NY 168: (GAME OVER) The Mod is Dead, Fire and Ice Edition

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After a little kerfuffle, I'm here and ready to town it up.

I like Mastin for Town, I like Dry-fit and Yiley for scum.

Either works, but let's go for Yiley.

Vote: Yiley

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One of Maxous and Matias is scum.

PEdit: I loved you guys too much to leave

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it's multiball?

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look guys I literally walked in, read the game, made a longish post, posted a greeting, got it deleted, talked with mod, lost post, talked with mod again, returned and summarized

I don't know at what point I was meant to read the rules, honestly

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I'm not gonna argue with that.

Thoughts on Yiley and Dry-fit, Mastin?

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Excellent.

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No, this wagon is scum. I feel it in my bones.

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No, this wagon is scum. I feel it in my bones.

Are you saying the wagon is ON scum, or the wagon itself is scum?

Take a wild guess why I'm on it.

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Matias my boy, continue your reading! I slipped from scum #1 to scum #2 seamlessly.

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Well, I think my vote has been lost.

Regardless...

Unvote
Vote: Dry-fit

D-FIT MY BOY
YOU'RE UP FOR THE NOOSE
TELL THE DEAD QT TO WAIT UP FOR YOUR SCUMBUDDIES
THEY'LL BE IN WITH YOU DAMN SOON

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Fire & Ice is in the title. I think it's pretty clear it's multiball.

TSO I see you have not been reading any of Bulba's posts.

I also see you missed Mastins.

Why?

Who needs to read Bulba's

shitty wagon

posts when you've got

swag

caught scum at home?

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nearly forgot
UNVOTE: Yiley
VOTE: JKLM

Do you think this vote is based on JKLM's scumminess or his ability?

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It's aimed at you, most definitely.

Let's look back.

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This game further proves that I will have difficulty forever on trying to read gamr.

I've got nothing to say right now honestly so I'm gonna sit back and watch a lot of this. May as well ask a question to mastin, TSO and matias: what is the scummiest post so far?

The part where he asks the scummiest post is bad, I'll admit. The rest? Laziness, and I sure can empathise with that.

VOTE: yuni

Sorry but you're def scum now with that post containing your crappy reads list and she melds self counterwagoning which is partially my fault for building. Let's lych you tidy shall we?

This looks to me like standard scumhunting. Wrong, but not scummy. I can't understand where you picked up that he felt ashamed of the other team running up ...Town? Why would he even be ashamed of that?

For this to even partially work, you must assume both me and the person the wagon is on are scum.

No you wouldn't. As town you would have.

I don't even know why you quoted this.

Hey mastin

Wanna get a counter wagon going?

He asks Mastin because he doesn't feel he has the necessary pull or authority to do it by himself. This is insecure town.

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You'll all think I'm Town when Dry-fit flips scum. Promise.

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Seriously, this is the damn wagon to be ON.

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We need more JKLM votes.

No thanks.

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TSO you didn't explain why the DryFit wagon is the wagon to be on. In your own time.

If you don't like it, then explain why.

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Desperado, continue pushing. I grant you permission to do so.

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*headdesk*

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Mastin's gonna be a bitch to beat if he's scum this game, dammit.

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What did you think of Matias' claim, Pere?

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If you don't like it, then explain why.

Uh, no, that isn't how this works. The Dry-Fit wagon is based on a non-issue from what I can tell.

You explain why it's such a great wagon that I must be on it!

Good people on it, sound reasoning for it, TSO stamp of approval. What more is there?

What did you think of Matias' claim, Pere?

Just skimmed back through and didn't see it. Post#?

Oh God, you didn't catch his softclaim?

Trying so hard not to be a dick right now.

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Yo, was V/LA, re-reading.

Slandaar's attempt at dispelling the Dry-fit wagon is him quoting an ISO of me being lazy as fuck. If he wants to assume I'm that bad as scum, he can but he's wrong.

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Scum d1, looking good.

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We were right?

*puts on sunglasses, struts*

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So we were right? Axcellent.

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Opportunism noted.

Aptil probably does this all the time.

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So Tso you see nothing wrong with hammer? I'm extremely frustrated at that hammer I felt I had found genuine scum and The hammer seemed opportunistic as I had just built momentum on JKLM. It felt like all my reads were pissed on and then shoved down my fucking throat.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but are you sure aptil is scum as opposed to a fool?

Don't let anger blind you.

