It's more like a statement.In post 968, xRECKONERx wrote: I'm assuming you, too, do not have a reason for voting me!
So what's stopping you? Let me put it this way:Tim Howard wrote:The justice bones in my body really want to lynch the crap out of Katsuki for ignoring the Sixty/Reck thing while it was happening. He's just completely all over the road, especially tonight. Mark me down as 'willing to vote Kats' for the Day.
MAYBE BECAUSE RECK/SIXTY IS HARD TO READ AND REQUIRES SITTING DOWN AT A COMP?In post 974, Tim Howard wrote:So that entire sixty/reck discussion was interesting, but left me with basically nothing other than "boy they seem mad at each other." They both made good points and they both made bad points. Pretty much came out a wash at this point.
The justice bones in my body really want to lynch the crap out of Katsuki for ignoring the Sixty/Reck thing while it was happening. He's just completely all over the road, especially tonight. Mark me down as 'willing to vote Kats' for the Day.
I would vote Reck to save our bacon, but I feel similarly as I did in my previous post with Shadoweh - generally unconvinced either way at this point.
CHAMBER THIS IS THE INCOMPETENCE YOU'RE CALLING TOWNIn post 975, Shadoweh wrote:It's more like a statement.In post 968, xRECKONERx wrote: I'm assuming you, too, do not have a reason for voting me!
So what's stopping you? Let me put it this way:Tim Howard wrote:The justice bones in my body really want to lynch the crap out of Katsuki for ignoring the Sixty/Reck thing while it was happening. He's just completely all over the road, especially tonight. Mark me down as 'willing to vote Kats' for the Day.
VOTE: Katsuki
Oh so why aren't we killing you then? I completely ignored oyu because I thought chamber called you town.In post 979, Shadoweh wrote:chamber is not calling me town at all. <_< Speaking of incompetent?
Sixty pointing out that the PLAIN RED reference was likely to roles and not just about Admin coloring made me sufficiently less sure about her, also the slot managed to be extremely scummy in the same instance, which helped. I also previously assumed that the town color was actually the admin color (being aligned with mith and all) because the skin mafBlack updates that color to (FF0000) the color the town actually is. Which is better described as PLAIN RED than the admin color is, which is why I had overlooked that reference.In post 981, Katsuki wrote:Oh so why aren't we killing you then? I completely ignored oyu because I thought chamber called you town.In post 979, Shadoweh wrote:chamber is not calling me town at all. <_< Speaking of incompetent?
I experience that often, and I'm never sure if it's because I'm being very clever or very dumb, I'm always sure it's one of the 2 though.
The idea in my head at the time that she just fucked up: when I first read the line, I did a double take because I couldn't believe that had been posted. Her reaction to this whole thing is what made me think I probably jumped the gun on that one and now I'm just not at all as sure as I was before (as an aside, the town color isn't really something I think about or put in effort into trying to remember when I'm scum but that's probably because I'm bad at it, so).In post 882, Sixty wrote:But assuming they know the Town colorthat is in the very first pageisn't all that nonsensical, yes?
"Passive" might be a decent word there? The thing is she looks like scum particularly because she does remind me of that game in the ways I mentioned but my biggest concern right now is that it might be activity related (since she's been V/LA for a large part of this Day phase). I could vote her but I wouldn't feel confident in it at all.In post 884, sangres wrote:Empire, you remember thinking that my Plum town-case in pennipedum looked too simplistic to be town?
If I had been town and had to explain why I thought Plum was town in that game, the case would have been very similar but I would have gone on a bit more about why the Plum in the On A Boat game was different.
I'm not seeing quite the same level of <I'm looking for a word here but I don't think there's a single word that hits the mark - ambiguity, many words that say not much, off-to-the-side> play, but IMO she's much closer to that than to the open, engaged, in the moment play I saw in Pennipedum.
I can move our vote there. But, I'd much rather be on a wagon that you and F-16 both think are scum if I'm not going to stick with nacho's strongest scum read.
