Newbie 1497 (Game Over)

[Not_Mafia]

That was dorected at Trickster sorry. Phoneposting.

[Tr1ckster]

Beli claim?

[Not_Mafia]

Did you ask Madonna to claim at L-1?

[Belisarius]

Time to start begging for alms, Belisarius

xD I'm probably the only one who's going to get that.

Not going to happen, though. I stand by everything I've said in this thread, and getting mislynched doesn't scare me. Just do me a favour and send some scum to keep me company in the Dead QT as early as you can tomorrow.

[Belisarius]

I'm not claiming without intent to hammer, and I'm heading off to work now. Today I'll have less opportunity to phonepost from work, but I have fewer games to keep up with than I did earlier atm, and this game is currently my #1 priority, so I'll definitely be able to hit this thread once before work and once on each break.

[Thor665]

Consider this intent then - and claim next time you're here.

A final reads post would be nice also.

[Madonna]

Did you ask Madonna to claim at L-1?

I will wait for more players to weigh in before claiming unless the clock is really ticking.

[Tr1ckster]

Did you ask Madonna to claim at L-1?

Oops nope. I forgot. >.<

[Tr1ckster]

Did you ask Madonna to claim at L-1?

I will wait for more players to weigh in before claiming unless the clock is really ticking.

Oh. That's why I didn't ask her too. That makes sense.

[Madonna]

Why are you bargaining for a Madonna lynch so much?

If Tricks flips scum, Madonna's conftown.

I do not think life works that way.

While I am very glad I am not the deer in headlights, this resolves very little between Tr1ckster and I, though this current situation was exactly what I was aiming for earlier when I gave reads:

Belisarius and theelkspeaks are both huge nullreads for me, and I chose my friend because he would understand me best and accept this. theelkspeaks can just as easily been my focus, because yeah, tynn was nice and all, but she did not really give much and for very long. So they and Knell are huge question marks for me, and thus fine to pressure and depending on their output, fine to lynch. The more either of them talks, the more liable I am to look at the other as a candidate.

...

I clearly have stated my bias against Tr1ckster, and yes, even with diminished arguments as he has defended himself well, I take umbrage with his living. This is not a healthy want, I recognize it, and so despite it, I am keeping back from Tr1ckster for now.

So throw that in your tell bucket for me, alongside my active dislike of Tr1ckster.

Does this mean we are getting a good flip from Belisarius? I doubt it. If he is scum, he will have distanced himself enough from who he wanted while closing with town. If he is town, he played a bad method of coming to reads, was not active enough in the game, and chose his prospects poorly. You could have jumped on me, Belisarius, and I would have understood. But in either case, I feel he got caught between two targets that town wanted, so we will be revisiting those options pretty quickly tomorrow, with fewer leads than we might hope to have.

[Not_Mafia]

I feel like Madonna is narrating this game more than she is actually scumhunting

[Madonna]

Work on bettering your game before your criticize mine, Not_Mafia. Your most active and contributive posts were in relation to defending/whiteknighting BlueBloodedToffee against Thor665 shortly after changing your tune on your RNG play.

[Belisarius]

Consider this intent then - and claim next time you're here.

A final reads post would be nice also.

Et Tu, Brute?

Then fall, Caesar!

I'm a VT.

Lynch Tricks tomorrow, and if he flips scum, disregard my scumread on Madonna.

I have no idea who would be the most likely scumbuddy for Tricks. Maybe N_M?

[Belisarius]

Added note: I think hammering me instead of going for another flashwagon and claim is more likely coming from townThor than scum, but I'm less sure of that

[Thor665]

It's more 'bored and frustrated Thor' really.

I really don't see Tricks as scum right now, he's being terrible but it's a very generic and undirected terrible - I would tend to expect a scum him to have a goal. He doesn't seem to know which way he's going, so why do you think he's scum? Especially with some of the other options out there? Like, i think Not_Mafia looks worse, and frankly probably so does BBT and maybe even Madonna. What am i missing here?

[Madonna]

Look, Belisarius, I know I am voting Tr1ckter and definitely hold no love for him, but asserting his death will clear mine (and will the inverse also be true?) is silly. I am well aware we may just be two town bickering and scum are just letting us or encouraging it. There is little for it, though, if Tr1ckster finds he must chase me.

[Tr1ckster]

Look, Belisarius, I know I am voting Tr1ckter and definitely hold no love for him, but asserting his death will clear mine (and will the inverse also be true?) is silly. I am well aware we may just be two town bickering and scum are just letting us or encouraging it. There is little for it, though, if Tr1ckster finds he must chase me.

In other words...

Your vote for me is an OMGUS one?

Ah, sorry. Here. Let's try to work together, shall we?

Who is your biggest scum read at the moment?

[Not_Mafia]

I was taking a look at JasonWazza (the original person in the Beli slot) and he was posting elsewhere on the forums, including in games at the time this game started. I know there are players that systematically replace out or flake if they draw the alignment they dislike, does anyone know JasonWazza to be one of those players? I've had a quick look through his profile but not found anything to indicate anything either way

I've played with Luca as both alignments and he was very active in both, his last post indicates computer issues.

[Not_Mafia]

I don't see how you got that Madonna was saying she was OMGUS voting you out of that Trickster

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 1.17

Belisarius (4):

Aquanim, Knell, Tr1ckster, theelkspeaks

Madonna (2):

Not_Mafia, BlueBloodedToffee

Tr1ckster (2):

Belisarius, Madonna

BlueBloodedToffee (1):

Thor665

No Vote (0):

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Friday, May 2, at 9:00 AM CDT, which is in (expired on 2014-05-02 09:00:00).

[Thor665]

In this topic a lot of people aren't paying attention to the guy I'm likely to hammer when I'm done questioning him.

So I hope and trust all of you are 100% happy with all the info on him at this juncture.

[Tr1ckster]

I don't see how you got that Madonna was saying she was OMGUS voting you out of that Trickster

Look, Belisarius, I know I am voting Tr1ckter and definitely hold no love for him,[/b] but asserting his death will clear mine (and will the inverse also be true?) is silly. I am well aware we may just be two town bickering and scum are just letting us[/b] or encouraging it.

There is little for it, though, if Tr1ckster finds he must chase me.

The bolded parts. Unless I'm reading that wrong?

I read the first bolded part as "we might just be two townies fighting"
the second as "but i'm not going to unvote unless he backs off and leaves me alone"

PEdit:

Yes, Thor. I'm pretty happy. You're clear to hammer.

[Knell]

I'm not totally happy with this. But I rarely am. Good with a strong town read on Tr1ckster.And more information than I could ever want. The interactions around Beli are a little bare though.

I'd like if he gave a reads list. Because, I don't think I've out right stated it, but I do rely on other player's interpretations and opinions to direct my attention some. If he's town it should help as a resource later.

[Tr1ckster]

I'd like if he gave a reads list. Because, I don't think I've out right stated it, but I do rely on other player's interpretations and opinions to direct my attention some. If he's town it should help as a resource later.

Agreed. But I don't think he plans to give a reads list.

[Not_Mafia]

If it must be him I want a reads list first, I won't be surprised whatever he flips, but if he does flip town we're pretty much at square one day 2, I know it won't change my reads except for maybe my read on Madonna, which #761 is kinda making me do anyway