Well. No reason given from Aptil to vote Dry-fit, this is certainly interesting. TSO, I'd like to know why you seem to dismiss that hammer. Possible maf partner noted.
Oh my gosh Maxous

was

maf. I feel so happy.

VOTE: Aptil, and he better give me a good reason why he's inno if he wants to change my vote

.

You're so remarkably surface deep in your perceptions.

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Have you ever seen aptil play apart from here?

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Well. No reason given from Aptil to vote Dry-fit, this is certainly interesting. TSO, I'd like to know why you seem to dismiss that hammer. Possible maf partner noted.
Oh my gosh Maxous

was

maf. I feel so happy.

VOTE: Aptil, and he better give me a good reason why he's inno if he wants to change my vote

.

Hello Ice Scum.

I agree, but I was townreading YC. Hmm.

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VOTE: YuniChikako

I'm excited to see in the next vote count if the mods are serious about only counting votes with vote tags.

Shameless wagon-hopping RVS vote screams of opportunism.

Yuni's response to her wagon looked townish.

Unvote.

About mastin's townslip: I see it, but it's not the kind of thing I put a ton of stock in. Calling a townslip on yourself is always questionable as well.

Maxous seems town to me based on the last game I played with him but not a super strong read.

No one looks particularly scummy at the moment but I can see Toomai as scum.

Vote: Toomai.

Slides away from the wagon with vague reasoning. Gives vague reads and weakens them using words like "seems". Barely has any reads.

Dry-fit is a somewhat-strong scumread, but not nearly as strong as I'd prefer him to be.

Yeah I'm feeling off my game in this on so far. Are you going to explain your read on me like you said you would? And why do you want me to be a strong scumread? Have something against me?

I'm not really liking Yiley right now. Didn't follow up on his Yuni vote and hasn't brought any other scumreads to the table.

Matias' attack on the Yuni wagon doesn't feel quite right either.

More vague reads, more vague reasoning, more weakening of scumreads, more not following up on them.

Starting to see a pattern here?

I would like mastin to explain his read on me at some point.

Don't like apologizing for looking scummy, don't like buddying Mastin, and I really don't like the hypocritical, voteless mudsling on Yiley.

It doesn't even end with looking scummy. I haven't gotten any scumreads better than marginal and only a couple townreads I would consider solid.
I don't see how my post is buddying mastin.
I should point out that I've made the case that being hypocritical can be legitimate multiple times as town.

Being hypocritical isn't scummy, therefore my hypocrisy is okay.

Just because something isn't scummy doesn't mean it's right.

In the same vein, how can anyone instantly believe that Yuni had scum motivation behind posting her first post?

Because it wasn't a good reason to suspect Slandaar. It's possible for a read like that to come from a townie with a playstyle issue, but it was something that is likely to come from scum. You may have seen things differently, but I've got news for you. Not everyone sees things the same way you do.

You're allegedly town and you don't feel comfortable putting forth any scumreads but are voting someone for doing the same. If anything, Yiley's apparent difficulty in acquiring scumreads be a towntell to town-you who is having difficulty acquiring townreads.

Did you read the links explaining my views about hypocrisy, or are you not interested in actually determining my alignment?

If anyone can convince me of:

-Maxous town
-Yiley scum

good luck and I will be impressed.

Maxous' play looks different from when I last played with him in Hunter X Hunter mafia where he was scum. He was playing a much more passive game there. Plus he has his vote in a good place on Toomai. I don't expect this to convince you but that's my view on him.

Actually you might be right about Yiley. 245 feels like it's coming from town.

Also if one of TSO or mastin is scum I think the other is based on post 167 I didn't think TSO's was much of a townslip.

This post is filled with poor reasoning, I'm not going through it all.

I have no interest in starting a necromancy war when his flip completely suits your agenda. I get you've been lining me up since d1, but here isn't where you'll do it.

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and there we go, let's start the necromancy war.

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Fine, we ride.

Show that I deliberately didn't give a case because I didn't have one as opposed to being a lazy fuck.

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Now show me where the scumminess is as opposed to complete laziness.

Your explanation is nearly right, I'll reword it for you.

I had a good reason, as posted, which I knew was good, couldn't be bothered to post it because I was very sure Dry-fit was scum, because there was no resistance to require the case, because the person asking for it (you) was being an antagonistic fuck and because I was being lazy, then when he flipped Town I cry foul because it isn't fair that the crux of your argument is that I was wrong.

