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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 12:07 pm

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In post 2273, xRECKONERx wrote:That's not how this game works.
Well school me then.

I mean, I have a group of players that I think are town and then players that I don't find town. I'm pretty sure that is how POE works. More specifically, I don't think you've done much this game and are just coasting.

So why should I read you as town?
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 12:22 pm

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LLD remains the correct choice. Would vote Venmar to prevent no-lynch.
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 12:23 pm

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Content is neato, and currently boils down to "gee whiz nothing of much interest has happened in since the site came back up neat!"
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 12:26 pm

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I have a few things I want to look into and discuss with Tammy before ending the day. I'd prefer to lynch LLD over Venmar although I am scumreading both of them but I don't want to vote just yet and let Venmar hammer just in case. I'd much rather be the hammer at a time I'm comfortable with.
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 12:32 pm

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Day 3, VC 11
Lady Lambdadelta - (5)
chamber, Untrod Tripod, Tim Howard, xRECKONERx, Zdenek
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Venmar, Lady Lambdadelta

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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 4:53 pm

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In post 2278, Flipping Awesome wrote:I have a few things I want to look into and discuss with Tammy before ending the day. I'd prefer to lynch LLD over Venmar although I am scumreading both of them but I don't want to vote just yet and let Venmar hammer just in case. I'd much rather be the hammer at a time I'm comfortable with.
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 4:59 pm

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In post 2274, chamber wrote:I need to work with someone to actually get re-motivated for this game. HELP!

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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 5:03 pm

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In post 2266, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:As of this moment, I would throw up Flipping Awesome and UT.

And I bet you any money FA will vote me for saying that, but IDGAF. I think he's scum.
Those are two of my strongest town reads.
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 5:17 pm

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In post 2252, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 2247, xRECKONERx wrote:hey you should all listen to my radio show tonight FREE FUCKIN ADVERTISING F YEAH

http://www.mixlr.com/reckonerX
So I listened to The Best song Ever and I'm encouraging a boycott oof this. Would not play at Fantasy Camp.

So I'm remembering why I was not wanting to post in here before and us very quickly running the deadline down to nothhing while doing nothing makes me extra wary of this LLD lynch. I don't remember how I felt about Venmar but he's at the same level yet doesn't seem to have any support to go further? I kind of think today is just going to be a wash anyways, thx mafiascum.net. Honestly the main thing turning me off is how similar LLD's voters are to kayne's. (including my own vote. Which makes me wonder who the fuck im listening to that's wrong.)

This isn't particularily helpful gamewise but I'm trying out this posting in the thread thing to shake off this paranoia about postin in the thread about my doubts. Tammy plz get better and also tell me who I should be voting since ur a much better mafia player then Empire!
Apparently he recognizes that too! I feel like I'm in the wire all over again when he left me high and dry. ANYWAYS last time we talked because LLD was his big town read, he said that read had gone stale and I tried to fill him in on what had happened before ms went kablooey, he still agreed with me that ut was a strong town read and was like has venmar been lynched yet? I'm not even sure why he's so certain venmar is scum anymore. I do know you sort off clear it up but I'm still confused over the these voters are the same as kanye voters I'm being led astray thing, what do you mean?
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 5:18 pm

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In post 2251, Flipping Awesome wrote: And I hope you get well soon, Tammy.
Thank you. Me too!
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 7:05 pm

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Falcon - I love being called awesome just for finishing a wall! I'll comment on more of it later probably when I have a chance to go back and read through yesterday again, which won't happen tonight, but you asked what I thought about Plum and her case on UT. While I think it's wrong, I can see where she's coming from. I thought that her whole "look at this guy" thing looked townish. I guess the case making is kinda surprising as she was reluctant to make a case in attack on titan, but the presentation reminded me of camn in the wire with her "dear town" way of trying to get someone lynched. My first impression of Plum is that she's a bit more subtle as scum than as town. Also, I got the impression she was town for ~reasons~ anyway.
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 9:12 pm

