NY 173: Knight-Errant 2 - GAME OVER!

[Titus]

GreyICE

, Turkish Van, jbomber732,

Antihero, Lords of the Unreal, beastcharizard, MonkeyMan576, MafiaSSK, Hopkirk, Twisted Advice

If there was bussing at all on the day one wagon, it must be TV, jbomber

Major counterwagon

Bicephalous Bob (3)

-

PeregrineV, mnemonicdevice,

Katarina LeBlanc

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Hopkirk (8) - beastcharizard, Antihero, Twisted Advice, Metal Sonic,

Katarina LeBlanc, Turkish Van,

Bicephalous Bob, Lords of the Unreal

That looks really bad for TV.

Aj The Epic (2) - notscience, jbomber732

Jbomber is on confirmed town wagon, but so is Cho's slot.

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Lemniscate (6) - Kublai Khan,

Twisted Advice,

zMuffinMan, Cho, jbomber732,

Antihero

This wagon doesn't tell us as much, but a policy lynch when TV was being discussed..

[Antihero]

i'd lynch:
titus, Khan, zmuffinman, TV

so... pretty much anybody

[Marquis]

policy lynch when TV was being discussed

Vote for Turkish Van.

Antihero, vote for Turkish Van.

I don't want scum to shut this wagon down before it even gets anywhere.

[Antihero]

VOTE: Turkish Van

alsoalsoalso

there's a 50% chance of a godfather

[Marquis]

I'm at the point where I can feel a town win close by. This reminds me of the last K-E.

Antihero, please rein me in if I start getting too crazy.

07. M God, T Cop, M RB, T RB
18. M E-Watch, T RB, M RB, T Cop
41. T RB, M RB, T Cop, M E-Watch
44. M God, T RB, M RB, T Cop

[Marquis]

Oh, I thought you were wrong. I only saw the first Mafia Godfather name and not the last.

I know what you're implying though and I feel like I would have played more fearlessly and less quietly if I was Mafia Godfather.

[Antihero]

i'm actually feeling a pretty strong impulse to lynch zmuffinman

[Antihero]

marquis, your new avatar is broken....

[The Knight-Errant]

Marquis "replaces" Cho.

[Marquis]

[The Knight-Errant]

Vote Count 5.01

Turkish Van (2) - Marquis, Antihero

Not Voting (5) - Titus, Turkish Van, Kublai Khan, jbomber732, zMuffinMan

7 alive, 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 5th, 12:00 p.m. PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-07-05 12:00:00)

[Turkish Van]

OK, catching up here after being absurdly absent and being a horrible hydra partner. BUT.

For anyone being purely idiotic enough to think that we're scum of any flavor:

If we were Mafia, there is zero chance I'd have let us bus Day One. No, I don't care if Guzame was running around in a sandwich board claiming to be the scummiest scum who ever scummed. I don't bus, and I don't let my hydra partners bus. And quite frankly, impolite as it might be to say, in this hydra when I'm not off fucking up my personal life, I'm the one approving the votes and such.

If we were the SK, there is zero chance I'd have had us kill PeregrineV Night One. I'd have kept him around forever and ever given past evidence that I can play him as per NY 164. SK-me would consider his presence in the game to be a gift from on high. Not someone to be killed out the gate, sheesh.

Titus, you had a question for me I think. I'll go rummage that up, then figure out what the hell's been going on since I last actually analyzed anything and didn't just string Mala along with promises of getting my head back in the game.

--PA

P-edit: Antihero, don't be an idiot. You should know my game by now enough to know that all of the above is 100% true and that I'm town here even if I am being a complete waste of space the last couple game days. And sadly we don't have time to lynch wastes of space today. We need to find scum. Ideally the SK, since that gives us a fighting chance to take out the Mafia with back-to-back lynches; second choice Mafia to hope that scum then cross-kill and give us a chance to have a XyLo choice.

[Turkish Van]

Looking at the flips, that we got 50% of the Mafia before Day Two and none of them since then indicates that something seriously wacky is going on with the scum hunting here. I don't have a good sense of the game rhythm here, but it seems very likely that we have groupscum directing a lot of the scum hunting somehow. I'll be looking for that in my reread.

First posts of Day 3. I think their target died or something.

Heh, am I actually paying more attention than you? TA was blocked by Metal Sonic N2.

So it's been a while since I've played with AJ, but I think he's the one who claimed cop as Mafia traitor in NY 161 and got two townies lynched for the eventual win. That kind of attitude implies to me that if he thought he was near a lynch he wouldn't be claiming VT. Scum's down a PR, and town is at full strength. Mafia should be able to track the possible knight jumps that could connect their two PRs. (like if they assume their roleblocker is from the upper right corner, the next jump can only go to cop or town BP, and the jump after that has to connect with their second PR; same process with the other roleblocker square) making it worth trying to fish out a claim or brazen it out with a fake PR claim as scum.

