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Post Post #1041 (isolation #200) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:01 am

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btw @Muffin, why is Kagami a 'weaker' townread?
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #201) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:05 am

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In post 1043, SXTLHGaiden wrote:Gaiden was promised a ns going all kuribo on me.
I haven't seen it yet.
I want to feel the rage.
And this prevents you from doing stuff why?
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #202) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:14 am

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Muffin im not asking why you're townreading her, im asking why it's a "weak" townread.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #203) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:20 am

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thanks for linking that bork, that clears off my paranoia of muffin and now im p.sure he's town here.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #204) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:25 am

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His arguments with you are pretty similar to his arguments he threw at Nacho, also the way he's dealing with ppl here all the "You must be out of your mind if you think this is my scum game" and "I really can't see why you don't see me being obvtown here" among others and his tone seems really similar to that game, in Land of Fantasy he kept mostly deflecting attacks rather than engaging while here he's been engaging with you and me. I don't think this is similar to Land of Fantasy it looks more similar to that game you linked.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #205) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:40 am

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Sooo let's see.

People I'm townreading
Lily - Pretty much questioning eveyrone and open to questions, don't think she's scum.
zMuffinMan - Thanks borky <3, play is more similar to nati's game than Land of Fantasy.
notscience - responded to the reach out, and is trying to swallow the paranoia, other than that, pretty obvtown ns.
Kagami - Liked her early miller claim because one of my abilities is a day cop scan so... yeah.
borkjerfkin - Seems like he wants to figure out where muffin is coming from, tho it's a weaker read.
GuyInFreezer - His thought process seems to go through a natural and genuine trajectory, unless GiF has learned to manipulate this i think he's town.

Scum Reads:
Varsoon - Will be sorted tomorrow anyways.
Raging Bull - His play reminds me a lot of mismatched, where he tried to deflect onto minor details and avoided the big picture when I attacked him (a.k.a the speed of Dake's wagon as opposed to me scumhunting within the wagon), Would move my vote here but Gaiden's unvote left me with uneasy feelings.
vezokpiraka - Because scum reading the IC is what cool kids do these days... in all seriousness if he wasn't IC i'd be all over him already.

Left Overs:
Gaiden - I can't really tell what the heck is going with this guy. At first I thought he was pretty town, but his latest posts are really compelling me, specially the note about wanting ns to go kuriboh on him.
Feirei - This guy's been floating around throwing townreads here and there, but no questioning or direct engaging, tho he's open to questions so that's a plus.
pieguy - Sometimes i see town pie, sometimes i see scum pie, i'm really lost here, he seemed to suspect RB but was ok with Gaiden's unvote?
Bitmap - Nothing... his ISO is full of nothing and now he's away for 4 days, lovely.
thenewearth - I liked his entrance, but i'm being wary... there's some sort of vibe on his posts as if he already knew my alignment beforehand.

Not too bad, I think i'm getting somewhere.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #206) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:43 am

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Actually i probably should move RB to left overs, but idk... all about RB is giving me uneasy feelings...
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #207) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:28 pm

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In post 1091, vezokpiraka wrote:Also read the game with scum NS. Same type of posting as here. Same non-committal posts. I am not seeing town NS here. If someone has a lot of experience with him please point out what is a town thing he does and provide examples because I'm really only seeing scum NS.
Scum NS lurks and scumhunts.

Town NS is more active and townhunts.
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #208) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:15 am

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Happy Birthday vezok!

There's something bothering me about pie's latest posts... but what's worse is that i can't remember any scum game where he used that tone either, i've... just never seen pie use that tone ever, so it's confusing me :(
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #209) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:15 am

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RB are you avoiding pieguy's questions or something.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #210) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:17 am

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Unvote
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FoS: pieguy
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #211) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:19 am

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I don't know this pieguy doesnt feel like the "HOLY SHIT I FOUND SCUM LYNCH HIM" kind of pieguy, it's giving me weird feelings all over the place, it could be because it's a large, but i don't wanna leave any stone unturned, RB's also ignoring pie's questions, and it doesn't look like it's pinging pie's radar like when I ignore his questions =/
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #212) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:51 am

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In post 1109, pieguyn wrote:wait, where'd RB ignore my questions? I don't remember that
He dodged commenting on the daycop thing.
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #213) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:10 pm

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You didn't touch in the day cop subject, considering i can't fake spellcards or ability uses due to the rules the ability is legit, so if you think i'm scum then you must think there must be a reason for me to have that ability, but you avoided touching that subject, besides I don't remember you voting me while the whole thing happened.
I have another question tho, has your read on me changed, or do you still think i'm scum for the pseudovote with awkward reasoning.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #214) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:16 pm

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You dodged what i wanted to know again. But since we're into that subject, i did indeed make up a reason to pseudovote you just to see if Gaiden would follow me, because he expressed interest in voting you before, I kind of wanted to get a clearer idea of your alignment during the whole thing but the discussion went elsewhere, I kinda wanted to get a town reason from you so i could pseudovote elsewhere and see if Gaiden would continue following or stay but i couldnt shake the feeling that you kept going offtrack again just like in mismatched, and kept blaming me for Gaiden's vote, so I decided to just ask Gaiden about it myself because you wouldn't cooperate.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #215) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:01 pm

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So like... where did everyone go?
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #216) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:02 am

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In post 1155, vezokpiraka wrote:Let's do something.
We still have a week till deadline.
Says the person who hasn't done anything.
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #217) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:32 am

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Oh sorry, haven't been paying much attention this weekend.
Why wouldnt it be odd for you when someone suddenly decides to unvote just coz an L-1 (or was it L-2?) when he's supposedly suspecting the person and thinks they are scum.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #218) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:39 am