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Your last post is such a bundle of misreps, strawmen and general horseshit I don't know where to begin.

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But I vote people who I think are scum. And I don't think you're scum, I just feel you're completely misguided.

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Think that there's definitely scum within lurkers, don't think that both Bulbazak and Mastin are Town. I think Bulba is far too experienced to call aptil's hammer scummy and I don't know why he'd do it.

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I can see JKLM being scum still. But I also saw his last post was on 22nd of December so voting him now would make pressure absolutely useless. So I think I will give the player who enters it a big hard push because I think it's now obvious JKLM will replace out.

The Slaandar vs Tso help reassures me that slaandar is town I have a couple of doubts on tso I find him hard to read as I see him as scum in most my games He rarely appears town. He appears scummier than Usual this game So I support a tso lynch.

Also like someone said before Njac opener post was meh but the following questions were good.

Desps vote on yiley is unexpected not in a bad way through I was kinda losing faith in desp after the Dry fit lynch.

Mastin you mention before pretty much through out day 1 that

-Aptil scum with Bulbazak, or town.

So what do you think linked aptil to bulb and what was the major factor that changed it.

Still a lot player base has remained silent and lurky ....

I don't think you've ever seen me as scum.

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Mastin, 2 things.

1. [FANBOY]Adored the Pompeii-Bastille flavor in NY164![/FANBOY]

2. Explain how I handled the necromancy-cum-accusation better than Slandaar.

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Slandaar, re-analyse your reads. YC is also Town.

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I think he's playing it very carefully, because he doesn't have to contend with just town this time. He knows that his normal play would probably result in him being killed, and he knows that would be bad for his team (Remember, he's against bussing for similar reasons.). He's laying low, and I read over his posts, and I know for a fact that we're not dealing with town Mastin this game.

What posts, specifically?

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V/La for short while.

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Oh god Slandaar, you're so cute.

Tonight I'll get to this.

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DODGE CONTENT PROMISE

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So went back and re-read for the sole purpose of sorting out Mastin. To really test this, I looked at readslists, got my conclusions, then checked his.

re: Maxous' readslists, they're exactly the same, exactly. the. same.

Bulba, I tried, but pretty sure you're incorrect here.

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So went back and re-read for the sole purpose of sorting out Mastin. To really test this, I looked at readslists, got my conclusions, then checked his.

re: Maxous' readslists, they're exactly the same, exactly. the. same.

Bulba, I tried, but pretty sure you're incorrect here.

I'm not seeing any past Maxous and mastin2 readslists being the same. Can you clarify?

Mastin analysed Maxous' readlists and came up with conclusions. To test his mindset, I did it myself before looking at his conclusions. We had the same ones.

Whether that's good or bad, idk, but it indicates Mastin-town.

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But isn't it a distinct disadvantage for scum to come into a game advertised and titled as multiball and act like it isn't?

Yes it probably would be, but, your question isn't really applicable. Think about how many people said they didn't realise it was multiball, there were quite a few, this shows not everyone knew (they are not all going to be scum - I didn't realise myself either). If not everyone knew then you can't assume the scum knew it was advertised as such and behaved in accordance with that information.

Take TSO as a better, more specific, example, for him to be town he must genuinely not have known the game was advertised as multiball. This means, if he is scum he would also not have known it is advertised as such (he would know it IS but not that it is advertised). This means he would post as if he didn't know it was multiball because to come in acting like it is multiball when he doesn't know town know is a surefire way to get lynched in him mind.

Alternatively, I was town and clueless, because I was almost replaced before I even posted.

Occam's Razor.

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One of Desp, Bulba, PV and Yiley is scum with Maxous, according to his reads.

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Desp's start attacking YC makes him Town.

Can't figure out the other three, though - they all interacted with Maxous. You guys should look at them.

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I'm so genuinely conflicted right now.

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Unvote
Vote: Yuni

Still think Yuni and Penguin are not on the same team and Penguin's initial reads look really good to me. Especially the Yuni bit, which generally would give me some pause but the point she raises is so damn good (and unique, unless I missed someone else already bringing it up) that it makes up for her coming in and FOSing her counterwagon.

No, not good.

how is anybody reading Slandaar as town god damn

he's so town misguided, though. you can see he was geared up to go after me because he was mad yesterday I wasn't answering.

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Actually, I've just been convinced by Matias.

