Touhou UPick 2 - [Game Over]

[Varsoon]

Yes.

[Sakura Hana]

Yes.

And guys, this is the reason why we shouldn't listen to Varsoon.

I've already made my town case on notscience, anyone that wants to disprove it with anything else other than "meta is dumb" feel free to, if you push it without trying to disprove it i'll take it as a scum claim and i'll kill you right on the spot. We can start with Victor who is the only non conf town in the wagon (Not counting GiF because his vote isn't supposed to be there)

[Varsoon]

I hate that every town game I get into, people convince everyone I'm not worth listening to.

[zMuffinMan]

So are we just a GiF replacement away from being back to a full roster?

hey vicky (can i call you vicky?)

2003

Why are you so quick to dismiss my thinking?

because it's really bad?

because i like my eyes the way they are and want to prevent eye cancer?

because i like my eyes the way they are and don't want to have to claw them out of my skull with my bare hands?

because i like my sanity the way it is and don't want to spend the rest of my days driven mad, curled up in a ball in the corner repeating to myself, "how could anyone possibly think that? it just doesn't make any sense!"

i mean, there's a long list of reasons. pick one

[Nachomamma8]

Varsoon, I think you're worth listening to!

[zMuffinMan]

LAL

[Varsoon]

Varsoon, I think you're worth listening to!

Yattai~
Wanna discuss this game?


@Muffin: It's okay if I'm beyond your scope.

[Varsoon]

Sakura: You keep saying you would shoot someone (mostly me, ), but can you actually do that? Like, is that an actual, literal thing you can do?
Also, plans for your copping ability? I assume this time you're not going to telegraph it unless you absolutely have to. I forgot how the daycard worked. :p

[Varsoon]

Like, did you claim vig and I never saw it?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.15

GuyInFreezer [4] - notscience, Magua, zMuffinMan, Kagami
notscience [4] - vezokpiraka, Varsoon, VictorDeAngelo, GuyInFreezer
Varsoon [1] -

GuyInFreezer

SXTLHGaiden [1] - GuyInFreezer
VictorDeAngelo [1] -

GuyInFreezer

Magua [1] - GuyInFreezer
Pim [1] - GuyInFreezer
Sakura Hana [1] - GuyInFreezer
zMuffinMan [1] - GuyInFreezer
Kagami [1] - GuyInFreezer
Nachomamma8 [1] - GuyInFreezer
vezokpiraka [1] - GuyInFreezer

Not Voting [4]

- SXTLHGaiden Sakura Hana Nachomamma8 Pim

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch

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Deadline is May 8, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-05-08 13:00:00)

[Varsoon]

I wonder why people are still voting for GiF.

[zMuffinMan]

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[Varsoon]

Then why not unvote?
It's a role-madness game, there could be some crazy card that shifts all the votes to one player or something.
You don't know.

[zMuffinMan]

if that were to happen then it wouldn't matter whether or not i unvote, plus i'm not particularly worried about something like that happening to gif anyway

[Varsoon]

I meant something like a vote re-arranger.
On the real, though, keeping a vote parked for placeholder instead of just unvoting? Doesn't make sense.
Let your vote represent your thoughts.
Do you still think GiF is scum?

[zMuffinMan]

On the real, though, keeping a vote parked for placeholder instead of just unvoting? Doesn't make sense

for all intents and purposes, there is no practical difference here

Do you still think GiF is scum?

i wasn't even all that convinced he was scum when i voted him, but if he is scum, i didn't want him having the ability to make himself unlynchable in later days

[Varsoon]

But can't he recycle cards?