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Not sure, like it feels that if Gaiden is scum he wanted to jump off wagon to not be accused of a mislynch.
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #219) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:23 pm

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In post 1176, pieguyn wrote:I'm p sure this works regardless of RB's alignment. if they're both scum then Gaiden would be trying to derail the RB wagon. do you disagree?
I guess so, considering how powerful his role is.
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #220) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:53 am

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Calm down ns, at least vezok is not Jaquen, but I do want him to pressure people and ask questions and engage, etc.
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #221) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:22 am

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So wait, RB wants Feirei to ask questions directed at other people? what?
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #222) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:08 pm

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Unvote
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I really don't know where else to go at this point.
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #223) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:41 pm

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Sorry, but you got yourself into that one.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #224) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:41 pm

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it's my scumday not my birthday, the cake says "Happy scumday!" that means it's the day i joined MS.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #225) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:57 pm

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It was a reference to this:
In post 1227, Raging Bull wrote:Kinda gay that i cannot unvote now.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #226) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:10 pm

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Welcome back pieguy how was your vacation!
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #227) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:29 pm

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Pretty similar except with Feirei instead of TNE.
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #228) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:47 pm

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In post 1242, pieguyn wrote:explain TNE town plz. bc I don't get the feeling he's trying to do anything this game and afaik he's usually more confrontational than this. and why Feirei?
Because i got no read on Feirei so PoE. TNE is mostly gut, because his walls seemed like he wanted to get stuff done, but i haven't liked much some of his latest posts.... meh idk really.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #229) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:19 pm

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I only liked his first set of posts, afterwards idk what became of him... but bitmap promised content went V/LA supposedly until monday, we're at Thursday and still no sign of him.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #230) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:09 pm

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Varsoon: Doing nothing, but he will be sorted soon enough anyway
Gaiden: He hasn't participated much after everything got more calm about him, yet he only comes when ppl are suspecting him.
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #231) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:43 am

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In post 1275, VictorDeAngelo wrote:@Sakura - Why did you cop Varsoon?
Because i couldn't figure out his alignment so I decided to let the mod tell me instead.
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #232) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:34 am

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In post 1295, Bitmap wrote:Also done reading.
If this is true how come you haven't noticed that Feirei was replaced by Victor, also do you really want your vote to be stuck on Feirei.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #233) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:35 am

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In post 1296, Bitmap wrote:Alright sorry guys, I really derped this game by being away for too long. If you want, I can be mafia bait for tonight.
Also this comes as extremely fake, if you're being derp there's no way that mafia will kill you and instead you'll attract things like vigs and cops to you.
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #234) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:16 pm

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What, 2 alignment inspect roles owo im expecting naive or paranoid tho rather insane or sane.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #235) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:38 pm

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Idk, what i feel worse about, the fact that bitmap claimed an ability that I have, or the fact that he never saw a problem with my ability during his read through, or the fact that no one else seems to have a problem with that.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #236) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:13 pm

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In post 1314, VictorDeAngelo wrote:@Sakura - I missed where Bitmap CC'ed you, could you point to the relevent posts, cheers.
All in the last 2 pages lol.
He didn't exactly CC but he doesn't have an issue with my ability (which we know isnt fake because faking abilities/spellcards is against the rules), and no one else seems to have an issue with 2 cops on town side (tho technically im not a cop, but i have an unlimited use ability that tells me the alignment)
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #237) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:44 pm

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Mine specifies that mine comes as some sort of wish that I make upon the mallet. Both our claims seems decent enough, but yours still make me feel uneasy for some reason =/
It was specified in your role PM that you don't know your sanity? or was just your spellcard that mentioned anything about sanity.
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Post Post #1321 (isolation #238) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:52 pm

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Ok, then i'm probably sane then, since nowhere in my role PM even hints to the possibility of another sanity, i think you better go off bork's plan tho.
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for now may move to TNE, I want everyone's input on your claim and my ability first.
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #239) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 pm

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And before I go to sleep I got a couple of crazy ideas.
1) You could target the same person i'm inspecting to check tomorrow whether we get different results or not.
2) You should probably not use both your spellcard and your ability tonight in case you're allowed, heck you should probably not use your spellcard tonight, if scum has some means of roleblocking you they will do so and you will end up wasting both, is better to keep scum guessing when you'll use your spellcard.
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Post Post #1336 (isolation #240) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:22 am

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In post 1333, GuyInFreezer wrote:Gaiden claimed spellcard cop
Bitmap claimed doublecop
Sakura claimed delayed daycop

That's a hell lot of invetigative roles in this game
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Post Post #1337 (isolation #241) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:25 am

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From your post.

Gaiden claimed spellcard cop <- Is useful for scum too
Bitmap claimed doublecop <- Is a nice fake claim for scum, however i doubt with my ability scum would've been given a fake claim like this, it feels really trolly from FG to give them a claim that can be countered
Sakura claimed delayed daycop <- It's been proven at least that I have that ability. I never claimed to be exactly a daycop, and all of my posts reference to being "one of my abilities"
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Post Post #1342 (isolation #242) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:18 am

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Unvote
Vote: Gaiden

I think this is a better place to be on
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Post Post #1343 (isolation #243) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:22 am

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Gaiden, you've obviously been reading but didnt unvote nor raised a question wrt Bitmap's claim, why?
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Post Post #1346 (isolation #244) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:56 am

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In post 1344, SXTLHGaiden wrote:what do you mean "didn't unvote"
I haven't been voting for a while.
Oh nevermind i thought you voted him when you asked me if you wanted to lynch bitmap.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #245) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:37 am

