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[Cerulean]

Meh, she knows that you and I would go looking for it and that at least I am not her scumbuddy, so it's not a particularly hard thing to fake. I'm going for actions more than for words.

Then you're going to have to run by me what you're seeing there because, as far as her actions go, I don't see anything that would push me one way or the other. I've tried in the past to come up with a framework for what she'd do as town vs. what she'd do as scum and I got nothing so I end up resorting to trying to read her by things like tone, introspection, etc.

Please can someone explain to me how Cerulean's posts are coming off as remotely pro-town, because I just don't see it. A lot of what they've posted is useless fluff, and I was under the impression that both Empire and Tammy posted better than that in general. *shrug*.

This has to be the most absurd misrepresentation of our posts I've seen in a long while and I've seen some serious bullshit in my time playing this game. There are 38 posts in our collective ISO and I'd wager at least half of them are actual content (giving reads, questioning other players, etc.). Meanwhile, most of your reads have either gone completely unexplained (and I have a hard time believing you have a townread on Plum based off of only those two posts) or accompanied by flat statements like "their posts are bad" (this is a call for more elaboration, on the townreads especially, please).

Vote: Curelean

God, I just love it when scum completely fold under the crushing weight of my arguments, it doesn't happen much anymore and it really makes the blood flow through my murderdick (hello kuribo egosearch).
I really wish I had two votes.

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@Reck:

I don't agree at all that Zdenek's early claim is a scumtell for him, for a couple of reasons:
1) Zdenek is...no offense to him, but a bit out there as town and his reasoning that he'd want to inform the town that scum do not have a framer in #443 is something that fits within that Zdenek-town framework (he did something similar in Marketplace Mafia 3, although that game was a bit different due to the mechanics).
2) This one is especially WIFOM-heavy but early D1 claims like that (miller claims, for example) are usually discussed pre-game and I think this roster as a whole is competent enough that someone would have told him to claim compulsive framer for the cred.

P-edit: If we're going to talk about compromising, I'd much prefer Venmar over UT.

[ChannelDelibird]

Reck, not only do we have it mod-confirmed that abilities are not necessarily a reflection of alignment, but we've already had one person explicitly claim the ability to discern that at least one player in the playerlist is scum. Non-useful abilities are entirely plausible.

I have a fairly strong townread on Zdenek. I do wish Tim would drop it.

Bring me a Shadoweagon. I don't like any of the others on offer, save a righteous but joyless Katsuki lynch.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 1, VC 16

sangres - (1):

Katsuki

Tim Howard - (6):

Sixty, Shadoweh, Cerulean, Zdenek, Untrod Tripod, Nobody Special

Cerulean - (1):

Venmar

Sixty - (1):

kanyeknowsbest

Katsuki - (4):

sangres,

Nero Cain

, Lady Lambdadelta, Flipping Awesome

Venmar - (2):

chamber, Plum

Shadoweh - (1):

ChannelDelibird

Zdenek - (2):

Tim Howard, xRECKONERx

Not voting - (0):

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With

18

alive it takes

10

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

26th of April at 5pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)

Plum is V/LA.[/area]
Any mistakes? Please PM me.

[Nero Cain]

a righteous

but joyless

Katsuki lynch.

FIFY!!!

[Sixty]

Bring me a Shadoweagon.

I'm not seeing it.

P-edit: If we're going to talk about compromising, I'd much prefer Venmar over UT.

Blink-skimming suggested Venmar as dumb Town. But I'm going to be spending the evening reading the thread so etc. You really should consider UT though, at least enough to drop the "much".

[Sixty]

Also @Cerulean - You're still voting for Tim Horton's, which is still a righteous and joyful wagon no matter what ChannelDelibird says. (Whether they're Town changes nothing about the righteousness or joy of it tbqh.)

[Venmar]

God, I just love it when scum completely fold under the crushing weight of my arguments,

Lol, yeah okay, whatever you say man.

[Shadoweh]

NS: I know Lambda and her pick pretty well. Is there a reason you're bothering me about this? The only other option would be LLD telling me this in a QT, which I then decided to say in thread because I'm an idiot.

Something something framer claim, Zdenek outted it in his first post then never mentioned it again, kind of like outting when you're a miller. There is literally no other use for the role as town then what Zdenek did, and if he's trying to ride it he's not riding very hard. If the question is "Why would Zdenek have a useless ability?" the answer is "Because Faraday." See: The blue guy on the votecounts. I thought you knew Faraday's mod style better then that, Reck.

Empire is never going to forgive me for Viscon. At least we're thinking the same RE Tim Hortons. I kind of think Venmar's posting has improved compared to TH continuing to take a nosedive. Even if he can't spell your name right.

[Katsuki]

I don't like any of the others on offer, save a righteous but joyless Katsuki lynch.

K

UNVOTE, VOTE: TIM HOWARD

[Nobody Special]

Is there a reason you're bothering me about this?

Forgive me for trying to play the game.



-Nobody Special

[chamber]

Anyone with useless abilities should probably use them on me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

wait wait wait.

Is it ANY active ability?

[xRECKONERx]

I (and presumably the other puppyhalf who has more experience with Zdenek) don't really think Z is scum. Assuming for a moment that Tim Howard is Town based on ChannelDelibird insisting he's not pulling his read out of his arse, would you be interested in compromising onto Untrod Tripod?

Oh I'll compromise

all over

Untrod Tripod

[Untrod Tripod]

hot

[Untrod Tripod]

except if you're gonna compromise how about you compromise on Venmar, who's like, actually scum though

[Katsuki]

Venmar's not Fat and Sassy though.

[Untrod Tripod]

...do you not have an all caps post restriction?

[chamber]

wait wait wait.

Is it ANY active ability?

If you mean me, any that target are fine.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

wait wait wait.

Is it ANY active ability?

If you mean me, any that target are fine.

So what if we decided our lynch target today, and then no lynched, and I used my ability on you and that person. It targets you, is an active, and I unilaterally make the choice of who dies.

[chamber]

wait wait wait.

Is it ANY active ability?

If you mean me, any that target are fine.

So what if we decided our lynch target today, and then no lynched, and I used my ability on you and that person. It targets you, is an active, and I unilaterally make the choice of who dies.

I suspected that wouldn't work because of the double target thing, but I could ask. The upside is also pretty small, hence 'useless' actions, like a framer.

[chamber]

Even if it does work, verifying which of us is which is impossible without using out of game knowledge, which seems cheap.

[Katsuki]

...do you not have an all caps post restriction?

MINADAY IS MOST LOVING AND FORGIVING AND WILL FORGIVE ALL SINS

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Even if it does work, verifying which of us is which is impossible without using out of game knowledge, which seems cheap.

Just put something you and I would only know in there. I don't care if it's cheap~.

[chamber]

Wont work, like I suspected.

[Shadoweh]

...do you not have an all caps post restriction?

If he does, Katsuki has broken it at least twice already. I suspect the restriction might be in his heart.

I was kind of hoping sixTy would answer my bullet points from earlier even if I'm getting a gist of how Sixty feels about them. >_> Mostly because I would like to talk in the thread about something besides my cuteness rating. Being ignored makes me very sleepy..
In point of order, there's already somewhat of a consensus reached, and vote subject Tim Howard doesn't seem inclined to reach back out, so it feels like we're standing around pointlessly right now. Other then continuing to softclaim really loudly..

Forgive me for trying to play the game.

It's kind of rolefishing. Which is why I asked why you asked me. Unless you thought the both of us are scum together I don't see why you would want to press a possible link between me and LLD.