Not interested in an AJ lynch any more.

notscience, what's your read on Katarina that you're holding your vote over her head?

VOTE: Hopkirk

Nothing in his posts says town, nothing's changed. Wagon is very likely on scum, and we get good info from it even if I'm wrong.

--PA

Can you explain the rationale behind this post? Is it possible to deduce what scum likely have left here?

I think we have a Mafia BP left. The only way to pull in a Town Cop and a Town Roleblocker with a Mafia Roleblocker is to start at the upper right corner with the Mafia Roleblocker and make the first knight hop to the Town Cop, the second knight hop to the Mafia BP on the third row, right side, and then the last hop to the Town Roleblocker on the bottom.

[Marquis]

You're not SK, you're mafia.

[Marquis]

Bye bye. I'll be back later.

[Antihero]

Looking at the flips, that we got 50% of the Mafia before Day Two and none of them since then indicates that something seriously wacky is going on with the scum hunting here. I don't have a good sense of the game rhythm here, but it seems very likely that we have groupscum directing a lot of the scum hunting somehow. I'll be looking for that in my reread.

khan has a big hand in that, but i don't know if he's scum

zmuffinman played a more subtle role in a it, and i do think he's scum

actually
VOTE: zmuffinman

[Turkish Van]

You're not SK, you're mafia.

:rolls eyes: I have exactly two games here in 75+ where I've bussed a partner. One was Open 459, one of my first games on site, and Day One bussing led to a town romp. The other was Mini 1527 where I was utterly screwed anyways and took a Hail Mary on living another day (and definitely shouldn't have). Get a better working theory, please and thank you.

--PA

P-edit: My take is that the Grey kill N1 was Mafia trying to set up KK and they're still hoping it'll pay off down the line. There was something there actually that made me think he was a mason, but that's obviously outdated now anyways.

I'd like to go back to Grey's reads as well, come to think of it. Some recently finished games have demonstrated the utility of not overlooking the obvious motives for NKing/eliminating people that include 'them having a crapload of reads as accurate.'

[Antihero]

But no seriously, if I'm shot, MafiaSSK, Kublai Khan, Bicephelous Bob, these are three players who need to be dead.

here ya' go mala

you think khan is town? well then grey wasn't killed for his reads.

i think it was a meta kill.

[Antihero]

never mind, looks like you're penguin

sry...

[Turkish Van]

zMuffinMan is burn_209. Burn was kind of borderline scummy IIRC. I'll have to see what zMuffinMan has been doing in the meantime.

Also, what the hell on the set-up? Don't we know by the knight moves that would land on both town cop and roleblocker that we have a Mafia BP as the only option, not a godfather or whatever?

(sorry, I've been leaving all my hydra games to my partners while I sort out my IRL shit and have gotten out of the habit of signing)

--PA

[Antihero]

nah, wait a sec UNVOTE:

~reasons~

[Titus]

Looking at the flips, that we got 50% of the Mafia before Day Two and none of them since then indicates that something seriously wacky is going on with the scum hunting here. I don't have a good sense of the game rhythm here, but it seems very likely that we have groupscum directing a lot of the scum hunting somehow. I'll be looking for that in my reread.

khan has a big hand in that, but i don't know if he's scum

zmuffinman played a more subtle role in a it, and i do think he's scum

actually
VOTE: zmuffinman

That's what I was saying yesterday and it lead me to TA and KK.

TA suddenly winds up dead. I'm not exactly surprised... it suggests KK is the SK or someone wants to frame him.

[Antihero]

That's what I was saying yesterday and it lead me to TA and KK.

TA suddenly winds up dead. I'm not exactly surprised... it suggests KK is the SK or someone wants to frame him.

LOL

naw, i still think it's a shot at the opposite scum faction.

[Turkish Van]

OK, looking at the NKs (because I'm lazy on a Saturday afternoon and would actually rather be napping, not reading 74 pages of posts) we have:

PeregrineV,

Mafia Roleblocker

, was killed Night 1.--this was the SK
GreyICE,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 1.--this was Mafia
beastcharizard,

Town Mason

, was killed Night 2.
Bicephalous Bob,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 2.
Metal Sonic,

Town Roleblocker

, was killed Night 3.--either both Mafia and SK killed him or he blocked one of the parties; has anyone checked who he was likely to have blocked? Given that he was broadcasting being a PR?
Lords of the Unreal,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 4.
Twisted Advice,

Town Cop

, was killed Night 4.

Posting to take a further look...

--PA

[Antihero]

mafia: Titus/jbomber
SK: khan

could this be it?