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@pie: I agree with pretty much that whole read list except i'd rank muffin and GiF higher and Gaiden as scum, tho Gaiden is mostly a gut thing at this point.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #246) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:44 am

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Vote: TNE

May move to Gaiden if that wagon takes off. Not liking any other wagon for today.
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #247) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:14 pm

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Weaker? he can get flavor + role name. Like if he had scanned the me from the previous touhou upick he would've gotten Sanae Town Doctor vigilante racecop neighbor, that's what i'm getting.
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #248) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:14 pm

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Well maybe without the town part since it's more of a rolecop than alignment scan.
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #249) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:59 pm

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Maybe you should open your own ISO.
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #250) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:00 pm

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I mean even you realized it because you commented on it here:
In post 1255, Varsoon wrote:Ugh, apparently a laidback, call-it-as-it-comes, no fervor approach does not work for me.
I keep getting scum-read for doing nothing, when the things I do just lack the gravity, noise, and broad strokes that they did in previous games of mine.
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Post Post #1372 (isolation #251) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:20 pm

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Thank god that's over and i can finally link it: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=43716
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #252) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:36 pm

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so much facepalm
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #253) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:36 pm

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Like i cant believe you arent seeing muffin's point.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #254) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:36 pm

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And your reply to it was even worse than replying to his point.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #255) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:05 am

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In post 1429, notscience wrote:What happened to the RB wagon
It became dust.
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #256) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:34 pm

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hey notscience, muffin, bork any chance i can get you to move your votes to TNE? we're running out of time.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #257) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:20 pm

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In post 1450, GuyInFreezer wrote:I say we test the validity of my flavor knowledge today :P
So are you suggesting mass flavor claim or what.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #258) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:34 pm

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In post 1454, Varsoon wrote:@GiF: In case I die (likely chance tonight), you could drop some of my flavor info and see if it matches up.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #259) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:38 pm

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Oh right, i forgot scum would rather kill scum person than the cop inspecting them tomorrow.
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #260) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:53 pm

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but 18th april was so long ago.
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #261) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:44 am

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Not liking RB's latest posts, he's blaming Gaiden for deadline hammering which is what.... anyone would do to avoid a no lynch?
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #262) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:03 am

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Muffin, i think I want to know what you do to ppl targetting you, bork put a list of possible inspect targets including you for bitmap, and you said that it was a bad idea to target you with night actions, at the very least i would like to know if it's possible bitmap died because of that because then that would point to pie as the scum kill.

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Post Post #1498 (isolation #263) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:24 am

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Well then what i want to know is if anyone still alive can be responsible for either of the kills (PGO/Vig), I have a reason for asking this other than just figuring out which one was more likely to be a town kill either by retaliation or willingly, but i'll talk about that after.
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #264) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:42 am

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Tinfoil Theory: Scum killed bitmap because they don't have a roleblocker, otherwise they'd have killed me and blocked bitmap.
Tinfoil Theory 2: Scum killed pie, which would make me look heavily at GiF as he knows how pie can get very scary for scum if let alive longer than a game day (RB perhaps too).

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Post Post #1505 (isolation #265) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:52 am

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No actually i'm thinking is more likely scum wouldn't have let bitmap live as they don't know who he was scanning while they know who i was scanning very well and probably saw a conf town Varsoon as a non threat, which means im probably dead tonight. the pieguy kill still makes no sense to me and i highly doubt a Vig did it...
Tinfoil Theory 3: Scum probably has a PGO just like in touhou upick 1 and bitmap scanned that.
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #266) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:52 am

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but then that would point to pie being killed by scum again
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #267) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:30 am

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So that's what GiF meant yesterday.
pseudovote: Gaiden.

And now that you mention that i do wonder what you think about my role and pieguy's.
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #268) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:34 am

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Also GiF do tell what TNE's role was.
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #269) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:39 am

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WTF.
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #270) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:56 am

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This game is making my head spin...
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #271) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:06 am

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That's not what Kagami's saying GiF, dont dodge the issue.
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #272) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:21 am

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In post 1554, borkjerfkin wrote:Pedit: and I am verifying it publicly.
Then why didnt u ask about the specific post and asked questions whether it was correctly formatted for an un-targeted spellcard.
If it was targeted i don't see it as bad from GiF, i can tell you that at least nothing bad happened to me during yesterday nor the night.
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #273) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:47 am

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In post 1584, notscience wrote:
In post 1493, Sakura Hana wrote:Not liking RB's latest posts, he's blaming Gaiden for deadline hammering which is what.... anyone would do to avoid a no lynch?
Also Varsoon is town.
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Are going to chat

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Post Post #1604 (isolation #274) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:05 am

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If i take a guess, ns was neighbors with pie, and he knows what pie was doing tonight, and it implicates varsoon, or something like that.
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #275) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:06 am

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I think that makes sense... OH I GET IT!
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #276) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:12 am

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Oh wait, nvm he's 1v1ing GiF so pieguy's probably implicated by GiF unless it's ns being stubborn about his reads again, i don't get why he thinks Varsoon's a godfather, but there was a time when he said that in a newbie game where a cop had an inno on me =/

I relly don't get what you're trying to mean here ns.
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Post Post #1609 (isolation #277) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:54 am

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pie had suspicions on GiF before the day ended, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities. I totally forgot to take that in mind earlier and GiF was PGO scum on the previous game...
However i dont think PGO fits Aya to begin with, I really wanna chat with ns as he requested, that way maybe he can show me what he's seeing.
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #278) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:44 pm

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So pie was hated and GiF lied about it? was the word "Hated" included in your role name?
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #279) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:46 pm