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@ Tammy, I mostly wanted to discuss your read on Reck after I go through a few of his games, that's why I didn't want to end the day. I haven't finished checking them out yet so I'll post some of my thoughts once I do that which is probably going to be tomorrow. What's your best guess at a scumteam at this point? Also, do you and Empire have any thoughts about NS? I remember reading a game where Empire figured out NS pretty quickly and I am wondering what he thought of his play here before he left.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Fri May 30, 2014 11:56 pm

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In post 2283, Cerulean wrote: Apparently he recognizes that too! I feel like I'm in the wire all over again when he left me high and dry. ANYWAYS last time we talked because LLD was his big town read, he said that read had gone stale and I tried to fill him in on what had happened before ms went kablooey, he still agreed with me that ut was a strong town read and was like has venmar been lynched yet? I'm not even sure why he's so certain venmar is scum anymore. I do know you sort off clear it up but I'm still confused over the these voters are the same as kanye voters I'm being led astray thing, what do you mean?
Tammy. >:T I don't like answering the same question twice, I gave an answer to this earlier. But you think Reck, chamber and UT are all town right? I guess the core of it is I don't trust Reckoner. Do you think lynching LLD over Venmar would be a good idea at this point? That's the attitude where things are headed.
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 12:19 am

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Nero instead of Venmar.
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 12:58 am

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Day 3, VC 12
Lady Lambdadelta - (5)
chamber, Untrod Tripod, Tim Howard, xRECKONERx, Zdenek
Venmar - (4)
Cerulean,
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Untrod Tripod - (2)
Venmar, Lady Lambdadelta

Not voting - (2):
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Deadline for Day 1:
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Venmar will be lynched with 6 votes this day phase.

I'll give Plum another 24 hours to pick her prod up since I know she's v/la on Saturday.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 2:22 am

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In post 2288, chamber wrote:Nero instead of Venmar.
We aren't lynchingg Nero anytime soon, chamber. <_< I know it's been awhile but he was still the counterwagon to scum.
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 2:26 am

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I still think the game only really makes sense if he is scum, and I doubt Venmar and him are scum together.
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 6:22 am

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Will switch to LLD to avoid nolynch, but Venmar is far scummier.
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 7:51 am

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In post 2291, chamber wrote:I still think the game only really makes sense if he is scum
I would love to hear this.
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 8:58 am

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In post 2287, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 2283, Cerulean wrote: Apparently he recognizes that too! I feel like I'm in the wire all over again when he left me high and dry. ANYWAYS last time we talked because LLD was his big town read, he said that read had gone stale and I tried to fill him in on what had happened before ms went kablooey, he still agreed with me that ut was a strong town read and was like has venmar been lynched yet? I'm not even sure why he's so certain venmar is scum anymore. I do know you sort off clear it up but I'm still confused over the these voters are the same as kanye voters I'm being led astray thing, what do you mean?
Tammy. >:T I don't like answering the same question twice, I gave an answer to this earlier. But you think Reck, chamber and UT are all town right? I guess the core of it is I don't trust Reckoner. Do you think lynching LLD over Venmar would be a good idea at this point? That's the attitude where things are headed.
Well I don't want you to answer it in the same way! You're original answer didn't clear up my confusion, which is why I said I'm still confused. I literally have no clue what you mean by the LLD voters being the same as the kanye voters and you're wondering who's leading you astray. Explain it to me like I'm five? And dumb? And sick? And on medication? And extremely foggy and tired?

I'm still working on mulling over the LLD/Venmar thing. I talked to Empire last week about it, and while he agreed that what she said of her meta is consistent he also agreed with me that the problematic part is using it while being absent. My main problem is that if you're going to say you weren't around because of outside factors, then you can't appeal to your meta. I don't know if that makes sense, but it does in my head. He said he was fine with a vote move if I decided it that way since his early town read came from the way that she claimed her role and had largely dissipated after.
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:05 am