Vote: YC

This is incredibly bad, but it's all I got.

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It's hard to know whether he's in a generous, comtemplative mood or just flat-out didn't read it.

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pacman, what did you think of Matias' case?

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This is incredibly bad, but it's all I got.

Then you weren't really convinced by Matias, then, were you?

It's more so bad because it has a complete lack of imput from me - I dislike sheeping in most forms. The case itself was rather convincing.

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okay, so talk to me, Bulba.

Do you think YC will flip scum?

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What the fuck are these nightkills?

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Vote: evilpacman18

I believe p_a's ego is too great for her to kamikaze on d3 as scum.

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Mastin, why the actual fuck are you trying to start a wagon when we have confirmed scum?

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btw fire guys, aim for town, we will too, cross-kills hurt us both right now.

vote: evilpacman18

How dumb do you think the Fire team is? They shoot Town and you shoot at them? lmao

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Out of a 13-3-3 set-up, it'll be 8-2-2 at the end of this day.

Assuming two town deaths and a mislynch, Town is at 5-4 and basically doesn't control the majority. Meanwhile the game comes down to scum taking potshots at each other.

I'm sure that appeals to the Fire team.

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But your team isn't aiming for Town. They're aiming for Fire. So while Fire kill Town, you kill them, allowing you to win.

You assume the Fire team are morons, which to follow your plan which is biased towards an Ice win, they would have to be.

Put the noose around your neck and stop trying to manipulate, EPM. It's done.

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Rach I have a feeling you are part of team firescum.
TSO/Toomai/Rach/NJAC

Toomai is ice, Rach fire, the other 2 are kind of interchangeable but eh NJAC fire, TSO ice.

literally you are rubbish if you are calling me Ice. Either you're not reading or you have some sort of disorder which prevents you accurately processing information.

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It's incredibly stupid me laying out the case for why I'm not Ice, but if it shows your flawed logic up I'm more than happy.

For me to be Ice, you would have to believe I'm openly telling the other team not to follow the strategy most beneficial to my team, which has been posted by one of my scumbuddies.

This is incredibly bad play.

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Toomai wagon going too quickly for my liking.

Garmr and Slandaar are definitely not bussing him. Despy, I don't know.

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Vote: aptil

Still think he's scum.

If you're Town, this is fucking rubbish.

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Bulba, what did you think about the Mastin flip?

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Hmm. Toomai's probably Ice if scum, I don't think Maxous was bussing him d1.

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penguin_alien, what was your rationale for using the ice inspection on evilpacman?

Desperado and Toomai -should- be scum, since I just ISO'd Desp and it's looking bad.

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vote: Slandaar

either is fine.

vote: JKLM

This wouldn't be so bad by itself.

Fire:
Maxous
Slandaar
JKLM

Ice:
Yiley
aptil
????

Aptil is cleared of Ice-scum.

Garmr is doing the Lord's work in 581, I'm glad we see the same relationship between Maxous and JKLM. do you have an idea of teams yet? and how do you feel about Slandaar?

As is Garmr.

vote: Slandaar

woah deja vu

vote: JKLM

What the fuck is this?

vote: Desperado

This is significant, somehow, I think.

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Why wouldn't he be Fire?

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Garmr and Slandaar are definitely not bussing him. Despy, I don't know.

Why does it matter if the wagon is going fast if he is scum and you are assuming hes scum and just trying to figure out who is bussing?

That doesn't make much sense Tee Ess Oh

Because the possibility he's -not scum- presents itself?

Toomai is ice

Hmm. Toomai's probably Ice if scum

Hey look we agree on something.

Lets lynch him, I know hes your buddy so it might be hard to put the vote down but really, you should do it, afterall you never know, maybe you will convince me you are town.

So, you're calling a Toomai-TSO-pacman team?

Show me interactions which align us in that team, then.

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It's time for you to step up if you're going to call teams. Here's your chance, Slandaar.

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Not confident in Rachscum, honestly. Toomai over Rach.

Slandaar you literally answered fucking NOTHING I asked of you.

At this stage I'm hoping you're scum because your town game is absolutely awful. You can't even back up your bullshit accusations with any sort of proof, at all.

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No, you didn't. You got people you thought looked scummy and fucked them into teams, and then you claimed to have a full set of scumreads, when you definitely don't.

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Oh, yes I did. Let me get to it.

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Fire:
Maxous
Slandaar
JKLM

Ice:
Yiley
aptil
????