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Actualy ns that makes sense. Did you guys have daychat? do you think it's likely scum does? because I have an interesting theory that goes along with your scum team.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #280) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:37 pm

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In post 1616, notscience wrote:Pie's role had two parts, one where he passively received information and one where he had to target someone for information.
That does seem odd, my role name is pretty specific as to what i can do and the voteless does appear on my role name too.
Tinfoil theory: Gaiden used a spellcard to check pie's role before pie died from their nightkill, he has told GiF the result via scum day chat and GiF posted that, then Gaiden made some sort of BS about someone breaking his spellcards so he wouldn't be asked about what did he use his spellcard on.
Tinfoil theory 2: Same as above except pie died due to a reaction effect and not a nightkill.
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #281) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:24 pm

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In post 1502, Sakura Hana wrote:Tinfoil Theory 2: Scum killed pie,
which would make me look heavily at GiF
as he knows how pie can get very scary for scum if let alive longer than a game day (RB perhaps too).
Who would've thought...
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Post Post #1629 (isolation #282) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:42 pm

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I know, pie had some thoughts on GiF at the end of D1, unfortunately you can't say that scum knew what pie was planning on doing today (unless they are spying on your neighborhood). I do agree however that if GiF's scum he'd have killed pie. Your case seems pretty good, i'm mostly trying to see what we're doing today to decide what ability i use or if i just do another day alignment scan.

Oh yeah and in case you didn't realize, my spellcard only lasted 1 day phase so im voteless again.
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #283) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:58 am

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Hmm...
notscience how much of a good track do you think you're on with your scumreads?
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #284) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:28 pm

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In post 1690, GuyInFreezer wrote:And the best part is that I can do that twice (2 days).
Oh someone is getting scared i see? you only have ns vote on you and more ppl are bulking on ns, why did you feel the need to out that you can counter him?
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Post Post #1707 (isolation #285) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:33 pm

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ns, keep 1v1ing GiF if he pulls any shenanigans i'll end his life.
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #286) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:05 pm

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I like how you called it a lolmallet.
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #287) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:44 pm

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Just call me Sukuna lol and yeah i figured Kagami was Kogasa from miles away.
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #288) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:45 pm

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to be exact i have alignment scans, kills and protects, tho i can only use one per full day phase (day/night) alignment scan is delayed until next day, and protect happens at night. All X-Shot not going to say how many but i'll say that i still got more alignment scans (I also have to state it in the thread). The reason i'm saying this is because at this point i think going for an alignment scan when there's even greater chance of scum killing me to silence me before i out my result is high, so i'm wondering about what to do wrt the other 2, my original plan was to protect ns, but a GiF kill if he tries to live by making himself unlynchable or unvotable or whatever he says he can do is another good option, if he's town he can town it up and not get lynched without the need to use spellcards.
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #289) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:08 pm

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In post 1724, notscience wrote:protect me pls <3
I wanna wait because i might need to kill GiF, and as I said i can only do either protect or kill (or alignment inspect but if i die there's no info there).

Here's where i'm standing at regarding my abilities:
Scan: If i die it's pointless.
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #290) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:12 pm

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You WILL know... because i have to post it in thread.
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #291) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:43 pm

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Mokou i guess.
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Post Post #1737 (isolation #292) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:29 pm

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In post 1736, zMuffinMan wrote:and using the word "lunatic"
Those lunatic red eyes....
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #293) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:55 pm

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So basically you didn't choose your investigative spellcard is what i'm getting?

Well anyway, ns what do you think about bork saying that he can protect me from death if i protect him too.
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Post Post #1747 (isolation #294) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:56 pm

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And i'm not asking as a "Does it fit flavor" or anything, but considering you're the only person i trust enough to protect, i wanna know your opinion.
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Post Post #1766 (isolation #295) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:55 am

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mfw the 2 confirmed towns are pushing my strongest townread. Ugh this game is giving me a headache, i'm starting to wish I had shot Varsoon instead of scanning him.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #296) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:06 am

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I think we should lynch Victor tbh.
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Post Post #1824 (isolation #297) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:44 am

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didn't GiF claim using a commuting spellcard anyway. Why did pie even try to target him?
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #298) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:44 am

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And if you were commuting how the fuck did you rolecop someone?
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #299) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:20 pm

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Now you're just making things up, if this is true, i'm going to kill you on the sole basis of you not claiming this earlier.
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #300) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:30 pm

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:facepalm:
This is what happens when you make awkward claims like that as scum on multiple games.
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #301) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:36 pm

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Isn't that exactly what notscience has been telling you. That the pie kill was scum motivated.
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #302) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:41 pm

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In post 1842, GuyInFreezer wrote:And because pie is scum motivated kill I'm 98% confirmed town.
Hasn't notscience been arguing the contrary?
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Post Post #1848 (isolation #303) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:52 pm

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Ok here's 2 plans:
Me and bork use that thing so that we're both protected and you scan either of us since we will live due to protecting each other and we can confirm it tomorrow, if scum kills you then they are eliminating a mislynch that ns is wrong on anyway.
Other option i protect someone (most probably ns) and you scan that person.

That should settle any paranoia ns has about your rolecop.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #304) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:19 pm

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Why almost?
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #305) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:47 pm

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Didn't Gaiden say that his rolecop card was day activated? Do you think he lied about that in preparation for something like this?
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #306) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:31 am

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So muffin, what does that do?
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #307) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:34 am

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Now i'm curious lol, but i won't question further if you guys wanna keep it secret.
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Post Post #1918 (isolation #308) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:38 am

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I figured you were trolling GiF, but you not mentioning what it did made me think it wasn't a troll spellcard but something useful for GiF so i decided to not ask.
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #309) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:01 am

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duplex barrier huh, is that to protect him?
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #310) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 1929, GuyInFreezer wrote:Because calling me scum in this game is equivalent of dividing 11037 by 0 and hoping it works.
GiF Scum.

