

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Btw is it allowed to post links to youtube videos here? I think one currently is really really good for this game

also thats a good reason to snipe hannah first since kop will be prodded soon

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I vote hannah! I also don't really care.

Why dont you?

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Also the fact that all thier postings are prod dodges indirectly


Inb4 both are scum team and we win D1 lol

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I think I kinda want Zzzx to be shot since (no offense, kinda) I don't want that in LyLo.

Shooting lurkers when we're just 48 hours in is kinda meh. I'd really appreciate it if you'd hold your shot for a bit and let both lurkers either give thought on this game or get replaced.

So shoot a town read since you dont want him in LyLo? so instead of trying to get scum even with a low chance u go for a 0% chance of scum and do a policy "dayvig"?

I find that amusing, Its not like I will insta hammer or anything... meh

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What if we all vote on who gets shot [like a lynch]?

Good idea

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Personally I find aronis more towny and feel hopkirk feels abit out of his town-style while I am hating the lurkers who are being useless atm

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Why does aronis look town to you two?

Well his reads are realistic and as far as I see his play is trying to push the town into the right way.

Might be that he is an experienced scum but as far as I know he is playing as town for the moment

P-edit: I think he means he is rather mechanical in his play, I also feel his current play is without a personallity as if he is hiding something...

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Well I can surely see what he thinks of zzzx
But I see your point.

Well his reads are realistic

What reads? How is realistic a town tell?

Because at his reads he will sooner or later have to choose between those guys he marked as town, Since we are getting rid of his "scummy" players this phase.
So If he was scum and changed his reads in a very great deal it will be noticable, So I dont think his reads were a valid card to play, But only time will tell.

Also He gave away general tells a few pages ago if I was correct, I cant iso him atm cus I am replying by phone

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Why does aronis look town to you two?

Inclined to read him as newbtown.

He's not like really really new here I think.

@Snork: what defense of hopkirk?

Yea I think I have saw at least 10 games with him in them... I am not sure thou

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I'd like the idea of voting for who is to be shot. But the only downside, the scum can see who will get the most votes and join in to give them the extra push that they need, then influence the day lynch and they are gaining 3 kills.

It'll be a nice turn of luck if we were to choose a scum to be shot, might see a indication of the possible scum trying to change the complexion of the voting for who is to be shot.

Eek, I can see what he tried to do with the asking of people to vote for Tier, so that he can get a read. It's all well and good voting as you can get reactions from people giving you reads to possible town or scum. But on the other hand, he could be role hunting for scum. He's leaning more town though for me, because other than that, most of his posts isn't giving me any scum reads.

Zz coming off townie for me. I was unsure at the start but with the more posts he has made, he is coming off as town.

Hannah, I have zero reads to what she could be, I have played a few times with Hannah, but obviously that doesn't mean anything at the moment.

Sthar, claims to be the viglante, and hasn't be counter claimed, so at the moment, town.

I'd be looking towards Hopkirk and Hannah at the moment.

Since you played w/hannah does that mean that she is using an alt?

cus she has 40 posts in this acc

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Sorry hopkirk I guess it's the whole mechanical/talking about the set up rather than hunting thing I'm suspicious of. It's been those sort of posts which are there but have no real impact...

Zzzx is someone who has gone under my radar I've just noticed. Add him to my suspicious lost. It'll sound like I'm copying him but Kop of course will also hit that button purely because of the lack of posts. But if that's my reason who am I to talk eh??

What do you mean by suspicious lost?

Also does it seem you are blaming Kop for activity while you have low activity your self? Not talking about him in the first post then slightly attacking him with a useless execuse really smells like scum buddying

FoS: Hannah

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Also 2 days remains.

I think it will soon be time to decide on a target to lynch/dayvig

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@MOD V/LA for 24 hours

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First of all I am back. I guess things went smoother than expected.

Anyway first off I have to ask a serious question to hopkirk

You say I am playing noob town card yet I would have believed if anyone other than you said it But seriously


Have I ever played in another play style?

Will post more after I finish readin'

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Tl;Dr case on hopkirk

/Dodged my question I threw to him. 3 times. . .
/calls me for playing newb town while I explained it twice
/Is not townkirk meta style
/full of nulls reads and lower than usual activity and personality (according to his meta)

Vote hopkirk

P-edit I don't mind that

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Well... I guess we should be more careful in this lynch.

