In post 2089, Shadoweh wrote:How do you think kayne/LLD reactions here compare to Scummies Invitational 2012 where they were scum together? Specifically, kayne deciding to throw out suspicion on her early for little reasoning vs deciding to hard buddy her because he could?
You come to the conclusion that he 'wasn't comfortable with Shadoweh being read as town' and conclude that means we could be scum together? Why would he want people to read me as scum if we were scum together? Also I know you already read Fall of Gondolin, so if you'd like to argue that I nightkilled the highest profile player defending me who was also Sixty please go ahead. I think you'll find kayne was throwing out alot of opinions that make sense but don't tell much about the person's alignment at the time. (Things like 'this blue thing is null' and 'Shadoweh probably didn't kill Sixty' might as well be statements of fact.) Also in my defense early Day 2 really was quite boring and no one was talking.
I am not saying he wants other people to read you as scum but rather seemed to always have you in his null/scum pile even when others townread you. It is possible that if you flipped scum, he'd want to look good which he probably might if for instance Nacho townreads you and he claims it is null, and then people go back and see that he was right. I'll admit I am essentially speculating about his motivations here which is why I am not going beyond saying that it is possible for you to be scum together.
I didn't read Scummies Invitational but I might at some point so I'll get back to you on it.
In post 2089, Shadoweh wrote:I think you're making it sound like I was more opposed then I was, which wasn't really alot. I thought TH was a better wagon at the time (he might still be tbh) and after Reck made clear he wasn't claiming a guilty I didn't see kayne's wagon going anywhere. There was no momentum behind it. Presumably because he was scum, but hindsight etc. I'm still surprised yesterday went like it did. It shall be called The Day 16 People Screamed TAMMY in Unison.
Geez most of your wall is you not being sure on anything. >_> So question, do you think there was only one scum who got on quick enough to bus Kayne and you think that scum was Tim Howard? Honest question since you're clearing p much everyone else on his wagon.
I'm pretty sure about the people I said are extremely unlikely to be scum. It is easier to clear people through interaction analysis and POE than to condemn them unless something sticks out really glaringly.
Let's look at the wagon: Plessiez (flipped town), Zdenek (obvtown, I don't think you disagree), Tim Howard (Not sure), Plum (Probably town and I explained why although I am looking at an older scumgame of her to verify her bussing tendencies), FA (we know we are town), Nero Cain (counterwagon, and I explained why I didn't think it was scum v scum, and he felt town anyways), NS (I talked about how his thought processes are consistent. Admittedly, I am not massively confident in this), and Cerulean (again obvtown). So, where's the scum? If someone bussed, it is probably among Tim, Plum, and NS. Tell me where you disagree.
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