I can't see pacman naming his own teammate correctly in a list of two.

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Slandaar, Toomai, Desperado, RachMarie.

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Vote: Toomai

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How useful do you think you're being, Rach?

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Unvote

I'm loath just to clear him on this, I guess.

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What would be the scum motivation for posting that?

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Despy, there's only one way I could believe this is coming from Town-you, and you don't want to put it out there.

Is that what you're talking about?

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penguin_alien's talking sense.

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If he is or isn't a Doctor, he's still claiming it. Meaning that if there's a Town Doctor, they'll have counterclaimed.

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that's admittedly a good vote.

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that's admittedly a good vote.

Is he bussing or voting to kill the other scum?

He's not bussing, that's for sure.

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Vote: Slandaar

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Incinerated or melted into buttermilk or melted into butter which was then inexplicably burnt.

If you please.

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I struggle to see how my Desp interactions are scum-scum, but go ahead Garmr.

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We can assume Toomai isn't Fire, and we can assume Desp thought he was Town, not Ice.

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Peregrine, I don't think Rach was bussing Desp.

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We can assume Toomai isn't Fire, and we can assume Desp thought he was Town, not Ice.

I don't get this either. Are we assumign Toomai isn;t fire because we are assuming he's the doc?

Why we would assume Desp thought Tommai was town and not scum-Ice doc?

We're assuming Toomai isn't Fire because Desp was pushing him like a mad cunt.

And I think Desp thought he was Town because a Town Doctor makes more sense for this set-up, and it's more dangerous to scum.

Though now you mention it, it's maybe possible that Toomai, as the last Fire, nk'd last night to confirm himself. But the again, I'm pretty sure he's not Fire.

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well that means fire and ice shot the same person.

I think JS's kill flavour is incredibly ambiguous. I myself think it's Ice alone, but I could see how Ice Burn is Fire & Ice.

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I know what Ice Burn is, but in Pokemon it's Ice-based, so I wasn't sure did it involve Fire.

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mastin2 was turned into a Kebab,

@Mod: Please can you reword this as I am finding it incredibly ambiguous

How is it ambiguous? I felt it clearly pointed to a fire scum kill.

Vote NJAC

The only way TSO should be lynched is if he's on the next scum lynch and is still around the next day.

We may need to talk about that, Bulba.

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"The main fact is you called desp possible scum and him on his scum to lynch lists 4 times and never voted him once and when tso had his chance to vote either rach marie or desp he did neither. This suggest to me he was hesitant about doing either action which is weird because he was scum reading them both."

This is me voteparking, which is a characteristic of my play. I can draw up multiple instances of meta in this.

As for me and EPM: the interaction is me trying to get him to be quiet. I was actually trying to manipulate Fire in that post.

You're trying too hard, but you're Town as fuck.

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I think JS's kill flavour is incredibly ambiguous. I myself think it's Ice alone, but I could see how Ice Burn is Fire & Ice.

Why then are you voting me?

TSO I think you forgot to answer my very important question.

You can literally see the answer to the question in the lower part of your post, so I think you know -why- I'm voting you.

Unvote

This is me voteparking, which is a characteristic of my play. I can draw up multiple instances of meta in this.

Vote parking no-one? lets see this meta then.

The best case for firescum was made by PV on Rach although my case is very solid also.

TSO/NJAC Ice, Rach Fire.

You have fun with that, I guess.

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Looked at Desp's wagon. If someone was bussing, it was Rach.

But it seems odd that he naked voted Rach in retaliation.

Ugh.

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You can literally see the answer to the question in the lower part of your post, so I think you know -why- I'm voting you.

Because you are unsure? I see no answer. You think its an Ice only kill therefore from your POV I am cleared of fire scum and should be near enough cleared of Ice, no?

Voteparking, you fool.

You have fun with that, I guess.

Oh, I will! I want this meta you said you could produce.

Sure.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

#738, I state I votepark a lot.

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Why are you wasting your time, Garmr?

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Why are you wasting your time, Garmr?

Are you implying zek is a waste of time?

Elite as it sounds, yes.

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Policy lynching seems like a bad idea, I guess, but I CAN'T READ ZEK FOR SHIT.

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Bloody hell, but I'm so disconnected from this fucking game I'll follow you.

Vote: Zekrom25

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Grow up, guys, we were lynching him regardless.

Though interesting reactions.