Do you guys have an idea of who to lynch?

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Honestly I'm confused with last turn of events...

But

vote aronis

until he answers last posts question

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Ha ha. Why am I not surprised?

Stop dodging start answeribg

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You cant use lie detectors like that i think

lie detectors checks if what someone said is true for that person point of view

so thats a wrong way to use it I guess

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Oh well

Vote Hannah

You can check this

I am town.

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UNVOTE:

Eh...
Well it's not really confirmable but we sure can use your lie detector if you flip town somehow.

I think I'd prefer a ZZZX lynch here I think. I need a reread.

VOTE: zzzx

Anyway, it's plurality lynch so you don't really need my vote to lynch hannah.
Is she just deadline compromise?

Is it fine if I say thats weird?

It was 4~ pages ago when you said I was your strongest town read wasn't it?

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I sheeped since its clear there is no better answer. Hannah was a scum read for me 90% of the game wasn't her?

Anyway I cant do much in anyday that isnt a weekend anyway

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You know I was talking about zzzx right

last hour of the day is the time to decide someone to vote

and didnt I suspect hannah all the game?

Answer me?

FOS on you for that weird comment and dodging questions..

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I updated those reads afaik

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I will write something here after I do some quick research.

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I'm a 1-shot hider. No kills mean either scum were blocked or I was the target.

Sthar kills people who suspect him. Go check all of his previous scum games. Anyone who suspected him ended up dead the next day. I suspected him at the end of the day. I hid. No one died.

VOTE: Sthar

Also, I hid behind Eek, who is now confirmed town because I would have otherwise died. yay eek

I call either bs or I was role blocked.. prob the first

I was a one shot tracker and I got no result.

I didn't want to claim yet but since I am a named townie now and I can prevent us from following a wrong lead I will have to

VOTE: Snork Explain. I think mafia would try to role block someone else

[ZZZX]

Are you dumb? If you tracked me you wouldnt get a result because you cant target me. Go read the wiki. Hider

Seems I did bad research

still this is intersting

Most notably, if the Hider tries to hide behind a player who is not Town-aligned, the Hider will passively die and nothing can prevent it. In that way, Hider is similar to a Cop.

So, we can actually get one more confirmed townie ?

Unvote

[ZZZX]

Oh i see what you're asking.

Yes. Eek is confirmed town.

Yea, I thought hider targets self (lol )

Vote: Sthar

I guess...

[ZZZX]

Wp snork

[ZZZX]

Sthar not a single good town will basically shoot someone as soon as they call them out

[ZZZX]

Doesnt this match my early game reads when I read eek as town and tier as scum?


I suspect hannah was a gov or something like that

this game is bastard for sure atm

Unvote and vote Tiershift

Explain why you were dodging every question and tunneling artanis?

A lie detector is possible in this bastard game


p-edit: I really thought you were scum there o.O

[ZZZX]

hannah wagon was joined by town as far as I know, Is she actually scum? Idk but I find tier voting aronis as if he doesnt want to be in the end of the wagon so he doesnt get caught

This game suddenly became 10 times more active

[ZZZX]

UNVOTE:

Eh...
Well it's not really confirmable but we sure can use your lie detector if you flip town somehow.

I think I'd prefer a ZZZX lynch here I think. I need a reread.

VOTE: zzzx

Anyway, it's plurality lynch so you don't really need my vote to lynch hannah.
Is she just deadline compromise?

Do your fucking research.

Anyway, I'm pulling myself together for a little reread here.

That post was scummiest thing you posted because you considered me your biggest town read then suddenly you are ready to move the lynch to me while people who used to FOS me are not voting me.

Then the start of this day. I dont know what to tell you

[ZZZX]

Eek and Artanos You gota come see the 3 pages you just missed lol

[ZZZX]

I'm not voting until I hear from the mod.

Also snork I HAD to kill yesterday. That was true. And Hop had the most 'votes'. Plus he was a good shot; hannah was too easy and kop's not even in the game.

There's no way your meta on me is pure cold. Your diction tickles something, but not all the time. Are you a hydra?

Do you expect hannah to be town or scum duo to whats happening?

Also what are your reads so far?

[ZZZX]

I'm not voting until I hear from the mod.