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Post Post #1932 (isolation #311) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:29 am

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Post Post #1937 (isolation #312) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:49 am

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In post 1933, notscience wrote:I'm assuming you're townreading
pieslot
rbslot given how you jumped off his wagon earlier

correct?
Not really, RB is a though read tbh, and I always have trouble reading him, i think the one time i tunneled him I actually got lucky: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/190036 (if you wanna read, you can read mostly D2 where i tunneled on him because dead neighbor's reads and was right). My issue with him is how he approached my attack on him, which is similar to the way it happened on that game, he kept pressing on unnecessary stuff instead of my actual points on him, but then Gaiden's unvote gave me weird vibes because i thought he was someone who knew he was town and wanted to take no part in the lynch. Other than that my read on RB's going to null because he didn't do much except get his vote stuck on feirei and I haven't revisited him since then.
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Post Post #1939 (isolation #313) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:16 am

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Not sure what kind of indignation he means, what do you think of these posts:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2953528
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2953538
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2955520
Hint: He was scum in that.
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Post Post #1941 (isolation #314) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:31 am

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Well, I didn't really see anything =/

I think maybe i should just trust pieguy, he's probably better at reading RB than I am.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #315) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:20 pm

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He has his reasons, im surprised he didnt do this earlier tho.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #316) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:05 pm

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Ok now im confused @_@
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #317) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:50 am

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In post 2015, FakeGod wrote:
Magua replaces Axxle.
Wasn't GiF the one that replaced out?
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Post Post #2021 (isolation #318) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:22 am

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Hmm i missed that.
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #319) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:38 pm

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hmm...
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #320) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:39 pm

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Except notscience is playing to his town meta, vezok is just having a playstyle clash.
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Post Post #2037 (isolation #321) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:41 pm

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Except notscience can't replicate his town meta as scum even if he wanted to.
Also other tidbits of info, I got an inno on Varsoon D1 (Delayed into D2).
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Post Post #2038 (isolation #322) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:42 pm

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And the only reason GiF is voting notscience is to keep being unvotable, but you know that GiF didn't even want to vote notscience.
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #323) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:52 pm

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Everyone is capable of everything yes, but notscience so far has shown incapability of replicating certain aspects of his town game into his scum game.
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Post Post #2042 (isolation #324) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:00 pm

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So? what if i want to believe until he manages to fool me with it?
Also do you really think there's 1 scum among the 4 neighbors?
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #325) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:26 pm

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Well notscience has claimed Masons with a VT as VT before so i don't see how that's surprising.
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Post Post #2045 (isolation #326) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:27 pm

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And you were in that game too SOOOOO.... yeah.
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #327) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:43 pm

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In post 2046, Varsoon wrote:So he could emulate that part of his town meta consciously but not what other bits?
I don't get what you're getting at here, I just told you he's playing to his town meta, so if he's scum he's emulated his town meta... or the most simple reason that he's playing to his town meta because he's town.
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #328) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:04 pm

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my current scum picks are your neighbor, Magua's slot and maaaaybe GiF's slot.

Also there's a difference with notscience claiming masons with a VT than claiming Masons with a neighbor, so it's not the same thing and is something neighbors do when they are strongly townreading each other to try to draw a night kill towards them. notscience isn't using meta-reliant play to convince me he's town, he's just been fricken playing to his town meta, what part of that don't you get.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #329) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:05 pm

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Also bork's slot has managed to stay in the null for day and a half, so i'm hoping Nacho can fix that.
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #330) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:19 pm

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How did you take 1612 as a masons crumb/claim
He just stated he's hated and that pie was hated too and that both were neighbors
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Post Post #2056 (isolation #331) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:38 pm

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He said pie crumbed being hated, not masons
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #332) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:45 pm

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Which means, you know... he needs 1 less vote to be lynched, which is a suicide ability if he's scum.
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Post Post #2059 (isolation #333) » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:57 pm

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GiF's ability is what making me doubt his.
Now think about notscience being hated scum what reason did he have to state he was hated first thing D2 as opposed to... you know doing the townie thing and stating it first thing D2 which means he'll have to die before LyLo before scum takes advantage of it?
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Post Post #2066 (isolation #334) » Thu May 01, 2014 3:25 am

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In post 2064, zMuffinMan wrote:the whole "well he could be playing like he's town as scum!" argument from varsoon is pretty awful
Yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that i know he's town due to my inspect i'd have already killed him by now. It's like he's trying to look for reasons to lynch notscience regardless of what notscience is actually doing.
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Post Post #2068 (isolation #335) » Thu May 01, 2014 4:36 am

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In post 2067, Magua wrote:Elaborate on what notscience's town meta is. From this page and the previous, the town-thing seemed to be claiming hated, which is meh. What else?
notscience is much more scared as scum than as town, he rarely provokes people and actually tries to find scum, while as town he finds town and PoE's scum, another thing is that being active is something that notscience hasnt EVER done as scum from what I've seen, he always ends up lurking unless real life stuff then he lurks as either, specially past D1. And he likes engaging with people on 1v1s when he firmly believes them to be scum, from what I see in notscience posts he's firmly believing that GiF is scum and wants to 1v1 him, which GiF rejects because he knows that this is notscience's town meta (or because he knows notscience is town), and instead decides to call it down by making himself unvotable... which for it to work he needs to be voting notscience anyway.
notscience getting paranoid about people is understandable considering he managed to get 2 scum in his townbloc last game I was with him, if I had thought he was scum i wouldn't have attempted to reach out to him, his current push for GiF feels more like a "Let's sheep pie's read on GiF because he's good at reading GiF" than "Let's 1v1 GiF because it makes me look town".
If he was scum why would he even care about pie's read on GiF? he could just have ignored that completely, of course, we have no way of knowing that it actually happened, but pie's posts D1 do seem to hint to that sort of suspicion. He's also questioned my inspect on Varsoon by saying Varsoon's a godfather which is something he does when he truly believes someone is scum and just got thwarted by a cop investigation, as he did in a newbie game where we were both part of as he had a scumread on me and the cop claims innocent on me then he starts calling me Godfather and making snarky comments like "I didn't know there were godfathers in newbie games".
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Post Post #2069 (isolation #336) » Thu May 01, 2014 4:36 am

