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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:59 am

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In post 71, sangres wrote:Why did you vote me before you knew I was me?
Pressure. Thought you were some new-ish player and with Vi's vote on you, I thought building a wagon on you would tell me a lot about your alignment.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:02 am

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In post 73, Sixty wrote:
In post 68, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also, I'm 99% that the current poster in the Sixty hydra is Six, not Ty.
Shhh. You're ruining our fun. (also, they're parentheses)
You shouldn't believe I'm town, unless you think my current posting is unfakeable? You should see that my opening is at least trying to accomplish more than simply being obnoxious, though.
[ ] providing evidence of you being Town
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:04 am

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Hmm well sangres and LLD are unlikely to be partners unless they decided to do the yeah I'll pretend not to know who you are wink wink nudge nudge which seems unlikely. Maybe. I'll get back to you on that but first thought is not.

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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:05 am

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Day 1, VC 3
sangres - (2):
Cerulean, Sixty
Nobody Special - (1):
Venmar
Tim Howard - (1):
ChannelDelibird
No Lynch - (1):
sangres
Lady Lambdadelta - (1):
Zdenek
ChannelDelibird - (1):
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Not voting - (11):
Shadoweh, chamber, Plum, Nobody Special, kanyeknowsbest, Untrod Tripod, Katsuki, Flipping Awesome,
Nero Cain
, xRECKONERx, Lady Lambdadelta

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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:08 am

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You could call me town because I'm the most useful player in thread so far.
You could call me town because the obnoxious posting style re: Tammy posts apply to Tammy and Tammy alone and as a whole, the player list would be far more receptive to a more aggressive and obviously scumhunting scum-Nacho (in such a scenario, I would have cleared the players who weren't being mislynched as town already and started pressuring the chaff).
You could call me town because I'm telling you you're letting stupid things get in your way and am telling you you're playing badly as a result (Nacho-scum getting on your bad side early game for no apparent reason? No thank you!).
If you were playing particularly well, you could also call me town for the reasons I'm calling myself town. But that particularly bit is a bit hard to see :(
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:12 am

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In post 75, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 71, sangres wrote:Why did you vote me before you knew I was me?
Pressure. Thought you were some new-ish player and with Vi's vote on you, I thought building a wagon on you would tell me a lot about your alignment.
Shouldn't the best town performance Scummy + you judging the scummies mean you know I'm probably not a new player?
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:19 am

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In post 80, sangres wrote:
In post 75, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 71, sangres wrote:Why did you vote me before you knew I was me?
Pressure. Thought you were some new-ish player and with Vi's vote on you, I thought building a wagon on you would tell me a lot about your alignment.
Shouldn't the best town performance Scummy + you judging the scummies mean you know I'm probably not a new player?
Best performance town is given to anyone who is in the game. I don't really see how this applies.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:22 am

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In post 81, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 80, sangres wrote:
In post 75, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 71, sangres wrote:Why did you vote me before you knew I was me?
Pressure. Thought you were some new-ish player and with Vi's vote on you, I thought building a wagon on you would tell me a lot about your alignment.
Shouldn't the best town performance Scummy + you judging the scummies mean you know I'm probably not a new player?
Best performance town is given to anyone who is in the game. I don't really see how this applies.
You did read the game, right?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:25 am

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It's funny just how hurt Sangres is.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:26 am

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In post 74, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 69, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 67, Nero Cain wrote:Hello everyone. I'm your friendly IC. This is my first time ICing and I'll try my hardest to teach ya'll the best I know how. Feel free to ask any questions. Sometime later today/tonight I plan on getting up a lengthy post about the game of mafia but for now I'm interested in ya'lls previous experiences with mafia. Do you play on another site? etc.
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EHEHEHAHEHEAHEAHEHA

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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:29 am

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sup bitches

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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:29 am

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In post 82, sangres wrote:
In post 81, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 80, sangres wrote:
In post 75, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 71, sangres wrote:Why did you vote me before you knew I was me?
Pressure. Thought you were some new-ish player and with Vi's vote on you, I thought building a wagon on you would tell me a lot about your alignment.
Shouldn't the best town performance Scummy + you judging the scummies mean you know I'm probably not a new player?
Best performance town is given to anyone who is in the game. I don't really see how this applies.
You did read the game, right?
As I recall, best performance town was for the reverse mafia game where you guys had to lynch correctly like 4 times in a row to win, and you did.

I confirmed this by looking at the first post, but didn't do an indepth read into the individual players because it wasn't an individual award?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:30 am

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In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!

Granted, the cases they plead are anonymous, and I don't choose a name, but rather whichever post I liked better, but that's beyond the point~.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:34 am

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In post 87, Zdenek wrote:
In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!

Granted, the cases they plead are anonymous, and I don't choose a name, but rather whichever post I liked better, but that's beyond the point~.
What stops the players from putting their names in their pleas?
How many times does this happen?
Nothing as far as I can tell, though there is a certain... ah... special limitation to it that I won't get into.