Also snork I HAD to kill yesterday. That was true. And Hop had the most 'votes'. Plus he was a good shot; hannah was too easy and kop's not even in the game.

There's no way your meta on me is pure cold. Your diction tickles something, but not all the time. Are you a hydra?

Do you expect hannah to be town or scum duo to whats happening?

Also what are your reads so far?

[ZZZX]

At least one scum is in {Tiershift, zzzx, kop}

I tried to lie detect this post. He wouldn't give me a result.

Told you.............


>.>

[ZZZX]

You cant use lie detectors like that i think

lie detectors checks if what someone said is true for that person point of view

so thats a wrong way to use it I guess

[ZZZX]

Note: This contains usage of the F word if that matters for you

A song that totally descripes this game: http://youtu.be/0DTLcR5awn0 (How can I make it a video instead ? idk)

[ZZZX]

Note: This contains usage of the F word if that matters for you

A song that totally descripes this game: http://youtu.be/0DTLcR5awn0 (How can I make it a video instead ? idk)

Video instead of link*

[ZZZX]

Thats what I read...


Also for anyone asking I had a no result

[ZZZX]

I find it weird aronis ignored my post but there is something I town read him for.

He could have said he read eek's post of "I am town" which will be easy to fake since we know eek is conf town so far but he didnt

so I tr for that.

Opinions?

[ZZZX]

Translate for me?

Instead of faking an easy to fake answer he just used something that is basically stubid and might appear scummy. so he shouldnt be scum unless hes gambling

[ZZZX]

What's this all about eek?
What do you think about aronis claiming to have his shot not working?

Anyway, I'm a voyeur. I was on Aronis last night and I got no result. That means that either Aronis is lying, his shot didn't work because he used it in a wrong manner or he is investigation immune. And I think the first option is the most likely.

Or you just Didn't do your homework to know what your role does.

This calls scummy. I didn't know what hider does but I was aware of my role AFAIK.

[ZZZX]

Yeah, I'm sure that aronis didn't use his ability because he tried to use it on my post.

Only the mod can decide.

[ZZZX]

Voyeur cant inspect a person or his actions

End of story.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

he Voyeur is an informative role that can target a player at night and learn what was done to them that night (protection, investigation, etc), but not who did it.

[ZZZX]

So how does that add to your argument?

You lied about your role.


Lynch All Liers

[ZZZX]

Target someone and then see what actions are performed.

How is kop conftown?

What does a voyeur do?

What's this all about eek?
What do you think about aronis claiming to have his shot not working?

Anyway, I'm a voyeur. I was on Aronis last night and I got no result. That means that either Aronis is lying, his shot didn't work because he used it in a wrong manner or he is investigation immune. And I think the first option is the most likely.

[ZZZX]

Wait I was being unclear

Target someone and then see what actions are performed

on said person

.

FTFM

So when a lie detector uses his shot how should an "action" be performed on him?

Anyway I am sure both eek and me understood it the way it was before which is really annoying

[ZZZX]

Aronis claims he was blocked, it seems. But he wasn't.

I have no idea how a lie detector works actually.

He said mod wouldnt answer him

Basically I would assume a lie detector detects if what the person said is true from that person;s point of view

[ZZZX]

I just saw hannah online in the main page

Not sure if lurking..

[ZZZX]

I fail to see how zzzx is confirmed tracker. Snork also isn't confirmed town but he really isn't scum.

So if I and Aronis are teh scumz, why aren't we lynching aronis?

You also have to remember that scum might have a role which fakeclaim is just the mafia role with only the alignment reversed. Unlynchable is not necessarily a town modifier and scum day vigs are....possible, I guess.

Cant expect an unlynchable without any town killing roles anyway?

[ZZZX]

So if the dayvig screws up his shot the whole town is screwed?

Also why do I think hannah might be a oneshot?

[ZZZX]

So if the dayvig screws up his shot the whole town is screwed?

Also why do I think hannah might be a oneshot?

[ZZZX]

So.. Now what?

[ZZZX]

Eek and snork are confirmed town atm (Hider and town interaction) Unless it was a big ass gambit (which I dont expect esp after my tracker shot). Idk about kop but eek got something

[ZZZX]

Interesting game, GG guys

[ZZZX]

Mafia wanted me killed so badly