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Gah that came like rollover text, i'll space it in paragraphs better this time.
In post 2068, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2067, Magua wrote:Elaborate on what notscience's town meta is. From this page and the previous, the town-thing seemed to be claiming hated, which is meh. What else?
notscience is much more scared as scum than as town, he rarely provokes people and actually tries to find scum, while as town he finds town and PoE's scum, another thing is that being active is something that notscience hasnt EVER done as scum from what I've seen, he always ends up lurking unless real life stuff then he lurks as either, specially past D1. And he likes engaging with people on 1v1s when he firmly believes them to be scum, from what I see in notscience posts he's firmly believing that GiF is scum and wants to 1v1 him, which GiF rejects because he knows that this is notscience's town meta (or because he knows notscience is town), and instead decides to call it down by making himself unvotable... which for it to work he needs to be voting notscience anyway.

notscience getting paranoid about people is understandable considering he managed to get 2 scum in his townbloc last game I was with him, if I had thought he was scum i wouldn't have attempted to reach out to him, his current push for GiF feels more like a "Let's sheep pie's read on GiF because he's good at reading GiF" than "Let's 1v1 GiF because it makes me look town".

If he was scum why would he even care about pie's read on GiF? he could just have ignored that completely, of course, we have no way of knowing that it actually happened, but pie's posts D1 do seem to hint to that sort of suspicion. He's also questioned my inspect on Varsoon by saying Varsoon's a godfather which is something he does when he truly believes someone is scum and just got thwarted by a cop investigation, as he did in a newbie game where we were both part of as he had a scumread on me and the cop claims innocent on me then he starts calling me Godfather and making snarky comments like "I didn't know there were godfathers in newbie games".

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Post Post #2072 (isolation #337) » Thu May 01, 2014 9:12 am

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In post 2071, Varsoon wrote:@Sakura: I guess I see what your'e saying, but I just can't rely on meta in that way. It's too exploitable.
The thing that's wrong with your argument is that "If he can do that as town he can certainly do that as scum" if such a thing was true then there wouldnt ever be a way to townread someone other than cop innos and ICs, I could pretty easily go ahead and say "You may be playing to your town meta to fool me" but i've got an inno on you, which means I know you're town. Until notscience proves to me that he's capable of emulating his town meta, then his town meta is still solid, until then take a bit of occam's razor and think the simplest solution of notscience playing to his town meta isn't because he's emulating his town meta as scum, but simply, because he's town.
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #338) » Thu May 01, 2014 9:48 am

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In post 2073, Varsoon wrote:But I'm arguing that his play here, independent of other games, is scummy.
So if i find your play in every game scummy despite knowing is your town meta should I lynch you on every game then?
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #339) » Thu May 01, 2014 9:59 am

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In post 2075, Varsoon wrote:Yes.
And guys, this is the reason why we shouldn't listen to Varsoon.

I've already made my town case on notscience, anyone that wants to disprove it with anything else other than "meta is dumb" feel free to, if you push it without trying to disprove it i'll take it as a scum claim and i'll kill you right on the spot. We can start with Victor who is the only non conf town in the wagon (Not counting GiF because his vote isn't supposed to be there)
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #340) » Fri May 02, 2014 3:12 am

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In post 2082, Varsoon wrote:Sakura: You keep saying you would shoot someone (mostly me, :x), but can you actually do that? Like, is that an actual, literal thing you can do?
Also, plans for your copping ability? I assume this time you're not going to telegraph it unless you absolutely have to. I forgot how the daycard worked. :p
In post 1722, Sakura Hana wrote:to be exact i have alignment scans, kills and protects, tho i can only use one per full day phase (day/night) alignment scan is delayed until next day, and protect happens at night. All X-Shot not going to say how many but i'll say that i still got more alignment scans (I also have to state it in the thread). The reason i'm saying this is because at this point i think going for an alignment scan when there's even greater chance of scum killing me to silence me before i out my result is high, so i'm wondering about what to do wrt the other 2, my original plan was to protect ns, but a GiF kill if he tries to live by making himself unlynchable or unvotable or whatever he says he can do is another good option, if he's town he can town it up and not get lynched without the need to use spellcards.
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In post 1724, notscience wrote:protect me pls <3
I wanna wait because i might need to kill GiF, and as I said i can only do either protect or kill (or alignment inspect but if i die there's no info there).

Here's where i'm standing at regarding my abilities:
Scan: If i die it's pointless.
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Post Post #2095 (isolation #341) » Fri May 02, 2014 3:47 am

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Well i didnt want to use my kill so soon for reasons that you will see, but then again... i never said it was a daykill i always mentioned it as a kill.

Miracle Mallet - Night kill: VictorDeAngelo


Varsoon you better enjoy your last momments with your neighbor.
Btw this kill can't be stopped unless im lynched today, and i still got more shots for it.

