Mini 1563 - Vampire: The Masquerade Mafia (Fourth Evening)

[vonflare]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,

Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?

[Aronis]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,

Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?

Probably thinks I could use it better.

Truth.

No

[Kagami]

Because I find people's ideas about it worth evaluating.

Also, I'm unwilling to lynch without a full town anyway.

[Aronis]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie, nor do I think there being uncertainty in the recipient is a good idea. If such a pool consisted of 3 or more people, then it's basically whichever among them scum chooses. A pool of two, even, means that it's scum pick among the two, most likely.

Two people works. There are twelve people left. Probably 3 scum, 9 town. Scum all votes for one person. The town can still overcome that and if you pick two town. You have a win win with whoever gets it.

Let's say d3x and sprex are chosen. If all of the town votes for one of them, even if the scum vote elsewhere, we are guaranteed a majority.

[Aronis]

Because I find people's ideas about it worth evaluating.

Also, I'm unwilling to lynch without a full town anyway.

Good luck with that. . .

[Kagami]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie,

Are you calling me scum, or are you just saying that I shouldn't get diablarie because it would be better used elsewhere?

I am not townreading you.

To do a pool would require the pool to be only two people, both of whom are likely town. I'd still rather just pick one person, moderate townread; or even scumread with a claimed powerful ability.

[Kagami]

I don't want to give vonflare diablerie, nor do I think there being uncertainty in the recipient is a good idea. If such a pool consisted of 3 or more people, then it's basically whichever among them scum chooses. A pool of two, even, means that it's scum pick among the two, most likely.

Two people works. There are twelve people left. Probably 3 scum, 9 town. Scum all votes for one person. The town can still overcome that and if you pick two town. You have a win win with whoever gets it.

Let's say d3x and sprex are chosen. If all of the town votes for one of them, even if the scum vote elsewhere, we are guaranteed a majority.

Town won't all vote for one of them. The noms will be split. 4-5 means scum gets to choose, 3-6 means scum get their choice half the time even if it conflicts with town. 2-7 or better is pretty unlikely.

[Aronis]

Whatev.

I'll just vote for myself. Can we do that?

[d3x]

Because I find people's ideas about it worth evaluating.

Also, I'm unwilling to lynch without a full town anyway.

I agree that the ideas are worth evaluating, but I don't see them accomplishing anything but cluttering the thread at this point. By Saturday, Kthx will be back and we should have some form of participation from the replacements. If nothing else, furthering the discussion at this point lets players like Aronis make it seem like they're contributing with meaningful content instead of just debating theoretical plans. I'm also not saying that we should Lynch right now.

Speaking of Aronis...

Stop posting with spoiler tags. Not only is it against the rules of this particular game, it's annoying as shit to try and read when I'm on my phone.

[Kagami]

...
What if we make a pool? For example, spyreX, katuski, and vonflare? Then people give it to whoever they want out of that group. That ways scum don't know who has it, but the town has some organization.

Imagine aronis is scum. What do you think of this suggestion?

[d3x]

It's an evolution on SG's idea to hit the diablerie to a midling player that {as you have pointed out}

still

lets Scum direct the diablerie. It also allows him to come up with ideas that 'further the Town' without doing any actual ScumHunting or benefitting the Town.

[Kagami]

He picked specific people though, you think they're just randomish?

[Kagami]

vonflare, specifically, jumps out as an odd choice for a "middling" player

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fine then, you want a super safe bet for Diaablerie?

Hand it to me.

[vonflare]

Why? are you NK-immune?

[d3x]

I think that without any further information, they're pretty safe names. If/When Aronis flips Scum, there is a decent chance that there's 1 Scum in the pool. If/When he flips Town, it's just a pool of names.

vonflare makes sense because no one is biting on his attempts to get a vonWagon going.

[Kagami]

I'm ok with an LLD diablerie.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Kagami, if I said I thought Aronis was town and wanted to lynch Vonflare, what would you say?

[Kagami]

I would agree wholeheartedly.

[Kagami]

At the very least, I would prefer to know vonflare's alignment before worrying about aronis's

[GreyICE]

ArcAngel9 replaces Empking. Thank you, Arc!

[Aronis]

Here's to hoping Arc does more then our last replacement has!

[Kagami]

I am very happy with this replace-in, if what I've heard is true~

[ArcAngel9]

Hello folks..
I am still going through my PM. Holy hell... i love the theme..
Hang on

[Katsuki]

Shit um I completely forgot this game existed. I need to catch sometime when I'm not at work.