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In post 2287, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 2283, Cerulean wrote: Apparently he recognizes that too! I feel like I'm in the wire all over again when he left me high and dry. ANYWAYS last time we talked because LLD was his big town read, he said that read had gone stale and I tried to fill him in on what had happened before ms went kablooey, he still agreed with me that ut was a strong town read and was like has venmar been lynched yet? I'm not even sure why he's so certain venmar is scum anymore. I do know you sort off clear it up but I'm still confused over the these voters are the same as kanye voters I'm being led astray thing, what do you mean?
Tammy. >:T I don't like answering the same question twice, I gave an answer to this earlier. But you think Reck, chamber and UT are all town right? I guess the core of it is I don't trust Reckoner. Do you think lynching LLD over Venmar would be a good idea at this point? That's the attitude where things are headed.
Oh forgot to answer your other question. I think that UT and chamber are town. Reck is a weak town read. There are some posts of his that I just really like, but I wouldn't bet the game on him being town.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:05 am

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In post 2294, Cerulean wrote:
In post 2287, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 2283, Cerulean wrote: Apparently he recognizes that too! I feel like I'm in the wire all over again when he left me high and dry. ANYWAYS last time we talked because LLD was his big town read, he said that read had gone stale and I tried to fill him in on what had happened before ms went kablooey, he still agreed with me that ut was a strong town read and was like has venmar been lynched yet? I'm not even sure why he's so certain venmar is scum anymore. I do know you sort off clear it up but I'm still confused over the these voters are the same as kanye voters I'm being led astray thing, what do you mean?
Tammy. >:T I don't like answering the same question twice, I gave an answer to this earlier. But you think Reck, chamber and UT are all town right? I guess the core of it is I don't trust Reckoner. Do you think lynching LLD over Venmar would be a good idea at this point? That's the attitude where things are headed.
Well I don't want you to answer it in the same way! You're original answer didn't clear up my confusion, which is why I said I'm still confused. I literally have no clue what you mean by the LLD voters being the same as the kanye voters and you're wondering who's leading you astray. Explain it to me like I'm five? And dumb? And sick? And on medication? And extremely foggy and tired?

I'm still working on mulling over the LLD/Venmar thing. I talked to Empire last week about it, and while he agreed that what she said of her meta is consistent he also agreed with me that the problematic part is using it while being absent. My main problem is that if you're going to say you weren't around because of outside factors, then you can't appeal to your meta. I don't know if that makes sense, but it does in my head. He said he was fine with a vote move if I decided it that way since his early town read came from the way that she claimed her role and had largely dissipated after.
This is super fucking sketchy. I think you're town because of your kanye vote. Start fucking acting like it.

Like if Empire allows you to be on my lynch today, he never gets to pretend he can read me ever again. I will shit talk him endlessly~.
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:08 am

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I really don't want to have to vote Venmar, but people are already making plans for nothing changing today, because people don't want to get out of apathy.

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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:12 am

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In post 2286, Flipping Awesome wrote:@ Tammy, I mostly wanted to discuss your read on Reck after I go through a few of his games, that's why I didn't want to end the day. I haven't finished checking them out yet so I'll post some of my thoughts once I do that which is probably going to be tomorrow. What's your best guess at a scumteam at this point? Also, do you and Empire have any thoughts about NS? I remember reading a game where Empire figured out NS pretty quickly and I am wondering what he thought of his play here before he left.
I find NS extraordinarily hard to read. I think the only time I got his alignment right was in NY142, and that was largely how he behaved in lylo along with MoI being extremely manipulative in the neighborhood, which helped me get it right. Before that point, I'd thought NS was scum, and in yoloville, which is the game you're thinking about, I also tried to get him lynched when he was town. Empire hasn't given me any thoughts on NS, I think the last time he said anything about him was that he was in his poe pool? I dunno, empire hasn't responded to any of my posts today, and he typically goes out of town on the weekends, so he might be in transit or just out?

Anyway, unless he is a big buser, I'm not sure he'd come back and put his partner at L-1. We were partnered in kanye's water world game, but I can't remember if he bussed or not.

That's a lot to say I just don't know.
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2014 9:16 am

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VOTE: LLD

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