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Post Post #2109 (isolation #342) » Fri May 02, 2014 4:03 pm

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In post 2108, Magua wrote:Which unfortunately leaves this huge swathe of people whom I have no opinion on -- GiF, notscience, SXTL, Pim, zMM, Kagami, Nacho, and
vezok
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vezok is innocent child.
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Post Post #2111 (isolation #343) » Fri May 02, 2014 5:17 pm

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In post 2108, Magua wrote:Pondering things through, Sakura and Varsoon are the only people that I actually like as town right now.
Btw i have a cop inno on Varsoon so this fits.
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #344) » Fri May 02, 2014 6:52 pm

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In post 2113, VictorDeAngelo wrote:And I hardly value the opionion who just vigged me
you didn't seem to value my opinion before the vig shot, so why point this out?
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #345) » Fri May 02, 2014 7:37 pm

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In post 2115, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I don't recall saying I didn't value your opinion before the vigshot.
And i don't recall hearing your opinion on my towncase either.
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #346) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:05 am

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In post 2129, FakeGod wrote:
Malakittens replaces notscience.
See even mala agrees with me that notscience is town.
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #347) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:10 am

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No, mala hates scum roles, i dont think she'd have replaced into notscience's slot if she read it was a scum slot.
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #348) » Sat May 03, 2014 4:16 am

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In post 2133, VictorDeAngelo wrote:You know what, I'm just going ignore Sakura from this point on.
Yeah ignore me, because that's obviously a very pro-town thing to do... oh right you aren't town, oh well you're going to be dead tonight anyway.
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #349) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:49 am

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In post 2137, VictorDeAngelo wrote:How would GiF have known that Feirei/Varsoon were a neighbourhood as either alignment.
In post 587, GuyInFreezer wrote:you/feirei - I actually expected a neighbor claim eventually and that's the reason I think one of you is scum. I'm leaning on you more because I don't remember anything special you did bit hey. It's all gonna be cleared tomorrow.
Apparently this post happened before the one you quoted.
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #350) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:53 am

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Considering you don't seem to know anything about touhou then let me instruct you.
GiF as well as many others here know a lot about touhou flavor
GiF knew pre-game everyone's flavor character, and obviously knew Varsoon was Cirno and you were Letty.
Anyone that knows those 2 character will immediately think both are in a neighborhood as a guess.
And it also just so happens:
In post 586, Varsoon wrote:We've got a neighborhood together, actually. We've got abilities we're both immune to.
That this post happened before the one you quoted.
So you clearly haven't actually read anything in the thread and you're just tunnel visioning on notscience because you're scum aiming for a mislynch.

P-Edit: The post you quoted is 663.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #351) » Sat May 03, 2014 8:03 am

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The 1v1 is just notscience being notscience (Tho i've never ever seen notscience engage in a 1v1 as scum)
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Post Post #2152 (isolation #352) » Sat May 03, 2014 8:11 am

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In post 2151, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 2149, Sakura Hana wrote:The 1v1 is just notscience being notscience (Tho i've never ever seen notscience engage in a 1v1 as scum)
Was I asking you Sakura?
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Post Post #2154 (isolation #353) » Sat May 03, 2014 8:18 am

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What I'm doing is defending notscience's town meta from scum like you that come and try to disprove it.
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Post Post #2190 (isolation #354) » Sat May 03, 2014 7:04 pm

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Oh so we're finally discussing something that isn't notscience?
I agree about lynching Pim btw.
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #355) » Sat May 03, 2014 7:52 pm

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There are few ways to interfere with all of my abilities but one, but of course i'm not gonna let you know how (aside from me dying that is), it's more fun to watch scum run like headless chicken.
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #356) » Sat May 03, 2014 9:03 pm

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He's gonna flip scum anyway so he had to die eventually.
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #357) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:40 am

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In post 2305, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Magua, have you read my comments towards the notscience/Malakittens slot?
How you read
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comments towards the notscience slot? Because you clearly didn't think my town case on him was good enough and continued to push him, there's only scum motivation on discrediting someone's town case on another slot, vezok and Varsoon are just scum with a town role PM.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #358) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:03 am

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In post 2308, VictorDeAngelo wrote:And let's face facts, the scum case on ns is far better than any towncase you made and deep down I think you know it.
Not really, because knowing it's notscience's town meta outweighs pretty much all your points.
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Post Post #2310 (isolation #359) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:06 am

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Also from all people townreading notscience i'm the only one that has bothered to make a town case on him, why are you singling me out then? Oh right, you're scum so you have to.
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #360) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:19 am

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In post 2311, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Nice mudslinging, but I never singled you out.
Well you're apparently townreading Nacho and Muffin who are also townreading notscience, and muffin in specific has agreed with me in multiple parts, why do you then focus on me instead?
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Post Post #2314 (isolation #361) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:27 am

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Also it's cute that if you think i'm scum you aren't trying to lynch me, remember I did say the only way to make you live through the night is by lynching me?

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Post Post #2316 (isolation #362) » Wed May 07, 2014 5:38 am

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My scumread on you comes from the fact that i don't like how you're handwaving my town case on notscience based on "oh he's meta aware" and dismissing how much i know that even if he's meta aware it's pretty hard (read: impossible) for him to fake it, while this was happening another game where i was in hydra with him was also ongoing and we were scum and he pretty much left me alone in the hydra despite me calling for him for help on the scum qt, while he kept posting here and being active, so it's clear that this is his town game and he STILL can't fake it as scum.

