In post 811, Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: In post 764, Billi bilaði wrote:I didn't say "history together". Jake has super experience on this site as Jake, and more if you take into account that he is an alt.
You both have wiki pages, and I don't believe he hasn't studied yours.
That would tell him "DDD must not live to endgame" if he is the mafioso.
Zeph is not a wise kill for him, and I found a game where you do such a kill (albeit for a different reason from what I was thinking).
If you are townie, them, I would believe that jklash12 would be more likely to let you live, as he has a shorter history here.
You are playing a much stronger game than Jake imo, and I've skimmed a game where Jake plays just like he does here as a mafioso just about to be hanged. But I have myself played just as strongly as you have in games where I know the players as well as you might know Jake and jklash12, and talked myself to victory. Hence my super suspicion of you.
See, you're making assumptions again; for example, I know of Jake, I know we've played together a time, maybe two but I haven't ever looked at his wiki or bothered to run a big meta on him. I think it's even less likely that he's done the same for me. So the "must kill DDD" theory you've pressed isn't sound. And the Zeph kill was perfectly sound for him in several possible ways including that it makes you freak out about why I'm not dead and I've already explained why it doesn't make sense for scum me to kill him.
Bb: Maybe you saw how I resolved those assumptions? And where my vote still remains? (I find it very strange that you two haven't read each other, especially when I've read comments from you in some old games about people not being too careful about their IC.) So, you never, ever, ever assume anything in these games?
Yup, it freaked me out, but still I didn't vote you, but analysed and asked questions until I felt satisfied about it. Maybe it would have been better to just lay low?
And yes, I've played a strong game but I don't see why my confidence in myself is in anyway a scum trait; I believe I can talk myself to victory as either alignment and if you look into my history you can see cases where I get to talk to people one on one as town and persuade them of the truth. I mean the whole thing you're raising is nothing but a
burden of proficiency fallacy
Bb: So, never be suspicious of people who play a strong game? If I do, then I'm doing all the wrong things with assumptions and proficiencies and whatnots? (I tried to read up on WIFOM, but I still don't understand it fully.)
Basically, I don't care if I fall into all those pits, as long as I enjoy playing, and have a decent win-loss rate.
(Maybe your problem with this is just that I openly talk about my thoughs, instead of just hiding them, and then create a silly little case at the end when I cast my vote?)
As stupidly itchy as it is. Look, if there's ten minutes left in the day you have my permission to mislynch me but until we get to that point where the only other option is no lynch it is infinitely more important to do that right thing than the fast thing. The next time the urge to do something paranoid and rash hits you, think of the horror of a Jake, jklash, DTD endgame because that's the likely end result of your impulse.
Bb: I have a boy who is regularly telling me how bad my jokes are. I can just imagine how much worse they are in a second language. But, if I had fallen for my urges, then we would just have had a short and sweet day, with little arguments, and only two to choose from on the final day. (So, you think I've done the "fast thing" at any time this game?)
You have your ways to draw information out of people. I have mine. Yours must work well on some people, but not all. Mine maybe on different people, but not all. I'll keep playing as I have a mind too. It's the only mind I've got.
Final thing, apparently you're insisting on this big meta evaluation and I made a big meta statement that as scum I almost never bus and basically never on day one because it always fails. Is there any evidence that I didn't make a true statement when I said that? And since it is a true statement, what possible justification could there be for me violating that fundamental tenant of my gameplay? Spoiler alert, there is none and as such my play doesn't make any sense as scum and thus I am town.
Bb: I think I've answered this here above. I bought your "almost never bus" statement hook and line (but not sinker) when you first pointed it out. I even read up on all of you 3 during better part of the weekend, and I still haven't moved my vote. But, me believing that jklash12 is the least likely of you 3 could mean that it would be better to just hammer you, to not have to prolong the day with a replacement situation, and then take out Jake tomorrow. Your desire to string us along instead of admitting that we might make a decent decision on the final day doesn't sit too well with me. That is just my character, and I have to live with that.
