Mini 1564 - Nyctapolis (~owari~)

[pieguyn]

votecount 3.6

Empking (4) - Blue Yoshi, Faster Than Light, Formerfish, notSakura [L-1]

undo (1) - InsidiousLemons
Formerfish (1) - Empking
InsidiousLemons (1) - iamsteve

Not voting (2) - undo, Raging Bull

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is 4/28, 21:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2014-04-28 21:00:00).

[pieguyn]

mlearn2 replaces Raging Bull!

[iamsteve]

Possibilities:

1. Emp scum, Sakura town: Makes sense.
2. Emp scum, Sakura scum: On first sight makes sense, but I realise that this would probably lead to a third role claim at some point and then sakura would get in trouble.
3. Emp town, Sakura scum: Makes also sense, would sacrifice Sakura but force us into lylo.
4. Emp town, Sakura town: I choose to believe this is impossible, although it's probably not.

I was worried mostly about option 2, but the possibility of another player claiming a role makes me feel safer about this. The only thing is, since Sakura has only half-claimed, she might adjust her role abilities to fit in the Setup after another person claimed. So maybe, if another person is going to claim at some point, we should ask Sakura first to tell us her precise abilities before the other person does. Kind of depends who it does. The person we trust more should explain their role later than the other one. So, if anyone has a PR and wants to claim at some point just say that you want to claim first but don't immediately explain which role, please.

So my scumteam at the moment consists of emp, IL, undo. Emp mostly due to the CC situation, we're probably going to make a decision there. I will just say: notSakura actually tried to safe CD on Day 1, and it would have helped town a lot. Not that this is a monster town read, especially since half of the people decided that they rather want herpaderpy SV alive than a player who actually speaks english, but it's better than nothing.

P-Edit:
Hello mlearn2.

[notSakura]

I was worried mostly about option 2, but the possibility of another player claiming a role makes me feel safer about this. The only thing is, since Sakura has only half-claimed, she might adjust her role abilities to fit in the Setup after another person claimed. So maybe, if another person is going to claim at some point, we should ask Sakura first to tell us her precise abilities before the other person does. Kind of depends who it does. The person we trust more should explain their role later than the other one. So, if anyone has a PR and wants to claim at some point just say that you want to claim first but don't immediately explain which role, please.

If town wants i'll full claim before anyone else claims anything, that should clear some paranoia.

[Faster Than Light]

If scum shoots you like they shot SV that would help a lot. Please do.

[InsidiousLemons]

If scum shoots you like they shot SV that would help a lot. Please do.

Seconded. Let's hear this claim.

[iamsteve]

UNVOTE:
Since it's still some time lets see if others have to add something, especially the new guy. Would probably hammer Emp the way it looks though.

[notSakura]

If scum shoots you like they shot SV that would help a lot. Please do.

Ok fine.
Town Doctor, I protected Remilia both nights, my reasoning is that scum roleblocked me N2 or used strongman, which is why i thought the night kill had been town-sided during D2, and D3 i was looking for what could be the cause of Remilia dying despite my protection. I suspect empking's claim because I doubt he has doc + JK while im a full doc that's... too many protections imo.

[Faster Than Light]

Oh that's legit

As I hoped, there would be a doc in the game. Game changer.


Except how would the scum know to role block you? Did they get lucky? Or perhaps a one time strongman...

[notSakura]

I dont think scum knew to roleblock me, they probably got lucky or used strongman, if they had a role cop on me i'd been already dead.
This opens up 2 scenarios. SV was a town motivated kill and i protected Remilia correctly so scum retaliated with a strongman.
SV was a scum motivated kill and scum got lucky with a roleblock while i was protecting remilia OR strongman.
In either case i don't think 2 roles that can protect can coexist, maybe if empking's JOAT had only 1 protect but having 2 makes it swing too much in town's favor imo. What are your thouhgts?

[mlearn2]

I would ask that anyone who is voting empking to unvote for right now. I haven't had the chance to read the thread yet, so I'd like to make sure no one is lynched before I am caught up.

[Faster Than Light]

lol I think we already established that smoking is full of shit

[Faster Than Light]

Empking not smoking

See even autocorrect doesn't like his play

[Faster Than Light]

Of course if there's still a roleblocker alive or strongman having multiple shots left, you're going to get framed. So yeah I hope emp is the roleblocker

Then we solve this mystery once and for all

[mlearn2]

Working my way through:

Raging Bull (3) - Number_0ne, Remilia Scarlet, Faster Than Light

The only one on that wagon not confirmed as town is you (unless you've somehow been confirmed, but I haven't gotten far enough in the thread to find that out yet), and you're the one now not unvoting after I asked you to. Keep that in mind going forward.

[Faster Than Light]

That's pretty townie

[mlearn2]

I also don't like Insidious huge scum-list on Page 4.

[Faster Than Light]

Actually only slightly townie

Good start

[mlearn2]

Insidious also constantly edits his posts. And after that huge scum list he voted Cheery.

[mlearn2]

Also, "FTL, why do you think, purely from my reads, that I'm newbtown?"

That seems pretty defensive after one question.

[mlearn2]

[Sorry for the triple post]

That was Insidious responding to Faster Than Light

[Faster Than Light]

Also, "FTL, why do you think, purely from my reads, that I'm newbtown?"

That seems pretty defensive after one question.

Why would he be defensive if I'm calling him town?

[mlearn2]

I also see a connection between Blue Yoshi and formerfish. The guy who played blue yoshi called formerfish on flip-flopping, and they are both still alive and both on empking. empking also looks bad based on his Cheery vote at this point. Could be a bus if empking is scum.

Again, I'm working through this and posting my thoughts as I go, so I don't know how the game has played out.

Also to FTL: I can't tell you why he would do the things he does. It just seemed like a defensive reaction from something innocent.

[Formerfish]

When did i flip flop?

[mlearn2]

"Wh00p
Remi Town
Wh00p
At least you're out of the way"

-thenewearth (blue yoshi)

Odd thing to say. How can you clear a guy so quickly into the game?

Formerfish, you didn't flipflop. dwsnsl5 (yoshi) called tans (you) on flipflopping. I just used your name since you're his player now.