Link for reference: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44023

Varsoon was also there so i'm astonished as why he thinks this is scum notscience.
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Post Post #2320 (isolation #363) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:10 am

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In post 2319, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I bet you thought that my spate of inactivity prior the spellcard might mean I would quietly into the night. Suck for you to be wrong I guess.
Why do you think my point on you is that you were inactive? my point is you that you are blatantly wrong about notscience despite me mentioning it multiple times, but now you're just pot shotting coz you dont know what else to push and i'll just think this is just an attempt at trying to piss me off than actual scum hunting.
In post 2319, VictorDeAngelo wrote:For instance, trying to pass off your own use of the word "chucklefuck" as a towntell shows that notscience is trying to use people's knowledge of his meta to force a townread.
This is the first time i've seen notscience use that word and i'm not sure why you even bring it up, guess you're running out of ammo huh.
In post 2319, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Furthermore, assuming notscience is not a complete idiot, he would be trying to improve his own meta to stop getting easily found as scum. I can't be bothered to track down the post but he even went as far as to point out that scum!ns is know for not actively participating in games. The idea that he is incapable of using such knowledge to adapt is, well, frankly insulting to notscience's intelligence. If I was aware of such an obvious scumtell I would have no trouble fixing it.
Emotions form a part of some people's meta, emotion is hard to fake and the fact that notscience hates playing as scum and has shown as much on both games i've played with him as scum (one as a different player and another as hydra), once again using this fact as just because he's self-aware but not showing me any scum games where he's faked as such is laughable, if he hasn't faked it then it means he might as well be town here.
In post 2319, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Me and my neighbour aren't the only ones who have dismissed your meta case IIRC. But I guess by this time toMorrow you'll start mentioning Varsoon's name and the word godfather.
What makes you think i'd think Varsoon is a godfather? He might as well just be town who hates using meta and sux at acknoledging meta cases just because he doesn't like being wrong.
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #364) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:33 am

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In post 2321, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Curious that you never made that assumption about me.
Because i don't have a cop inno on you. Your attempts of trying to bait me into making the same statement as notscience is noted.
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Post Post #2323 (isolation #365) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:34 am

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In post 2321, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Like I said there has to be a first time for everything.
Why do you think this is the first time considering he's been meta aware for like half a year and still unable to replicate it?
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Post Post #2324 (isolation #366) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:35 am

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In post 2321, VictorDeAngelo wrote:And considering I'm scumreading you, why would expect me to listen to you anyway? Your logic here would be bewildering if you weren't scum.
Yet you are listening to me and replying to my posts anyway and you still aren't voting me nor notscience so... then?
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #367) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:36 am

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Unless this is an error i guess:
In post 2300, FakeGod wrote:Malakittens [2] - vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #368) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:41 am

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In post 2326, VictorDeAngelo wrote:How do you know it's been meta aware for so long?
He mentions it in every single game, for a long while.
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #369) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:43 am

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In post 2326, VictorDeAngelo wrote:h yeah, Mala begged me for a chance a while ago and never followed up. Well I guess I might as well....
I don't get your logic

>You think i'm scum
>You are dying tonight
>Your only hope of surviving tonight is to lynch me
>You rather lynch mala over me.
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #370) » Wed May 07, 2014 6:59 am

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In post 2330, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Better question, why would you assume I would know any of this?
Because apparently you know notscience so much that you know he's perfectly capable of faking this and is in fact scum.
In post 2330, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Simple, I don't need to survive to win. And I believe that any attempt to get you lynched today could be dismissed as scum!Victor trying to save his own skin. Tomorrow I will be townconfirmed and you'll be in trouble then.
If you really believe im going to flip scum why is it bad that i do?
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There, i dare you to get me lynched. I'm even wasting a spellcard to help you do so, and a spellcard I was planning to surprise scum with on LyLo.

Hey town if you think Victor is town then lynch me, it's the only way for him to survive the night and i'm already out of any useful spellcards plus being voteless won't help town anyway.
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #371) » Wed May 07, 2014 7:04 am

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There now you can lynch me no probs, go ahead, i dare you.
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Post Post #2342 (isolation #372) » Wed May 07, 2014 11:55 am

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In post 2338, Varsoon wrote:Also, Sakura, can you explain in detail how your vigilante ability works?
Strongman + Strongwilled 1 shot night kill.
I can't be redirected, roleblocked and cant be blocked by protects or bulletproof.

Regarding the full claim i'll only do that if you plan on lynching me today.

Also i didnt realize i could hammer Pim, but i'll only declare intent when you and vezok stop being asses and start playing for town instead of for scum.
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Post Post #2345 (isolation #373) » Wed May 07, 2014 3:28 pm

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then stop lynching obvtown malakittens/notscience and propose something better then.
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Post Post #2346 (isolation #374) » Wed May 07, 2014 3:28 pm

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I put myself on the lynch block for you to save your neighbor, you don't seem to want to.
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Post Post #2353 (isolation #375) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:22 am

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Oh fuck 5 hours? wow

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Post Post #2354 (isolation #376) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:23 am

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Vote: Pim x2

Just in case.
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Post Post #2358 (isolation #377) » Thu May 08, 2014 2:35 am

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In post 2355, VictorDeAngelo wrote:Remember to lynch Sakura tomorrow.
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Agree with this.
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #378) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:35 am

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my face when Varsoon was godfather orz
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #379) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:48 am

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I kept at least asking for a flavor claim, then GiF gave us all of our flavor names.
On a side note, i choose Suzuna because i wanted to try something different. and i actually like being voteless because i usually have a tendency to get random 180 flips on reads that get me lynched, without a vote it's harder to be noticed + the public joat thing, helped a lot getting townread this game, and i'm still surprised i was Vig'd.
Next game i'll probably choose yet something different, looking forward for an upick 3!
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