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Personally, I think Ice, but I hope Fire.

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Indeedy.

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Also, after the Zek scumflip, if TSO is still around tomorrow and I'm dead, make sure you lynch him. He's scum in that case.

Remember when I told you we needed to talk?

Tonight.

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Not that you ever believed my claim, of course.

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Can we assume Garmr is ...scum?

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I KNEW IT

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literally his entrance was so scumfuck, and that Fire-proof thing wasn't believable at all.

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Vote: Aptil

It was a crappy hammer.

Now, who had Maxous pegged as scum day1?

Also, Merry belated Christmas to everyone!!

Why are crappy hammers scummy?

Do you really think ice-scum announced their Maxous scumreads and then murdered him? That doesn't seem like good multiscum play to me.

Vote: Peregrine

@ Bulb: Which team is Mastin on?

This doesn't feel like a bus.

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He thought I was going to nightkill him. I fed some bullshit to him about being a third party called "Genie." I doubt he believed it. He thought I was going to nightkill him.

His QT posts look pretty Town, but I'd expect scum-Bulba to be able to do that.

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Rach doesn't seem like a terrible bet.

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You're that confident in me?

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Fair enough.

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wait fuck there's only 5 of us?

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that being said, this feels like town Des which I have mistakenly read as scum before, so willing to give him the benefit of the doubt in this game. Now watch he will turn up scum just to screw with my head lol

This is the only really incriminating evidence against Rach, apart from multiple duff hammers and poor pressure on Desp.

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Maxous was pushing ArcAngel hard, who is Rach's slot, on page 1, while townreading Desp.

1 partner scum, 1 Town, it fits.

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Why are you Townreading Bulba?

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It's 3/3, in fairness.

Rach was reading off the first post, which isn't updated.

What that means, idk.

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Rach, Garmr flipped Fire scum.

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Bulba, do you think Rach is smart enough to pull that?

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you'll get it soon, but I'm not insulting you.

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This feels wrong.

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Rach, I thiink.

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This has all the prints of us tunneling on and getting her lynched and she flips Town. I've seen it so many times.

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You were calling NJAC Ice-scum but you hadn't ISO'd them?

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But Fire-scum remains, so Garmr interactions are null.

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I'm trying to decide how likely it is that Rach would skip the Garmr entrance into the day and subsequent modkill and flip. I'd hate for her to win by feigning ignorance.

I thought it seemed a little desperate when she made a PV case, then went straight back and made an NJAC case.

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mmmgh, I have a flu and it's not even funny how badly I'm feeling atm. I'll try, but it could be a while til I'm back.

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hi yo

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I'm just so apathetic.

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Bulba, is it better if we talk in the QT? idk.

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I have this horrible feeling you could be scum but I'm dead tonight and I'm so mentally tired I'm not even entertaining paranoia.

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I ...don't want to lynch Rach.

unvote

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Of course I can neighbourise scum.

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Bulb and TSO stay strong you two can still win this, even if I am lynched today,

I am just a VT as I said.

Of the two Pere and Aegor, vote Aegor.

Good luck

This is me when I'm getting lynched telling Town exactly what they do when they've fucked it up by getting me.

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It is, but you're not Rach.

Why are you townreading Bulba?

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He's not conftown.

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Do you think Bulba has -any- problem bussing?

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We should all massclaim, I guess.

Town 1-shot Neighbouriser.

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Fuck, what am I doing?

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If Bulba's scum, we're fucked. He's probably not though. It's between Aegor and PV now.

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Vote: Maxous

I think we were in a game about this same time last year, and I haven't seen in you a while.

I was down to lynch Dry-fit when the wagon started but 269 makes him seem town to me. He's not too concerned with his own survival to still scumhunt.

Anyway I'm caught up finally.

Do you think his lack of defense is related in any way to the fact he doesn't have one?

Do you think not having a defense is scummy?

He does have a defense, it's just mindbogglingly stupid (and scummier than no defense at all).

Wow, missed it. What post?

Sweet, sweet hammer.

If Desp flips scum then RachMarie is on his team.

Vote: Desparado

this shit is supporting PV scum.

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idk. Lynch Aegor and PV.

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Meh, I feel my play in the latter days was decent (knew Bulba was Town, didn't mislynch Rach, called Aegor) etc.

Apologies, Dry-fit.

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It wasn't me, mastino.

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I was a rubbish Neighbourizer but it's a kool role.