[zMuffinMan]

yes

[Sakura Hana]

Sakura: You keep saying you would shoot someone (mostly me, ), but can you actually do that? Like, is that an actual, literal thing you can do?
Also, plans for your copping ability? I assume this time you're not going to telegraph it unless you absolutely have to. I forgot how the daycard worked. :p

to be exact i have alignment scans, kills and protects, tho i can only use one per full day phase (day/night) alignment scan is delayed until next day, and protect happens at night. All X-Shot not going to say how many but i'll say that i still got more alignment scans (I also have to state it in the thread). The reason i'm saying this is because at this point i think going for an alignment scan when there's even greater chance of scum killing me to silence me before i out my result is high, so i'm wondering about what to do wrt the other 2, my original plan was to protect ns, but a GiF kill if he tries to live by making himself unlynchable or unvotable or whatever he says he can do is another good option, if he's town he can town it up and not get lynched without the need to use spellcards.

protect me pls <3

I wanna wait because i might need to kill GiF, and as I said i can only do either protect or kill (or alignment inspect but if i die there's no info there).

Here's where i'm standing at regarding my abilities:
Scan: If i die it's pointless.
Protect: Even if I die at least i'm making certain that a person doesn't die.
Kill: We get their alignment... but they pay a heavy price.

[Kagami]

But can't he recycle cards?

He already used his recycle to get bulletproof back which he then used for tonight. There's pretty much no reason at all that scum-GIF wouldn't recycle the unvotable card and save it.

Dayvig today. Protect is silly.

ns is town. Sakura's analysis is spot on.

My lynchpool is still the same, but we should probably dayvig anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

Well i didnt want to use my kill so soon for reasons that you will see, but then again... i never said it was a daykill i always mentioned it as a kill.

Miracle Mallet - Night kill: VictorDeAngelo

Varsoon you better enjoy your last momments with your neighbor.
Btw this kill can't be stopped unless im lynched today, and i still got more shots for it.

Reason for picking Victor over my other scumreads, this removes the need for people to vote him and get him lynched with his vote freezing mechanics and then can use and move around their votes elsewhere.

[Varsoon]

Fine, don't listen to Varsoon, whatever.

Spoiler:

Victor and I are also in a neighborhood together. While not confirmed, I'm pretty damn sure Victor is town based on interaction with him and Feirei (the slot he replaced).

90%. He's been genuine in our QT, shared role information that he wouldn't share if he was scum, and we have role synergy that wouldn't make much sense across the alignment divide

did this happen pregame or N1? who initiated this?

I'm sticking with my vote on NS. I feel like the pie/NS case (reeks of pie in 1626) is pushing

too hard on setup spec

and presenting GiF as slippery. It's a big wall, but it feels

conf-biased

and

too willing to hit unreliable notes that'll ring well with this town's meta with GiF and Notsci

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you think notscience is scummy because he's pushing/agrees with a case pieguy wrote?

D1, I hard-read my neighbor as town despite Feirei not talking in our QT at all pregame.
N1, Victor and I had a pretty good back and forth about our reads, abilities, the game state, etc.
I initiated.

I think NS is scummy because of the bolded in the quote made. His push relies too much on setup spec, unreliable levels of PoE, meta-posturing, and presenting a dead-townie's case as something infallible. Like dead townies can't be wrong, or like his case is somehow more true/important now that he's a dead/confirmed townie. If it's down to a 1v1, then I'd rather go with NS over GiF.

@sakura, id like a feirei scan also if you will. Still like muffin scan too though.

Don't waste your time with a FeiRei scan.
FeiRei is town.

Yeah, Feirei shouldn't be today's lynch regardless.
However, Feirei is town, so don't lynch/vig.

Prodded Varsoon.

Ouch.
Feirei's town.

One of {Feirei/Varsoon} - Y'know, why can't we both be town? We've got a neighborhood together, actually. We've got abilities we're both immune to. I'm town. Feirei feels pretty damn town, too.

[Varsoon]

At the very least, now I know you weren't responsible for either of the deaths last night. :l

[VictorDeAngelo]

Meh, at least now there's no distractions from lynching notscience I guess.

@Mod

- NS hasn't posted in forever. Is he due a prod/replacement yet?

[Varsoon]

Sorry, man. I tried to keep you in this.
Now you're in a good position though. Share your reads, push your cases, get active! You could help us win this.
Remember: You're not dead yet.