No limit. Happens every day.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:36 am

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Vote: Katsuki
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:37 am

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I'll be worth remembering that there's no "No Lynching" in MYLO if LLD is alive.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:40 am

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Well it's an active ability. I don't HAVE to do it.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:40 am

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coming this summer: LLD in...

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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:40 am

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In post 84, Katsuki wrote:
In post 74, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 69, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 67, Nero Cain wrote:Hello everyone. I'm your friendly IC. This is my first time ICing and I'll try my hardest to teach ya'll the best I know how. Feel free to ask any questions. Sometime later today/tonight I plan on getting up a lengthy post about the game of mafia but for now I'm interested in ya'lls previous experiences with mafia. Do you play on another site? etc.
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EHEHEHAHEHEAHEAHEHA

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:43 am

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In post 91, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Well it's an active ability. I don't HAVE to do it.
Oh, well I thought it was just automatic.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:45 am

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In post 90, Zdenek wrote:I'll be worth remembering that there's no "No Lynching" in MYLO if LLD is alive.
We should just use in long before then but I don't think today is a good day which is why Ferycho's "no lynch" vote is kinda head desk. And then Nacho claims its reaction...
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:50 am

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As I understand it, I think everyone is allowed to post while this occurs, but I'll double check with mr. mod.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:13 am

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F-16, where did you go? :(
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:17 am

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In post 95, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 90, Zdenek wrote:I'll be worth remembering that there's no "No Lynching" in MYLO if LLD is alive.
We should just use in long before then but I don't think today is a good day which is why Ferycho's "no lynch" vote is kinda head desk. And then Nacho claims its reaction...
It doesn't look like it's one shot.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:00 am

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Sixty:

Vi aggressive approach to me is something I sort of liked even though it was a poor opening game-wise. In her last two scumgames that I'm aware of, (Black Flag Nightless + Dr Who), she had the half-joking opening on chamber-CES which turned to more of a "holy shit can I actually get these guys lynched", and Black Flag Nightless, which was more of a conventional opening where she jokes then transitions to a serious vote. Her vote on me seems like an odd agenda for Vi-scum to open up with: I don't think I'm a greater threat to the slot than others (especially since I'm most likely going to trust Tierce-Tammy if they call scum even if I have a townread in place already). She also seems to like to transition to serious votes as quickly as possible or scum, so trying to get me more focused as opposed to making progress on a mislynch seems more like a town move, although he could be trying to set me up for a mislynch or he could be playing around while looking for a more definite action. Ultimately, will probably end up focusing on Tierce head for read but initial thoughts are town.

LLD:

LLD is a surprisingly strong townread for me at this point (which fuels slight paranoia in and of itself, but not significant paranoia). Tonally, I think LLD looks town: she isn't a particularly aggressive sorter early game, but she occasionally gives off those vibes as scum. She also has more playerlist awareness as scum, so her not knowing who was in sangres is a good sign, and I don't think that on a whole was faked. Even more importantly, I think that her outing of her ability is incredibly town after realizing what Zdenek brought up recently. If LLD kept that ability under wraps, she would be able to win as scum for setting up a LyLo where she leads to a No Lynch. She would be able to get a double kill every time she was able to drown the town in apathy, and she would be able to get a double town if she suggested moving from evens to odds. I don't think any limits the mods could place on that particular ability could make it weak enough to justify the early out for LLD-scum, and I think the limits that seem to be placed on it so far (doesn't know who each player is, picks post and not player) make sense for limits on a town role but don't nerf the power enough to be given to scum.

Cerulean:

Tammy seems pretty obviously town. Early game excitement and strong openings are something Tammy still feels uncomfortable pulling off as scum (or even attempting, really, and occasionally dumbs down her town game so that she can't be read in one post), so I'd probably light a puppy on fire if I thought she was scum. I probably won't ever mention this read again because it's sort of useless and only feeds her already uncontrollable ego, so please don't ask me about it and please don't call the slot scum.

Zdenek:

Zdenek opening seems good to me! I think early role out is slightly townish, but the main reason I have a townread on him is because of how he engages LLD's ability (to be fair, I don't know how he would approach it as scum except by not caring that much, but how it evolved seemed pretty genuine to me).

Flipping Awesome:

I don't have a read on F-16 yet. I like that he seems excited for rolling town, but I think it's obvious he would be excited for rolling town in this player list and his excitement isn't particularly fakeable. Him taking strong ownership of reading me and specifically me is nice, but I didn't think that was fakeable (although closer to fakeable). I am currently taking a pretty strong and pretty early approach to saving the game as soon as possible (and am being pretty transparent about it!), so I'm hoping that he engages this wall with a pretty great response so I can slate him in as obvious town as opposed to kinda town but not quite there yet.

Nero Cain:

I have a light townread on Nero Cain because he tends to step on toes as little as possible while scum while doesn't give a shit about it as town, and his reaction to my No Lynch Vote seems like classical Nero Cain-town. I am unsure why he didn't vote us if he doesn't believe that I was initially reaction testing, though.

Tim Howard:

Nexus seems to have similar tendencies as Nero as scum and town from my initial skim of his ISO in that last newbie game he was scum in, so light townread there as well.

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