Uh, I just looked over what Nacho had posted about him in #295 and he says there that Katsuki as town tends to talk about how Nacho should be able to read him. Is that not what he's doing here (#626)? What more were you guys expecting from his reaction (I don't think Katsuki really one much for detail when he's town)?In post 936, sangres wrote:ha! even as I was answering this with "not at all since our first set of reads lists" I was getting text messages from him <3
I like that you're engaging me about our reads.
He feels pretty strongly about his katsuki read and I'm feeling a little bad about moving our vote rather than trying to push that wagon by proxy.
He feels like Katsuki's push on him in this game feels a lot like his push on kuribo in Anything Goes. And that his reaction to Nacho's push doesn't feel at all as organic as his town reactions usually are.
Basically I think he's calling Empire's meta-town read on Katsuki too shallow.
It might be a good word but it's not what I thought about her play in On A Boat. "Impenetrable" maybe. At the time, I thought she was playing so differently (and maybe better) than I was, because most of the players both at the start and as the replacements came in were people I had no experience with (but in several cases had experience playing with each other), and it was hard for me to say if reads I disagreed with were bad reads or if my reads were bad.In post 986, Cerulean wrote:"Passive" might be a decent word there? The thing is she looks like scum particularly because she does remind me of that game in the ways I mentioned but my biggest concern right now is that it might be activity related (since she's been V/LA for a large part of this Day phase). I could vote her but I wouldn't feel confident in it at all.
I think I'm at my limit of channeling Nacho and trying to fill in the blanks. Hopefully tomorrow either he and I can talk by text more so I understand his concerns better or he can make an appearance.Cerulean wrote:Uh, I just looked over what Nacho had posted about him in #295 and he says there that Katsuki as town tends to talk about how Nacho should be able to read him. Is that not what he's doing here (#626)? What more were you guys expecting from his reaction (I don't think Katsuki really one much for detail when he's town)?In post 936, sangres wrote:ha! even as I was answering this with "not at all since our first set of reads lists" I was getting text messages from him <3
I like that you're engaging me about our reads.
He feels pretty strongly about his katsuki read and I'm feeling a little bad about moving our vote rather than trying to push that wagon by proxy.
He feels like Katsuki's push on him in this game feels a lot like his push on kuribo in Anything Goes. And that his reaction to Nacho's push doesn't feel at all as organic as his town reactions usually are.
Basically I think he's calling Empire's meta-town read on Katsuki too shallow.
First time for everything. =/In post 989, Empire wrote:F-16, right now my townreads are you, Sixty, sangres, Zdenek, chamber, CDB, LLD, and Reck...weaker ones on NS and Katsuki. That leaves a pool of: Shadoweh (who is potentially town via her reactions), kanye, Nero Cain, Plum, Venmar, UT, and Tim Howard (who I'm willing to defer to CDB for now despite my reservations), which is actually part of why this game makes no sense to me as it feels like any combination of 4-5 of them would make a ludicrous team. Makes me feel like I'm wrong somewhere.
I was hoping that my questioning kanye would lead somewhere but it hasn't. The main reason I asked him about the Sixty wagon was that Tammy told me a while back that kanye likes to get reads off of stuff like that as town so I was trying to follow up on that idea but his absence basically negated that whole line of inquiry. I was concerned that his strong townread on Katsuki was an attempt to buddy up to him so I tried to get some more substance there but refusing to elaborate the reasons behind it seems like something he'd do as both alignments.
Fogging (or, much more obscure, pettifogging).In post 884, sangres wrote:<I'm looking for a word here but I don't think there's a single word that hits the mark - ambiguity, many words that say not much, off-to-the-side>
I could go back and re-read it and quote shit, but I'm really not that interested in going back and doing an in-depth re-read of a fairly unpleasant argument near the end of the game day which did not result in significant read changes. *shrug*In post 992, xRECKONERx wrote:I really don't like that quadz's opinion about the me vs Sixty thing seems to just boil down to, "That was interesting but here's why it's null."
I'd be very interested in hearing him expand on what he means by, "They both made some good points, they both made some bad ones." Which points, specifically, did you think were good or bad from either side?
