In post 790, theelkspeaks wrote:Thor, care to explain why you're "bored and frustrated"? I'd think a 32 page D1 is exciting with lots of chances for town to get reads, not boring unless you're an impatient scum eager for a quick mislynch.
Are you serious?
Look....um, it's not necessarily a good thing we have 32 pages. Frankly, from my side, it's a bad thing. i also think that 32 pages took us from a decent lynch to a 'meh' lynch that is now enforced by deadline and people being...I dunno, really happy with lynching a 'meh' lynch. We also have people scumming up the thread five ways to Sunday by either being scum or really awkward Newbs and I'm left the job of trying to sort that, and that bores me sometimes because I've done it a dozen times before, and it never gets easier but is still all the same old motions and half the time the newbs fight you regardless of their alignment because they don't even understand what's going on.
Then you also have the people like you, and I probably toss Aquanim in to this group as well, who are *oh so excited* that we've "used all the time" never even paying attention to how town reads are eroding and it's just making the thread a longer soup for people to search through for any posts of valid purpose.
That's why I'm bored and frustrated.
In post 804, Zaicon wrote:So apparently I'm not going to be here at deadline. Which means... I'm extending deadline by 5 hours.
Too bad, i came on to hammer because I wouldn't be - and though I might be back prior to deadline, I'm an impatient guy.
STOP!
Mjolnir time!
Vote: Bellisarius
I feel slightly good about it because of how wimp sack his final reads went. But, frankly, I give him better odds of flipping town than flipping scum.
Okay, I'll admit tomorrow I'd like to see possibly one of my bigger scumspects flipped, but let's walk through this really quick in case I'm not around even though I hate to provide these thoughts to scum.
If Belli does flip scum then pay attention to the first few people who talked him up (I'm far too lazy to look) the first two have a higher than average chance to be town. I'd also say that in that situation BBT is also probably town as is Madonna if neither of them were the two initial pushers. Lynch/investigate from the remainder.
If Belli flips town, then the question becomes 'is BBT or Madonna also town' Both of them were alternate wagon choices, so it begs the question of why scum would fire up a wagon on Belli. The suspects in this instance are actually not so much the wagon starters (since scum have debatable reason to start a new wagon) but people who were voting a big wagon, and then as the Belli one grew moved off it to support the Belli one. Some of this is affected by timing - pay attention to which wagon started first (again, too lazy t look) between Madonna and Belli, and who moved their votes around between which wagons. If Belli is town and is the first counterwagon, then the wagon starters are more suspect and BBT is a more reasonable lynch option - if he was the third counterwagon (which is my recollection) then the people who started the push are probably town, but scum was happy enough to hop on later.
That's my quick blurb.
Pay attention to the death and who said what when picking any night actions.
Docs should aim for strong town reads.
Trackers should aim for scummy reads and remember if Belli is scum and your target goes nowhere then the target is confirmed town.
Cops should aim for hard to read reads.
Jailkeepers should aim for strong town in my opinion, there's an argument for aiming for scum, but I think it's a dumb move at this juncture unless Belli flips scum in which case you become a Cop too.
Bullet Proof players should have aimed to look hyper townie.
