In post 384, Squirrel Girl wrote:
The specific question was for my scum motivation in the ask a question, don't get an answer, avoid pointing out the lack of answer moment. I'm trying to understand what situation you see, where I am scum, and would choose to do that for scum game via lying about it. You haven't answered that.
In post 382, Kthxbye wrote:-As for your added amusement, check again. I asked in p339, he answered in his very next post with a reads list...so.....uh....misrep much?
I'm going to shorten these down to one question just to make my point.
Here's you asking a question and his answer.
You're telling me that's a good answer for what you asked?
In post 382, Kthxbye wrote:OK, SG, how bout this, walk me through how mnemonic's play has been town and specifically, how him referencing d3x's dayvig to get his read on d3x and then trying to pressure the dead to post more is a town tell or even null?
I never said it was a town tell. I think I have advanced that it's null - I think it's null because I don't see the scum benefit in doing what he did and having to lie about it and that is why I'm asking to have the pro-scum advantage explained to me. Since I don't see it. I mean, what's the value? He's trying to intentionally look like he's not reading or something? I don't get it - I have openly admitted to not getting it. I have asked people to explain it to see if I can get it enough to agree or disagree.
Can you explain it now, please and thank you?
-I did in fact answer this
In post 350, Kthxbye wrote:-Scum screw up. That's how they get caught. Could it be you were too busy trying to look town and forgot the questions you ask people as you already know alignments
There is no scum-motivation to be had. It's messing up and not following up on things you're pretending to care about that is the scum-tell. Seeing scum-motivation in posts isn't the only thing that finds scum.
-As for you shortening things down on his read on me, no, it wasn't a good answer...but guess what, you asked the question about it before I even posted again. I'm sorry, was I supposed to ask the same question you had just asked?
No, the fact is, I see you avoiding wagons on scummy people while focusing your efforts in the wrong place. This is why I don't trust you to be town. You are borderline tunneling me while being non-committal about it. FFS, if you think I'm scum, vote me already. At least you'll be taking a stance that can be read later.
-See point one about why I think you could be scum for not following up on all these questions you are throwing out and then missing one of them not being answered.
(This to you as well d3x) Scum are motivated to look town. Scum then try and post things that would make them look town. Scum then screw up and forget things they posted (questions) to look town OR post something that is in direct contradiction to something else they wrote in order to look town. See why MD is scum this way:
To look town, scum-MD decides to come in with a reads list
scum-MD reads up on d3x and sees that he's a town Vig
scum-MD realizes that most everyone sees d3x as town
scum-MD posts that he is also under the opinion that d3x is town but still throws doubt in there
scum-MD moves on and reads up on others coming up with ways to read his buddies as null and be suspicious of town or whatever
scum-MD see's that Monkey is super inactive AND had a slew of suspicion surrounding him
scum-MD gets so caught up in trying to look town that he forgets d3x shot him
Here's the thing, the above is much more likely than town-MD actually trying to figure out who scum is. Town doesn't worry about looking town and trying to point out as many things as possible to try and look town. They care about what's happened.
Is it possible town-MD forgot his read on d3x went to prob town due to the Monkey kill and then didn't look over his post before posting....maybe, but add in other posts such as
In post 373, mnemonicdevice wrote:Hmm... Well that is interesting. One post missed about dayvig target and suddenly I am scum.
Which is a lie as he clearly didn't MISS that d3x dayvig'ed Monkey
In post 330, mnemonicdevice wrote:Kthx is town to me now.
Aronis is now null, and D3x is still null, but not because of lack of content.
Which is fluffy non-committal crap (btw, notice d3x has plenty of content...which means he has looked at d3x...but in this post he didn't see the vig shot?). Either he didn't read a damn thing before posting this (why would town do that?) or he's trying to give some reads to not look inactive. This also comes out of the blue AFTER reading Aronis as scum and town reading Von (which switches again in his reads post).
He's all over the place trying to give reads close to what's popular at the time. He's scum.
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In post 391, d3x wrote:It's only a splash of PL. There's scummy shit in there if you actually look at what she's posted.
Although I agree, there isn't a whole lot of posting, which in itself gives me scum vibes due to her loving the theme and all. I'd hop on her with you if it weren't so obvious that MD was scum. Well....maybe after an Aronis lynch....
In post 391, d3x wrote:If MD flips Town, Von's p370 is super scummy. Hell, even if MD is Scum, it's still a bit scummy.
/agree. Feels forced. Then again, why force this if it's a bus? MD flips scum, in the words of SG, I don't see the motivation for forcing p370. One connection to make from MD's flip.
Another connection: MD flips scum, Aronis hopped on semi-quickly even after giving himself an out with the PL of Kat. If Aronis is scum with MD, he could have waited to bus till MD's lynch was a sure thing. Just a thought.
In post 391, d3x wrote:Re: diablerie- I'm not opposed to giving it to LLD, but I'd prefer to give it to one of SG, Kthx, or myself.
Why SG? As for LLD, meh, seems genuine and I wouldn't be opposed. I don't think you should take it though. You are already a pretty big target for scum. I'd rather them have to pick between the dia receiver and you for the NK than for them to auto-target you.
Speaking of:
In post 390, Aronis wrote: In post 389, SpyreX wrote:I firmly am behind LLD having it. At this point, I don't particularly want it.
Personally, I dislike the idea of giving it to LLD. The way LLD has been about getting it gives me weird vibes.
OH REALLY?! cuz....
If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.
I'm really not getting this. So, he wanted to fake a read on a player who got dayvigged, knew he had actually been dayvigged, but wanted to pretend like he hadn't read well enough to know there was a dayvig and posted earlier in the same post about that dayvig.
