Graveyard Shift Mafia - ROLL CREDITS

Brian Skies · Post Post #1675 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:57 pm

Well, you already asked the mods the question, so I don't understand why you're asking if I care or not.

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1676 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:58 pm

In post 1672, Serene2 wrote:
In post 1669, Infinite Jesters wrote:would you like to know if lynchers count as scum? cos I sure do!
Only if their target is town. When their target is scum, the lyncher is a POWER ROLE of relentless hounding of scum.

god I cannot tell if you and bird people are on the same team.

but I am pretty sure you are scum

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1677 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:59 pm

In post 1675, Brian Skies wrote:Well, you already asked the mods the question, so I don't understand why you're asking if I care or not.

wouldn't it change up your reads a bit?

Brian Skies · Post Post #1678 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:00 pm

In post 1621, Zdenek wrote:I don't think even one of ika's scum reads is justified by his ISO.

None of them are. And I have zero inkling of any sort of trajectory.

There are some things that he does that makes me think he could be town (like the way he tried to sort through the lover claims and how adamant he was that Titus doesn't gambit as town). And then there is the complete lack of transparency of his reads. I have him as very weak town but I wouldn't oppose a wagon on him.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1679 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:01 pm

@Mollie: No? I already know he's at least anti-town. So the only difference is whether or not I'd consider using a lynch on him.

As far as his reads go, I can't really use them to any degree because they're completely biased towards BnB being scum and whatever helps them get their lynch.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1680 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:03 pm

For the record, I don't think Venmar and Hiplop can be buddies. But you're welcome to discuss that with me if you think otherwise.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1681 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:03 pm

I also think Sven is incredibly town.

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1682 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:07 pm

so why does that not make you want to lynch them?

this is me coming from a I love indies stance but I do not think they are town compatible. I personally think they are scum.

I would like to know how it counts towards parity

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1683 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:09 pm

In post 1680, Brian Skies wrote:For the record, I don't think Venmar and Hiplop can be buddies. But you're welcome to discuss that with me if you think otherwise.

we think venny might be town and our vote is on hiplop wat?

Brian Skies · Post Post #1684 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:12 pm

In post 1632, AGar wrote:Brian Skies would also keep a low profile and generally not rock the boat

I know you're dead and town, but are you fucking kidding me? I would have rocked that shift's world. I would love to be in the same shift as those fucknuts.

You really don't know a thing about me.

*I agree about all your logic regarding the shift switch though. There's a strong chance Venmar could just be town picked out of the weak part of our litter.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1685 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:12 pm

In post 1683, Infinite Jesters wrote:
In post 1680, Brian Skies wrote:For the record, I don't think Venmar and Hiplop can be buddies. But you're welcome to discuss that with me if you think otherwise.
we think venny might be town and our vote is on hiplop wat?

Okay? What's the issue?

All I said is I don't think they could be buddies and if you think I could be wrong about it, you're welcome to talk to me about it.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1686 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:14 pm

In post 1682, Infinite Jesters wrote:so why does that not make you want to lynch them?

Because all I know is that I win when I achieve the white flag mechanic. So if he's groupscum, he deserves to die. If he's just some third party role that doesn't count towards that wincon, I'd rather not waste my lynch on that.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1687 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:15 pm

Not to mention that all he does is tunnel BnB so it's not like we can get much else off of him if he really is 3rd party.

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1688 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:16 pm

In post 1685, Brian Skies wrote:
In post 1683, Infinite Jesters wrote:
In post 1680, Brian Skies wrote:For the record, I don't think Venmar and Hiplop can be buddies. But you're welcome to discuss that with me if you think otherwise.
we think venny might be town and our vote is on hiplop wat?
Okay? What's the issue?

All I said is I don't think they could be buddies and if you think I could be wrong about it, you're welcome to talk to me about it.

so vote hiplop?

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1689 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:17 pm

In post 1687, Brian Skies wrote:Not to mention that all he does is tunnel BnB so it's not like we can get much else off of him if he really is 3rd party.

he is voting venny.

wasn't he a townread of yours

Brian Skies · Post Post #1690 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:18 pm

The problem I have with Hiplop is that I targeted the shit out of him for a mislynch in the last game I had with him. The cogdis he had as town there was off the charts.

Here's his =15569]iso from that game. Take a look at it and let me know what you think.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1691 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:20 pm

In post 1658, Infinite Jesters wrote:NOTE THAT HIPLOP+VENMAR PROBABLY ISN'T LIKELY.

Alright, yeah, you apparently reached a similar conclusion as me. Sorry, I'm a bit behind.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1692 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:21 pm

In post 1689, Infinite Jesters wrote:
In post 1687, Brian Skies wrote:Not to mention that all he does is tunnel BnB so it's not like we can get much else off of him if he really is 3rd party.

he is voting venny.

wasn't he a townread of yours

Who was a townread of mine?

Neither Venny or Serene are townreads of mine. I don't have a clue how to read Venny and I'm not going to pretend I do. Serene hasn't been a townread since he confirmed himself as lyncher.

Infinite Jesters · Post Post #1693 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:22 pm

I don't do meta that I am not actively involved in.

where is your hislop vote

I say vote for serene but I am not the only head in this hydra

Brian Skies · Post Post #1694 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:40 pm

Vote: Hiplop

I don't think anything major is going to change for me in the next 20 minutes.

Is there anything you'd like to discuss while I'm here though?

The Critic · Post Post #1695 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 1663, Infinite Jesters wrote:
@ mods - how does a lyncher work in white flag?

No differently than in any other game? A lyncher would not count as a member of the mafia team, which is the only place the White Flag condition matters. That is, if there were 1 mafia and 1 lyncher left, the game would end in a town win at that point.

Additionally, the previous votecount has been altered to reflect the appropriate number of players / votes to lynch, and AGar has been removed from the list of players in the shift. The failure to do so in the first place was an oversight.

ika · Post Post #1696 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:51 pm

VOTE: hiplop

Does this count as major?

p-edit: does that count?

Brian Skies · Post Post #1697 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:57 pm

In post 1696, ika wrote:VOTE: hiplop

Does this count as major?

p-edit: does that count?

Why are you voting Hiplop anyways?

And no. I was reading Serene as 3rd party lyncher for reasons stated in our previous shift. I wouldn't fight his wagon, but I wouldn't push it either.

Brian Skies · Post Post #1698 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:59 pm

Before I go, I'd like the mods to answer this question for the next shift:

@Mods: Does the existence of a third party role count towards the requirement of there being at least one mafia member at the beginning of each shift (or whatever the rule states)?

The Critic · Post Post #1699 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:07 pm

In post 1698, Brian Skies wrote:@Mods: Does the existence of a third party role count towards the requirement of there being at least one mafia member at the beginning of each shift (or whatever the rule states)?

A third party role would not apply to the # of mafia in a shift rule.